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  1. I think if 5/$80 would get it done, it would already be done.
    13 points
  2. Look, Maeda is NOT himself right now. He may or may not be the pitcher we saw in 2020. But career numbers and his ST performance and injury would tell you he's going to rebound. Berrios has been a rock, despite some ups and downs. For the 100th time, he's still 27yo plus and is a 2 time All Star. Again, for the 100th time, he and the Twins have changed his work out routine to allow for a full season of endurance and performance. And we haven't seen the results yet after the weird season that 2020 was. He may or may not ever achieve the ACE status that so many wish for. Me included. But despite some very good prospects rising, you can't ignore what you already have. If the Twins don't give him a 4 or 5yr deal for something close to $18-20 per they are being stupid. Someone else will.
    11 points
  3. I promise you, the return for either Buxton or Berrios, no matter what it is, will set this franchise back farther than it propels it forwards.
    7 points
  4. Berrios twirling a timely gem to complement the "It's time to pay Jose Berrios" article that dropped today on TD. Twins front office: Save 5% on your Berrios extension when you enter the Promo Code '55PITCHESTHRU2'!
    6 points
  5. I think the negotiation starts at 5 years, $100M. He’s asking for market rate money and has been more healthy than McCullers with similar numbers. A month back I was more on the Trade Berrios bandwagon, but with the way our rotation has imploded, I am swinging towards keep Berrios, trade Buxton.
    6 points
  6. You do know that Tampa Bay traded away Snell, right. They also lost Morton to free agency. They have the best record in baseball with half the financial resource of many teams. Why. because they understand how to maximize asset return. Boston let's Betts go and many said it was the end of them. They seem to be doing fine to me. Chicago traded away Sale and Eaton because they realized they could not reasonably expect to contend during their tenue. How did that work out? While I would prefer to "dance" with home grown players. I will opt for signing an equivalent outside player if the homegrown player requires a significant overpay. Especially if I can get at top prospect in return. He might flop but he might also be better than Berrios. Now I have two "Berrios equivalent" players for the same price. We could call this the Tampa Bay philosophy.
    6 points
  7. I can’t imagine a worse time to try and extend Berrios after what could be a 90+ loss season. He’s given every indication he’s testing free agency, so this article is 1.5 years too early to talk about.
    6 points
  8. If he will do do it for 5/80 I am on board especially given what they got out of Happ and Shoemaker for 10m this year. He is young durable and with slight improvement a potential All-Star type player or just under for the next four years. He takes good care of his body and takes the ball every 5th day. Why not do what you can to keep him especially with good pitching in short supply. With Maeda messed up he might be the one decent pitcher we can rely on next year and hopefully once the other guys come up we can fill out that rotation with more home grown guys. Unless the ask is absolutely unreasonable they should extend him IMO.
    6 points
  9. Yes, Berrios wants a hefty payday, and no, he isn’t one of the top 10 pitchers in baseball. The three players he’s most closely tied to in this contract situation are Luis Severino, Aaron Nola, and Lance McCullers. The former two got paid prior to the 2019 season. McCullers just got his payday. They are all 27 years old, save for Nola who just recently had a birthday. None of that trio would qualify as top 10 pitchers in the game either. Nola and Severino took four-year deals at $45M and $40M, respectively. McCullers agreed to a five-year deal that starts in 2022 and is for $85M. Jose reportedly wanted something close to what the Phillies and Yankees did for their starters; that isn’t happening now. He’s going to get something closer to what the Astros paid out, and that’s more than a fair valuation. I don’t think Berrios would find a $17M AAV on the open market, but I’d be shocked if he couldn’t get something in the $12-15M range. Really though, this conversation is less about dollars and more about sense. Over the winter Minnesota paid J.A. Happ $8M and Matt Shoemaker $2M both on one-year deals. That $10M has immediately become a sunk cost as both have been downright terrible, and the stability intended for the back of the rotation has been non-existent. I’d have preferred to see the Twins aim higher when rounding out the group, but we’ve seen that troubles there as guys like James Paxton haven’t even thrown a pitch for their new team. I think the point with Berrios is this, you already have a commodity that you know, he should be entering his prime, and there’s never been a question of his durability. Sure, he’s faltered in August and September, but it hasn’t ever been injury related. He’s not an ace, and he may be a borderline number two at times, but it’s fair to say he’s a top-half of the rotation arm that flashes even more when he’s on. The alternative is one of unknown, or one I think we can bet against. Touching again on the unknown, you’re dealing with bargain bin arms hoping that a middle-of-the-road veteran is enough for the sake of stability. Maybe they’re injured, ineffective, or both. The option we can probably bet against is a big ticket purchase. Trevor Bauer made a good deal of sense from a roster construction standpoint, but he was never going to be interested in Minnesota, and the Twins were never going to drop that kind of coin. Nothing precludes the Twins from spending, but top free agents don’t see this as a destination either. Looking ahead to the upcoming offseason, there’s more than a few veteran arms that should hit the market. Plenty of them will be paid handsomely, and some of them may even be interested in talking with the Twins. Giving Jose Berrios something like $80M over the next five years isn’t going to stop any opportunity to engage those arms either. If development continues to happen, you’d hope this rotation has a desire to include Jordan Balazovic and Jhoan Duran as soon as next season. Maybe one of them turns out to be an ace, and maybe neither do. Either way, pitching being a focus, moving on from Berrios solely to pay someone in hopes of replicating his production seems silly. Finding an ace is among the most difficult things to do in baseball. There’s maybe 10 of those guys in the game, most are developed internally, and if they do ever hit the open market Minnesota isn’t the first choice they’ve got on their list. Building a rotation with guys that all have the ability to pitch like an ace on any given night is a much more attainable goal, and both Kenta Maeda and Berrios fit that bill. Beyond there the Twins don’t have answers. Michael Pineda has been a steadying presence, and maybe they bring him back again this winter, but Berrios should be inked into that future as much as anyone. It's easy to spend someone else’s money, and the Pohlad’s have plenty of it, but the thought process runs deeper than that. Plenty of money comes off the books again this winter, and while 2021 has been a disaster, a new opportunity to reload will be in front of Derek Falvey and Thad Levine. Including someone like Berrios as part of that makes more sense than it does finding the next guy discarded from another organization to replace him. MORE FROM TWINS DAILY — Latest Twins coverage from our writers — Recent Twins discussion in our forums — Follow Twins Daily via Twitter, Facebook or email
    5 points
  10. LaMonte Wade Jr. was an easy player to like. He slowly worked his way up through the minors over five years using his patient plate approach and solid outfield defense and found himself on the back end of a deep outfield rotation in 2019 and 2020. Nobody expected Wade to be a star player, but he seemed like the kind of solid contributor that fills out the edges of a competitive roster. He slashed .211/.336/.388 in a Twins uniform, played decent defense in the outfield, and even filled in at first base on occasion. It basically came down to a battle between Wade and Jake Cave for a roster spot last winter. To Cave’s and the Twins credit, he was fantastic, especially against righties prior to his disastrous 2020 season in which he was 18% below league average offensively. Cave’s prior play ultimately won him the roster spot as the Twins rightfully were planning on a rebound. Wade was eventually shipped to San Francisco for a high upside arm in Shaun Anderson. Now I like Shaun Anderson despite his struggles in a Twins uniform and I liked the trade at the time. He’s a high octane righty with a nasty slider that he struggles to locate. Plenty of adjustments that can be made. Unfortunately Anderson never figured it out in his brief time with the Twins, as he was claimed off waivers by Texas after posting a 9.35 ERA and 4.90 FIP in 8.2 innings. Meanwhile LaMonte Wade Jr. is slashing .257/.350/.443 with the Giants. No explanation is needed on Jake Cave’s performance. This wasn’t a noteworthy outcome in a vacuum, mistakes happen. I find it significant for two reasons however. First of all, this move symbolizes the entire offseason in my eyes. Was it an exciting move? No. You could make out what the Twins were trying to do however and it didn’t take much to get excited over someone they handpicked that was so under the radar. The same could be said for the signings of Robles, Happ, Shoemaker, Simmons and Colomé. Much like all of these but Robles however, it’s hard to imagine a scenario where the outcome could’ve been worse. Second, for whatever reason for all of the mistakes that were made this offseason, Shaun Anderson (who has minor league options and is 26 years old) is the first addition the front office has admitted failure on by placing him on waivers. Meanwhile J.A. Happ, Matt Shoemaker and Alexander Colomé continue to “eat innings” with absolutely zero chance of having any future on this team beyond 2021. It’s simply baffling. This move didn’t change the course of the Twins success in 2021, but it’s incredibly frustrating because it embodies the offseason perfectly. The majority of this winters acquisitions were sensible at the time but look absolutely horrible in retrospect as pretty much anything that could have gone wrong did. The result of such a string of lame duck acquisitions leaves Twins fans’ faith wavering, as all of the good will built up throughout 2019 and 2020 was undone in one fell swoop of atrocious pitching additions. The Twins will enter the 2021 offseason with ample money to spend and plenty of holes to fill. Can so many disastrous moves be chalked up to bad luck? Can Twins fans feel good about an upcoming offseason of acquisitions that will surely be relied upon to get back on track in 2022? — Latest Twins coverage from our writers — Recent Twins discussion in our forums — Follow Twins Daily via Twitter, Facebook or email — Follow Cody Pirkl on Twitter here
    5 points
  11. What happens to the rest of you?
    5 points
  12. I don't know, I may be a majority of one here, but I haven't been impressed since the day the boy wonder computer kids showed up at Target Field. The first thing they did was sell the farm the first two years, for "prospects", screwing Molitor the most, then firing him the first year they can get away with it so they can bring in another computer junkie. They sign a group of free agents in 2019 and virtually all of them over achieve, resulting in a record for home runs. They juggle free agent pickups and drop offs for 2 years, thinking they have all the makings of a roster in their own image. Well I, for one, have seen the image and I have no idea to this day what it is. I have said one other time, we have 7 outfielders (counting all the injured), 4 catchers (counting Austidillo) and have switched around our infield every which way you can looking for something that fits. And don't get me even thinking of the pitching staff (uuggggg). There is too much talent on this roster for it to be looking this bad. Quit juggling free agents, lineups, positions, and relief rotations and play your best players where they perform the best. In the meantime, you have more than enough talent to trade for holes we need filled......NOT "prospects".
    5 points
  13. This seems to contradict your claim in the immediately preceding post, where you opined that you can't imagine him wanting more than $20M AAV. Berrios is right around the 20th best starter in baseball over the past 3 years at almost any metric you look at (he appears anywhere from 17th to 25th on almost everything one would consider important for a starter; ERA, FIP, xFIP, k/9, bb/9, hard hit rate, swinging strike rate). That seems like something any number of teams would be interested in, particularly given the durability he's shown, and if more than one team wants him, the bidding war ensues which the Twins cannot be competitive in. The Angels have needed pitching for years, and in the next two years shed the contracts of Fowler, Cobb, Bundy, Quintana, Heaney, Upton, and Pujols. That's $111M they free up before 2023, meaning they could hand out 3 $20M AAV contracts next year, give out $20M in arb raises to their homegrown players, and still offer Berrios $30M AAV (given his willingness to bet on himself, do we really think a 28.5 year old Berrios would turn down a 3/$90M deal? He'd get to sign his second huge contract before 32, or the Angels could easily absorb 5 and $150M). The Dodgers will clear the contract of David Price next year, as well as Turner, Kershaw, Jansen, and Kazmir. That's also $111M, and they'll again have to replace those guys, but I don't think they'll struggle to find the coin (their current payroll is $250M, and they only have $107M in commitments for 2023). The Yankees, Mets, and Red Sox are also teams with deep pockets, in competitive windows, who are shedding salary to some degree in the next couple of years. I think it's very possible 2+ of those teams want Berrios as their number two starter. Would any of them be willing to pay $30M a year for that? Maybe not. But a year and half out, you're probably going to have to give Berrios that to keep him from exercising his right to find out. After all, if I can look all that up in about 15 minutes, I guarantee you Berrios' agent has as well. Should the Twins sign Berrios? In a vacuum, yes. In reality, no; because the only way you get him to sign on the dotted line right now is to give him either $30M AAV, or something like 8 and $200. Anything less than that, and he'll just wait for the bidding war after the 2022 season.
    5 points
  14. You said pay him what he wants. I'm asking if that is really true.... I think it is pretty clear he wants more than the Twins want to pay, or he'd be signed.
    5 points
  15. He doesn't. He and his agent have educated guesses. But it's still a year and a half out before they can "know". You've seen those hurricane cone maps? It's kind of like that, except probably with even more variance, and without a certainty of "weakening" like a storm will do as its geographic track plays out. We're at Wednesday AM right now. We're trying to pick a price that shuts the door on him finding out where the Monday AM location will be. Some players might accept the conservative offer, to reduce all the risk. Other players are said to "bet on themselves", and you will have to offer pretty close to the maximum in that cone of probabilities, to shut that door for them. 5 years for $80M is $16M a year. That is Kimbrel/Chapman territory - top relievers, but starters get more. Money like Bauer and Cole got may not be achievable. But I'm thinking $20M for 7 years is what's needed to get him to say, "OK, never mind about the Yankees and free agency." 1.5 years away, $140M will get his attention, $80M will not.
    5 points
  16. This is exactly why the "trade Berrios now" talk makes no sense. Trade for whom? And how do you fill the hole he leaves? Unless the ball club has decided to rebuild from the ground up, or if Berrios and his agent will settle for nothing less than the greatest amount they can obtain on the market, this is the correct approach. Smart management doesn't deal away personnel without knowing whom they will plug in as a replacement. Even if he is only ever a number 2 or 3 arm, having Berrios spend his most productive (or even all) years with the Twins is likely to benefit the club. Everyone they have on the farm is at least a season away from being as good as he is now, and dealing for someone as good or better is always fraught with peril. Dance with them that brung ya - and pay 'em, too.
    5 points
  17. My guess is the starting number is $100 million. Think Wheeler. 6/$110 million sounds right. Jose may want to pitch in New York City and then the reality of a tough decision next year looms.
    5 points
  18. Welcome back to more game Thread fun!! Berrios is heading to the mound tonight. I see a 8-2 win/loss ratio after the game tonight. I'm really not sure what to say about this team right now...Hot, cold, cold, cold, drought, rain, shine. Enough of the weather examples. This team really needs to figure out who they want on their pitching staff and who they want to trade or upgrade. Is the season lost? Maybe but this team always surprises me. Stranger things have happened! Sorry for the late post and short introduction but work got a little crazy today. It's Friday, people should be home enjoying happy hour at 4pm versus sending emails at 5:30. Who does that?......On to tonights game... This evenings lineup: TWINS: 1. Luis Arraez, 2B 2. Jorge Polanco, SS 3. T. Larnach, LF 4. Nelson Cruz, DH 5. Max Kepler, RF 6. Ryan Jeffers, C 7. Alex Kirilloff, 1B 8. Nick Gordon, CF 9. W. Astudillo, 3B P - Jose Berrios RANGERS: 1. I. Kiner-Falefa, SS 2. Nate Lowe, 1B 3. A. Garcia, CF 4. Joey Gallo, RF 5. Nick Solak, 2B 6. W. Calhoun, DH 7. Eli White, LF 8. Brock Holt, 3B 9. Jose Trevino, C P - Mike Foltynewicz (R) Weather: HOT
    4 points
  19. Haven’t lost an extra inning game since May 22!
    4 points
  20. Astudillo starts the 10th on 2nd base. We need to get him home.. Two doubles should do it.
    4 points
  21. Be careful leaving... Don't let the door hit you, Ash, on the way out.
    4 points
  22. This post,, in addition to being funny, also serves as an age verification device.
    4 points
  23. Nice work by Gordon to leg out the double. But when his helmet flew off, just for a second I was terrified that he's actually a cyborg and we were getting a look at his internal wiring.
    4 points
  24. My blackout area is also the end of the couch
    4 points
  25. 4 points
  26. Wheeler is the logical starting point. Here are Wheeler's stats with the Mets: Year Age Tm Lg W L W-L% ERA G GS GF CG SHO SV IP H R ER HR BB IBB SO HBP BK WP BF ERA+ FIP WHIP H9 HR9 BB9 SO9 SO/W Awards 2013 23 NYM NL 7 5 .583 3.42 17 17 0 0 0 0 100.0 90 42 38 10 46 2 84 4 0 6 431 104 4.17 1.360 8.1 0.9 4.1 7.6 1.83 2014 24 NYM NL 11 11 .500 3.54 32 32 0 1 1 0 185.1 167 84 73 14 79 3 187 11 0 9 794 97 3.55 1.327 8.1 0.7 3.8 9.1 2.37 2017 27 NYM NL 3 7 .300 5.21 17 17 0 0 0 0 86.1 97 53 50 15 40 1 81 3 0 1 386 79 5.03 1.587 10.1 1.6 4.2 8.4 2.03 2018 28 NYM NL 12 7 .632 3.31 29 29 0 0 0 0 182.1 150 69 67 14 55 0 179 9 1 2 744 112 3.25 1.124 7.4 0.7 2.7 8.8 3.25 2019 29 NYM NL 11 8 .579 3.96 31 31 0 0 0 0 195.1 196 93 86 22 50 4 195 2 0 5 828 104 3.48 1.259 9.0 1.0 2.3 9.0 3.90 7 Yrs 53 43 .552 3.53 151 151 0 2 2 0 916.2 835 391 360 85 308 13 897 39 1 26 3844 109 3.54 1.247 8.2 0.8 3.0 8.8 2.91 162 Game Avg. 12 10 .552 3.53 34 34 0 0 0 0 206 188 88 81 19 69 3 202 9 0 6 866 109 3.54 1.247 8.2 0.8 3.0 8.8 2.91 And Berrios' stats through today: Year Age Tm Lg W L W-L% ERA G GS GF CG SHO SV IP H R ER HR BB IBB SO HBP BK WP BF ERA+ FIP WHIP H9 HR9 BB9 SO9 SO/W Awards 2016 22 MIN AL 3 7 .300 8.02 14 14 0 0 0 0 58.1 74 56 52 12 35 0 49 5 0 1 281 53 6.20 1.869 11.4 1.9 5.4 7.6 1.40 2017 23 MIN AL 14 8 .636 3.89 26 25 0 0 0 0 145.2 131 71 63 15 48 0 139 13 1 7 616 114 3.84 1.229 8.1 0.9 3.0 8.6 2.90 2018 24 MIN AL 12 11 .522 3.84 32 32 0 2 1 0 192.1 159 83 82 25 61 1 202 13 0 2 797 111 3.90 1.144 7.4 1.2 2.9 9.5 3.31 AS 2019 25 MIN AL 14 8 .636 3.68 32 32 0 1 0 0 200.1 194 94 82 26 51 0 195 9 1 8 842 122 3.85 1.223 8.7 1.2 2.3 8.8 3.82 AS 2020 26 MIN AL 5 4 .556 4.00 12 12 0 0 0 0 63.0 57 28 28 8 26 0 68 3 0 5 271 107 4.06 1.317 8.1 1.1 3.7 9.7 2.62 2021 27 MIN AL 7 2 .778 3.49 13 13 0 0 0 0 77.1 64 32 30 10 20 0 81 4 0 1 311 116 3.68 1.086 7.4 1.2 2.3 9.4 4.05 6 Yrs 55 40 .579 4.12 129 128 0 3 1 0 737.0 679 364 337 96 241 1 734 47 2 24 3118 105 4.05 1.248 8.3 1.2 2.9 9.0 3.05 162 Game Avg. 15 11 .579 4.12 34 34 0 1 0 0 195 180 96 89 25 64 0 194 12 1 6 825 105 4.05 1.248 8.3 1.2 2.9 9.0 3.05 Those are close enough that I'd consider them a wash, though Berrios has a one year age advantage over Wheeler, which is worth noting. Also, Berrios' injury track record has been phenomenal in today's game.
    4 points
  27. It will set them back further than waiting until they walk away and the Twins get nothing?
    4 points
  28. Isn't the comp to look at Zack Wheeler? Yes, Wheeler was a bit older, but from a career perspective there's a lot of similarities: very good pitchers, never great. Belief that there's still another level to unlock for them, similar ERA+. Wheeler got 5 for $115M. I'm sure Berrios is thinking "I;m younger than this guy, I'm better than this guy, I'm never hurt...I should get 5 for $125, minimum." Is he wrong? It's an interesting question. All it takes is one. I'd lock up Berrios on 5 for $85M in a heartbeat, and I think the Twins would too. I think he's said no. The number will have to be over $100M for him to even consider it, because I'm sure he can get that on the open market and he's shown he's more than willing to bet on himself. and it's paid off for him. We are not talking AAV of $15-17M for Berrios on an extension. We're talking $20-25M if we actually want to sign him.
    4 points
  29. Ted wants a retool, not a complete roster teardown. The White Sox traded their veterans for prospects in 2016 and 2017. It took 4 to 5 years for them to develop. For the Twins, that means they would be ready to compete when Larnach, Jeffers and Kirilloff are about to become free agents.
    4 points
  30. Incorrect. The return is the player(s) they spend the money Berrios would have received plus whatever they get in prospects if they trade him this year. Yes, it's possible the propsects don't pan out. Let's also keep in mind that Tattis Jr. was the return for James Shields. Cane and Escobar came back in the Grienke trade. Moncada and Giolitto in the Chris Sale trade and on and on. Frankly, if you are going to pay him whatever it takes, why not take the prospects now and sign him later or just wait until he becomes a free agent given we know pitchers are prone to injury or the "Mike Hampton" disease old nurse pointed out. We could call it the Jordan Zimmerman or Chris Davis disease or even Albert Pujlos disease or any host of other free agents who were never that great after signing a big deal. I think Mike's question "what if he wants" 6/150 is the underlying reason he has not been signed. How many times do we hear in the off-season, especially high profile players are looking for X and X ends up being 150% of what they were looking for? As I recall JD Martinez started at $200M and got $125. It's quite common. Players see this process as the pot of gold at the end of the rainbow and rightfully so. The author's blank check premise is the answer to what is the last thing Tampa Bay would do or most teams for that matter. St. Louis let the great Albert Pujlos walk. Boston with a couple hundred million in incremental revenue as compared to the Twins did not give Betts whatever he wanted and on and on.
    4 points
  31. Problem is if you don't sign him and he walks the return could well be zero. How far will that set the franchise back
    4 points
  32. I am thinking many of you are light 5/110 or 6/140 come to mind as what he will command with another good year (2022) before FA. If you can't get it done in the next 6 weeks we must trade him (as painful as it might be). We don't know what the next CBA will be, and it will probably be tweeked or more in the players favor, because of the other issues. Maybe compensation goes away totally. Get it done or move on.
    4 points
  33. The Nola and Severino deals are no longer relevant to Berrios, due to the service time difference. McCullers is close -- he signed for 5/85 just 1 year away from FA. Berrios is still a half-season away from that, but he's also ahead of McCullers by some measures -- McCullers's final arb award was $6.5 mil, but Berrios is already at $6.1 mil in his second-to-last year of arb. (Probably because McCullers missed a year-plus due to Tommy John surgery, and has been on the IL most seasons otherwise.) Also, the McCullers deal takes effect in 2022. So including the 2021 arb award, it's more like 6/91.5. So I'd guess the McCullers deal is the baseline, but wouldn't be shocked if Berrios wanted 5/100 right now, or something like 6/110 including his likely 2022 arb salary.
    4 points
  34. You hold your breath and silently curse (insert name of bullpen member of choice here) for about a half hour.
    3 points
  35. I’m stuck on the radio now!
    3 points
  36. When I worked in AAA ball, I remember seeing Perkins and telling him “good game last night”, and he couldn’t have been more of a Dick Bremer
    3 points
  37. The answer to the question "How far can the Twins bullpen get us in extra innings?" is exactly the same as the punch line of the Ron White bit about how far the airplane can fly after an engine quits: "All the way to the crash site".
    3 points
  38. "We secretly switched the Nick Gordon that Ash saw in Pawtucket in 2019, with an actual baseball player. Let's see if he notices."
    3 points
  39. If you thought that was bad, you definitely don't want to see my outtakes...
    3 points
  40. And now mlbtv tells me I'm in the blackout area. To be fair, I did move to the other end of the couch.
    3 points
  41. 3 games in St Paul is magical. Look what it did for Buxton.
    3 points
  42. The assumption he will sign for "somewhere between 5/80 and 6/125" is a bold assumption. If he thinks he can get 6/125, there are plenty of players that are not signing for a dollar less. We also need to acknowledge there are a lot of players who start out with absolutely wild salary demands. Free agency is the opportunity for all the highest revenue teams to bid on your services. There are lots of players who are not budging without the benefit of that process so to assume they can convinced to forego free agency is a wild assumption.
    3 points
  43. It's all well and good to say we don't want a rebuild, but I'm pretty sure one is coming. The Twins have at most 5 pitchers that can be counted on to be full year contributors next year (Maeda, Berrios, Ober, Rogers, and Duffey). With a 13 man staff, where you need at least 5-6 solid options in the bullpen, that means the Twins need to find at least 5-6 arms this offseason; if any of the above get injured, or regress (can't be counted out, especially for Ober and Duffey), that number goes up. We can hope that Duran, Winder, Balazovic, and a couple of relievers can make the jump from the minors, but can you really feel good about your playoff chances if you're counting heavily on 4-5 rookies? There also won't be a ton of money to spend, because while you're clearing about $43M with Cruz, Pineda, Simmons, Happ, and Shoemaker moving on, all of those guys need to be replaced, and Berrios, Buxton, and Garver will get raises. To truly feel good about competing, I think the Twins would need to spend around $70M a year in new contracts for 2022, and that's just not going to happen. Accordingly, the only thing that makes sense is to completely tear down, to try and shorten the imminent rebuild from 4-5 years to 2-3. Trade Cruz, Berrios, Buxton, and Rogers for sure--those guys should net you 4-6 Top 100 guys. If you find takers for Simmons, Sano, Donaldson, Duffey, Robles, or Pineda, trade them as well. Play Gordon every day in center or short to see where he best sticks. Let Rooker DH every day to see how he handles the bigs. Call up every reliever from AAA/AA you can to see if any of them show flashes. Get Miranda up towards the end of the year as well. With any luck, you'll find a couple of keepers from that group, have a farm system with 6-8 Top 100 guys, some high draft picks, and loads of cash to use starting in 2023 to build onto a core of Kiriloff/Larnach/Arraez/Jeffers/Duran/Balazovic/others.
    3 points
  44. Always interested in seeing how Schulfer does when he starts. After all, he is a Wisconsin kid from the Stevens Point area and UWM. Another good night for Javier with two hits and a sac fly. If he can hit for an average of over .270 with some power, he could be the Twins shortstop of the future considering Seth's comments that he is plus, plus defensively. Also good seeing Urbina getting some hits most games. He is so young and hadn't played since he was in the DSL two years ago. Does anyone know whether his defense is adequate or very good? I see he has five stolen bases and was thrown out twice. Does he have plus speed?
    3 points
  45. See Pierre Mendes-France, "To govern is to choose." There is no safe road. After all risks are understood, make a decision, be prepared to accept the consequences and learn from them. If your decision results in success, party down, but don't get cocky.
    3 points
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