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  1. The article neither answers the question nor really gives enough information to draw a conclusion
    9 points
  2. Celestino is called up early because of injuries. Not a good time to make a long term valuation of him.
    9 points
  3. Thank you for explaining exactly why "Just call up the kids and see what you have" is an awful strategy. Celestino isn't terribly far off from being MLB ready, but he was called up way before they would have liked, and well before he was ready. And you've now pegged him as having basically no value. Players aren't drafted as completed products in baseball. They need time to learn and adjust. Celestino is, and will be, a very good defensive centerfielder, but he's in a league over his head and you're seeing mistakes because of it. This is why the minor leagues exist and exactly why you don't just call up prospects to see what you have. It's entirely predictable that almost all of them will get battered by far more advanced players.
    6 points
  4. Maeda had been on the IL for 3 weeks, and had only one rehab start of less than 60 pitches, IIRC. 76 pitches in 4 IP was enough last night. There are things to question Baldelli about over staff usage, but I dont think last night is unreasonable.
    6 points
  5. Fine line sometimes between being a good team versus a bad team. It's the ability to learn from mistakes and don't make them again. Twins are too consistent in making the same mistakes and decisions over and over. I know a lot of posters will disagree with me on this point, but I'm a believer in designating players in specific field positions, and a batting order with a semblance of consistency. Our outfielders are constantly challenged just in playing in new ballparks, i.e. left field plays a lot differently than right field and so on. Soften the anxiety of playing a new position every other day and still needing to provide offense. Too many times have I seen managers set players up to fail. Now, with that said, players do need to be flexible and an occasional start here and there is beneficial.
    6 points
  6. It does all count. Including the hundreds (thousands?) of innings he's played before the last few weeks that you've seen him. Your earlier post complained about him playing too shallow (same thing Buxton did when he came up, by the way). You think maybe that's a habit he picked up because he was fast enough (88th percentile sprint speed) to get back on minor league fly balls that aren't hit as hard and now he's seeing in the majors that the ball gets there a little quicker? Same with his routes (although I'd simply disagree that his routes are as bad on a regular basis as you make them sound). If you're used to me hitting fly balls to center you get comfortable knowing the ball over your head you can most likely get to, and the ball to the gap will hang up more due to lack of power behind the swing. But when a major leaguer hits one they travel quicker and farther. That's why they're in the majors and I'm not. The idea that you've watched him play a handful of games and have decided he's a grade 40 fielder when people with years of scouting experience pretty unanimously grade him at 60 as a fielder should say more about your scouting ability than anything.
    5 points
  7. I am sorry to say I stayed up to the end of the game. Disappointing. Somehow the idea of a relief pitcher coming into the game gives me no relief. I cringe and expect what we usually get - the worst. No criticism of the rookie OF - all three contributed mightily at bat - more than the old vets and learning the different OFs. all the travails of being a rookie are difficult. I like all three and Celestino getting up a year or two early is really learning on the fly and getting better each series. Isn't it time to start moving some more minor leaguers into the pen and rotation?
    5 points
  8. Speaking of which: both Texas and Pittsburgh took 2-of-3 from the Twins. In Minneapolis, no less.
    5 points
  9. I may or not be under the influence of mind altering substances right now, but I just realized we might get ten runned against the Mariners and some guy who sounds like he could be an arthritis medicine
    4 points
  10. I thought Flexen was an ad on the tv score graphic.
    4 points
  11. Maybe the hitters should be more concerned about making less errors/poor plays in the field and inability to hit in the clutch or situationally, than the bullpen needing to throw 5 shutout innings every night….
    4 points
  12. MLB needs to buy back the rights to their product, clean it up, nurse it back to health and then showcase it affordably and to the masses on any and every platform they can. I mean, that's what they should do if the owners want the game to be around for more than another decade. If they'd rather make as much money as they possibly can for the next few years until the game is dead, I guess they should just keep turning a blind eye. Casual baseball fans are not going to pay more than a nominal fee to watch baseball on TV. When only the diehard fans watch your sport, you become lacrosse.
    4 points
  13. Box Score Starter: Kenta Maeda 4.0 IP, 3 H, 1 ER, 3 BB, 7 K Home Runs: Alex Kirilloff (5), Gilberto Celestiono (1) Bottom 3 WPA: Robles (-.241), Farrell (-.226), Donaldson (-.163) Win Probability Chart (via FanGraphs) It had been 20 games since we last saw Kenta Maeda take the mound for the Minnesota Twins. His return was made up of several shifts from moments of “Old Maeda” showing some great command and then “2021 Maeda” losing command and back again. While it wasn’t the most comfortable of rides, Maeda gave the Twins 4 good innings and held the Mariners to one run on 76 pitches. The flashes of command were very encouraging even if not as consistent as one would like. Thankfully, Maeda had Jeffers behind the plate who also did his thing in helping his starter get every strike that he could. Young Outfield Trio Provides Offensive Spark This weekend caused a lot of attention to shift to trade deadline deals and what Twins should make up the core of the next playoff team. Monday night, the outfield full of rookies gave us a potential glimpse into the future as Alex Kirilloff, Gilberto Celestino, and Trevor Larnach provided the offense for the Twins. The Twins first inning was full of weak singles that were capped off by Larnach’s RBI single to start off his 2-for-3 night. It was then Kirilloff’s turn as he did the opposite of hit a Gonzales pitch weakly, launching his 5th homer of the season. Celestino would quickly follow suit and hit his first career homer to put the Twins up 3-1 over the Mariners. While Maeda’s start was encouraging, it still left 5 innings for the Twins bullpen to be able to navigate. Luke Farrell got the 5th inning and immediately allowed the Mariners to tie the game up 3-3. Jorge Alcala and Tyler Duffey followed and were able to hold the game at a tie score as the Twins offense just couldn’t get another hit to come through. Hansel Robles’ name was called on for the 8th. His outing started out well as he struck out Dylan Moore, but in the next at-bat, Jake Bauers took Robles deep for his third home run of the season to put the Mariners up 4-3. The Twins had one more chance in the 9th as the top of the lineup came to the plate. While that is the exact situation any team would want to try and win the game, the Mariners Steckenrider was able to close the door on the Twins. For another time in this disappointing 2021, the Twins seemed just one more pitcher or one more good at-bat away from being able to claim a win. Tuesday night the Twins will send J.A. Happ to the mound to try and find a win in Seattle. Bullpen Usage Spreadsheet WED THU FRI SAT SUN MON TOT Shoemaker 0 0 35 0 43 0 78 Duffey 0 20 22 0 0 10 52 Jax 51 0 0 0 0 0 51 Colomé 25 0 0 0 24 0 49 Farrell 0 23 0 0 0 24 47 Robles 0 11 0 15 0 17 43 Alcalá 0 7 15 0 0 19 41 Rogers 0 0 3 9 0 0 12 Dobnak 87 0 0 0 40 0
    3 points
  14. Didja hear about the cheese factory that blew up in France? Luckily, nobody was hurt, but man what a mess. De brie everywhere.
    3 points
  15. 236 strikeouts are certainly possible
    3 points
  16. I've gotten into racing snails in the past year or so. No, really. It's a thing. My best racing snail has been in a prolonged slump. I thought maybe if I took his shell off, he'd be faster. Didn't work though. If anything, it made him more sluggish.
    3 points
  17. This free agent class has a good chance to be worse than the 2018 free agent class. This FO duo may not be the best at identifying valuable free agents.
    3 points
  18. "Hitting major league pitching is obviously much harder." Unless it the Twins pitching staff, minus a couple of exceptions. LOL
    3 points
  19. I for one hope the Twins weren’t cheating. Because it the results we have seen so far are "cheat" assisted then I shudder to think what it will be like when we don’t? That said, if the rest of the league is using sticky stuff, what makes one think the Twins won’t? Just cuz Donaldson says not to? I doubt a pitcher who’s paycheck doesn’t come from Donaldson really cares what he thinks. If the baseline is sticky stuff, I can’t believe Twins pitchers aren’t on it. Despite the results so far!
    3 points
  20. Not Seth, but here is what I found. It seems that the June draft is being held in July. The 2021 MLB Draft will be held in Denver, Co., as part of the league’s All-Star Break festivities. The 10-round spectacle, which is set to kick off on Sunday, July 11, will span three days.
    3 points
  21. Yep, the questions 'How does a team that was on the cutting edge of analysis and implementation of advanced data suddenly become one of the worst pitching staffs in baseball? And does that have anything to do with the fact that the most outspoken hitter on the substance topic is playing 3B?" have crossed my mind quite a few times this spring. I can't prove anything either way, so I can't/won't officially have that take. But I do wonder...
    3 points
  22. I noticed that, but that one additional hit with RISP was the difference in the game. I know there isn't a huge disparity, but the difference was a deciding factor. Couple that with a bullpen that actually shut down the opponent versus one that ultimately gave up the winning run. To your point, I could have phrased that a bit differently, for sure.
    3 points
  23. Here's the called strike chart for each team: Seems like the Twins got a few more strikes off that side of the plate, although it's possible the Twins pitchers were just attacking that spot more often. Here's the called balls chart for each team: Link (you have to click "Illustrator" under the score box to toggle the pitch charts): https://baseballsavant.mlb.com/gamefeed?date=6/14/2021&gamePk=633716&chartType=pitch&legendType=pitchName&playerType=pitcher&inning=&count=&pitchHand=&batSide=&descFilter=Ball&ptFilter=&resultFilter=&hf=
    3 points
  24. OK here is my biased not overly objective new top 20. Some newer guys haven't played so I had a tough time judging them and didn't put them in. I didn't put Rooker in the top 20 because he is pretty old to be a prospect IMO. A lot of my picks were based on a what have you done for me lately view and not strictly potential so there are likely flaws but my list is below. 1) Royce Lewis 2) Jordan Balazovic 3) Jhoan Duran 4) Josh Winder 5) Jose Miranda 6) Cole Sands 7) Matt Canterino Keoni Cavaco 9) Blayne Enlow 10) Edouard Julien 11) Gileberto Celestino 12) Matt Wallner 13) Spencer Steer 14) Wander Javier 15) Misael Urbina 16) Chris Vallimont 17) Jermaine Palacios 18) Aaron Sabato 19) Jovani Moran 20) Louie Varland
    3 points
  25. Gleeman's pitch framing tweet does not mean much without seeing the called strikes for the other pitchers in the game. This might that umpire's strike zone on the night.
    3 points
  26. Miranda is the minor league story of the year for me so far. He's doing a wonderful job at the plate, showing an advanced approach with discipline, power, and contact skills. He absolutely has to take a huge leap up the rankings progressing like he has at a new level and having his best season as a pro. Would like to know more about his defense, but it can't be that bad at 3B if the team is willing to run him out a SS for a couple of games if in need. It's not like he's an older player beating up on a bunch of teenagers, either; he's the 2nd youngest player to hit for Wichita this season (behind Celestino). tremendous breakthrough season for Miranda and he's in my top ten for sure. Steer is doing well, but I'll be more impressed with him as a prospect if he makes the jump to AA this year and keeps hitting against better competition. a 3-year college player should be able to hammer it in the low minors. I'm excited about canterino and worried about the elbow. Ugh. Winder should make his entrance on the prospect lists and I'm interested to follow him more closely. I'd say Moran deserves a place as well, even if relievers usually seems to get downgraded on prospect lists; he's looking like he might be the real deal.
    3 points
  27. Never mind that television rights are the largest source of the sport’s inequity, too.
    3 points
  28. June 15, 2020- season not yet started June 15, 2021- Twins window for post season contention closed
    3 points
  29. You're not wrong in that their analytics told them he's not likely to be a player with long-term success. And frankly, the analytics suggest that he's riding a lucky streak right now, which happens to relievers all the time since they don't have tons of innings. But Littell was also a guy who has been passed on by every team when he got pulled from the 40 man. The Twins were interested in bringing him back on a minor league deal; he just chose to go elsewhere as a minor-league free agent: no one gave him a major league deal, not even the Giants. The Giants took a flyer on him on a minor league make-good deal with no risk. He pitched well enough to make the roster and has played well, but I doubt they're gonna offer him any kind of multi-year extension. We'll see where he is at the end of the year too...
    3 points
  30. Actually Texas took 3 of 4 from us in Minneapolis. Although sadly it doesn’t stand out as particularly memorable among the many disappointing moments of this season so far...
    3 points
  31. Maybe not, because it would be 2-2 because of his homer. Celestino is supposed to be a very good defensive true centerfielder, but he plays too shallow and it continues to cost us runs, as it did again tonight. His routes are terrible, and his throws are worse, as is his judgement. I would rather see Gordon in center, and he never played center until the last couple of games! I keep reading about his Prospect value, but I'm not buying. Try to sell it all you like, sportswriters. I don't see Celestino as a plus in any way. This bullpen. So painful. I can't imagine what it is like being on this team and having to watch them lose your games late. The hitters must hate them. And now we get Happ tomorrow, the 1 year gift from the FO. Thanks.
    3 points
  32. Tigers beat the Royals, we're alone in last place.
    3 points
  33. The Twins visit Seattle in the second game of their series with the Mariners. They lost last night 4-3 as the bullpen yielded three runs in four innings. The Twins continue to hit and allow home runs. They are (were) second in MLB in homers and third in allowing home runs. If you want to see home runs, go to a Twins game. JA Happ takes the hill versus a pretty weak Seattle lineup. Happ has struggled, as almost all of the Twins pitchers have, with allowing homers. The Twins bullpen leads MLB in losses, not a stat to lead the majors. Luis Arraez returns to the Twins starting lineup, hitting leadoff and playing second base. Nick Gordon gets another start in center field and apparently Byron Buxton is not yet ready to go. OK, diehard fans, enjoy another late night watching two below .500 teams square off. Pitchers: PLAYER W-L ERA WHIP IP H K BB HR J.A. Happ 3-2 5.75 1.37 56.1 60 39 17 10 C. Flexen 5-3 4.68 1.39 59.2 71 36 12 7 Lineups--Twins HITTERS H-AB RBI HR SB AVG L. Arraez2B 39-142 14 1 0 .275 J. Donaldson3B 45-186 26 10 0 .242 T. LarnachLF 27-99 9 3 0 .273 N. CruzDH 58-195 31 13 1 .297 J. PolancoSS 56-224 30 9 3 .250 A. KirilloffRF 31-122 19 5 0 .254 M. Sano1B 32-177 32 13 0 .181 N. GordonCF 11-32 2 1 5 .344 B. RortvedtC 6-40 4 1 0 .150 Mariners HITTERS H-AB RBI HR SB AVG J.P. CrawfordSS 64-234 23 3 2 .274 J. FraleyCF 14-51 15 4 4 .275 T. France1B 52-210 22 3 0 .248 K. Seager3B 55-255 40 13 2 .216 D. Moore2B 24-132 22 6 9 .182 T. MurphyC 23-127 14 6 0 .181 J. BauersRF 24-119 9 3 0 .202 L. TorrensDH 16-90 6 2 0 .178 S. Long Jr.LF 3-20 0 0 0 .150
    2 points
  34. Had enough of this. G'night, Gracie.
    2 points
  35. 2 points
  36. I heard the roof bleu right off
    2 points
  37. The Mariners announcers sound genuinely stunned to see seattle score this many runs
    2 points
  38. You're on here basically everyday commenting how awful the FO, and Rocco, and most of the players are. You're now stating that everyone who says Celestino is a legit CFer is wrong based on a couple weeks of MLB games. If me pointing out that your assessments are based on less data and going against industry wide agreed upon assessments come off as calling you stupid I apologize. I mean it in a "maybe reassess your assessments since they go against industry wide conclusions so maybe you're missing some information" way. None of us are professional scouts or FO execs (at least that I know of). But many of the writers on this site have contacts with more knowledge and information, and some of the commenters have backgrounds that lend themselves to more educated opinions. We're all entitled to our opinions, and you're entitled to feel as though Celestino doesn't have a legit shot at being an MLB CFer. But just like you get to question, and argue against, the FO decisions and other commenters opinions I (and anyone else) gets to question, and argue against, your opinions. I apologize for coming off as calling you stupid as that wasn't my intention. Simply disagreeing.
    2 points
  39. Dang, that's cheap. The middle market for FAs crashing has certainly helped the Vikings this offseason.
    2 points
  40. It makes sense that this organization would choose someone with 4 HRs even though he hit .222.
    2 points
  41. thank god we stink so I don't have to stay up and watch west coast games. a few of the younger guys are the only reason to bother tuning in. the rest just make me angry. 15 comments on a post game thread says my feelings are not unique
    2 points
  42. DMan wrote............I think I am back on the Wander Javier bandwagon. He has been in my doghouse for so long though that I need to give it just a little more time. Very happy to see him doing so well. Well enough that the Twins will likely have to add him to the 40 man this year. You hit my feelings about Javier right on the head, Dman, although I will be back on the bandwagon more quickly than you. Hope like heck you are right and after years he becomes the stud we all were hoping for however many years ago.
    2 points
  43. Firing Baldelli seemed unfathomable even just a couple of weeks ago. To most of you, I'm sure it still seems unfathomable and highly unlikely. He is still making the same bizarre mistakes. Moving on from Baldelli not only seems fathomable to me now, it seems like a necessity. Does the front office feel the same way? I doubt it, but it would be nice if they did, it could be the difference between 2021 being an aberration v. a long rebuild. This isn't a knee-jerk, "Fire the manager!" reaction to a bad season. Honestly, I'm kind of worried about the guy. I know he's a smart guy and a good guy, but his decisions are baffling. I hope he is OK. Obviously, if he is not OK, the Twins should keep him and work on that. Sports movies and TV shows sometimes have a villain owner who does little things to sabotage the team. Baldelli's decisions are could be written for such a character. He makes decisions that even a casual viewer can see are the wrong decisions. There are many reasons the Twins are having a bad year, but Baldelli is the one person responsible for largest portion of it. Moving on from him would give the Twins the most "bang for the buck" when it comes to moving this team back into contention in future years.
    2 points
  44. Amazing to see the effect that the ability to hit with RISP has on the game's outcome. One team does it, and the other doesn't. The team that does, won.
    2 points
  45. Note that the Twins players of the week literally are the players that the Twins chose as their players of the week. Not me. I'm just grabbing that from the Twins media notes each Sunday. And again, to be fair, they announce that Sunday morning, so their week may be Sunday through Saturday, rather than Tuesday through Sunday like I look at.
    2 points
  46. You don't break up an entire core of the team just because of one bad year/start. I could see trading Kepler and maybe Polanco out of this group but none of the others.
    2 points
  47. 3 runs isn't a great offensive display, but if Byron Buxton is in Center Field we win that game 3-2
    2 points
  48. I certainly hope Robles will be on the trading block. He has been very fortunate so far this season. I am expecting his luck to run out.
    2 points
  49. I can never decide if I like Catan or not. I mean, we play, especially when our younger son is in town....but I never know how I feel about it.
    2 points
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