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  1. The team may have a -1 run differential, but the horrible bullpen and hitting with RISP completely negate this one of many wishful justifications that a bad team's performance will eventually normalize. ( When your bullpen cannot hold leads in the 8-10 innings and your batters aren't clutch hitters with RISP--relying solely on sporadic bunching of home runs-- you are going to lose more 'close' games and the games that you do win will be by a lot of runs which skew the run differential (which is what has happened) This is not bad luck. Our record very much reflects how we have played. My personal favorite is the average exit velocity that some rave about without remembering that you actually have to hit the ball to get an exit velocity. If people want to start factoring in exit velocity, better start averaging in 0s for the strike outs! The Twins have had great exit velocities this year!* *when they have actually hit the ball ....the manager deserves much more blame when an entire team is playing sloppy and without fire.
    10 points
  2. I would reverse the allocation between the Front Office and the manager. I do think Rocco it’s about 25% responsible for where this team is. I would give the FO 15% because they badly misjudged the bullpen talent. This team is just not ready to play every day, they’ve lost confidence, and they look tight. The manager has to take responsibility for that. Rocco also needs to get his head out of the statistics, give his starters longer leashes since the bullpen is not strong, and be less afraid to pull the plug on players like Sano who are simply not performing. Those players either need to go to AAA or the bench. I think we really miss Derek Shelton as a bench coach and I know we miss James Rowson as a hitting coach. I think it’s time to cut to the chase. The season is pretty much lost. Let’s move on from some of the fringe, under performing veterans like Jake Cave, Kyle Garlick, and Caleb Theilbar. We need to keep Colome around, find a way to give him seven to ten strong performances, and then trade his ass at the deadline to somebody desperate for relief help. Strip this club down to the players you really want to have going forward and then, instead of filling the gaps with average or mediocre veteran talent, fill it with some of the young guys out of the system and sort through who can play. Now is the time for Larnach and Thorpe instead of Cave and Shoemaker. Let’s do what we’re doing with the catching. Garver is the starter and we gave Jeffers a chance to be the second catcher. He didn’t hit and we sent him to AAA and replaced him with Rortvedt. If he doesn’t hit and Jeffers hits in AAA, switch them out until you find one that can stay at the MLB level. Do you the same thing with the relief pitching and the same thing with the fifth starter spot. Sano can’t find his stroke at the MLB level, send him to AAA, give Kirilloff the 1B Job and put Larnach in the outfield. If Kepler can’t find his stroke, make him the fourth outfielder and start playing Larnach or Rooker every day. Maybe even find some consistent at bats for Gordon or Weil. And heresy of heresies, maybe it’s time to see if there’s a market for Cruz or Donaldson that would get you a quality relief pitcher or starter with upside. Look, I’m disappointed because I thought this was a team that had a real shot. It’s becoming pretty clear even at this early stage that it just does not. I could get behind watching a developing team this year, with a decent core supplemented by young guys being groomed for the future and getting their shot. It’s hard to get behind a veteran team playing poorly with no real plans for the future. And let’s face it, that’s with this team is right now.
    10 points
  3. We have not been “ok” offensively. Let’s break down our run production into a stem and leaf plot: Scored 10+ Runs: 5 Times Scored 9 Runs: 1 Time Scored 8 Runs: 1 Time Scored 7 Runs: 0 Times Scored 6 Runs: 2 Times Scored 5 Runs: 1 Time Scored 4 Runs: 2 Times Scored 3 Runs: 8 Times Scored 2 Runs: 6 Times Scored 1 Run: 2 Times Shutout: 2 Times That massive mark at 10+ completely inflates or Run Differential. Almost half the time, we score 2 or 3 runs. Those 10 Run games shouldn’t be separated from the 5 or 6 run games. That is called stat padding. For example, Ben Roethlisberger did not have a good game in the wild card game against the Browns this past year, despite the fact that his team scored 37 and he had a PR ~90. The game was well out of reach by the first quarter, in which his team scored 0, were down 28-0, with 3 turnovers. Those 37 points were stat padding against a backup secondary in garbage time.
    9 points
  4. Boy ... even the ads are in on the Twins this year ...
    7 points
  5. I agree with this split. We’re blasting the FO and Rocco but, while they deserve criticism for sure, the players need to come first. It feels like this team is constantly fighting against itself, nobody getting on the same page and, as a result, failing miserably at everything. When the offense shows up, the bullpen doesn’t. When the pitching shows up, the bats go bye bye. When the relievers find themselves in some trouble, the defense does NOT help out. Arraez never should’ve been at 3rd in the Oakland game, Blankenhorn shouldn’t have been at short. But Arraez is a major league player. He should have some idea of where to throw, and he misses by 40 feet. Was it dumb to pull Donaldson? Of course. Bad decision. But any major league player should be able to make that throw. That isn’t Rocco. That’s the players. With the bullpen in general, why does Rogers serve up meat so much? Duffey? Robles, who’s been rock solid thus far, giving up a game-tying HR to...let’s see here: Jonah....Heim?? Maeda, of course, was going to regress. But this kind of regression couldn’t have been predicted by anyone. Kepler and Polanco look like they don’t even care. Not bothering to work the opposing pitcher...not even taking professional ABs. I suggest trading Kepler while he still has SOME value, because rate of change in production function v(t) is negative right now, and a(t) is too. Polanco, at this point, has basically no value. I would rather see Gordon and Larnach in their spots. Falvine did not do a good job with the pen, it’s been said over and over. I’m not going to address that, because enough has been said. Rocco is making questionable decisions. But given the attitude of his players, he basically is forced to put the whole team up on his back and it just isn’t happening.
    7 points
  6. Going 137-85 over those two years was "luck", and going 11-19 in a month plus is not? It seems downright negligent to claim that a sample size of 30 games completely and totally trumps a sample size of over 200 games. We played 52 games over .500 and nobody deserves credit for it except "luck"?! Molitor and his old school approach got us one playoff game in 4 years. He oversaw the Total System Failure squad and had a talented squad in 2018 and squandered it. Shouldn't he be held responsible for his failure of results like you want Rocco to be held accountable?
    6 points
  7. Up to 59 already, Rocco only requires a few more than that from starters some nights.
    6 points
  8. I remember an interview NFL Hall of Famer Michael Irvin had with Joe Buck where Irvin was talking about his first season with the Dallas Cowboys as Tom Landry was about to retire. They'd lose a game on Sunday and on Monday he had some players come up to him and remind him that the paycheck was still going to be there later that week. That infuriated Irvin and when his coach from the U of Miami Jimmy Johnson got the job to replace Landry, he gave Jimmy the names of those players and Johnson worked on getting them off the team. Could the Twins be in a similar situation? We have given early extensions to players like Kepler, Polanco and Sano that looked like good ideas at the time. But now we see those players not playing with the intensity and results they had before the extensions. Also, Rocco Baldelli might have lost this team already. He's always been too laid back for me and has babied the players since he's been here (with scheduled days off and IL visits that last past the normal period). If someone treats you like a baby, you might start acting like one. I think one could make an argument that he doesn't hold the players accountable for bad play. I know that players are professionals and should be able to hold themselves accountable to play hard, but being realistic, the players in general in the Majors these days have changed with the large money that is being paid to them. I guess I prefer my manager to be a little old school and want and try to win games and make the players also want to win as well. I know there's an argument that Baldelli's teams have won the AL Central division that last two years, but those teams were teams that should have been expected to do even more. The Pohlad's went out and upped the spending for the teams the last three years from the $90-100 million area to the $125-135 million area. If these teams don't produce you could expect to see the owners decide to spend less in the future, to stay profitable as attendance could be dropping. And can we finally put the "pitch framing" strategy in the grave? I'm tired of watching our catchers give up bases and runs on wild pitches and occasional passed balls because they can't shift over on balls in the dirt to keep the ball in front of them when they're positioned with their legs spread out. Traditional catchers position themselves to be able to catch those balls in the dirt or wide. I think putting runners in scoring position or actually scoring on balls that get past the catchers far outweighs the calls we might get by "framing" the ball. Every umpire has their own strike zone and we all watch them make good and bad ball/strike calls irregardless of any help from the catcher. If the ball hits the ground, the missed ball is called a Wild Pitch and thus the catchers are probably less concerned since the missed ball doesn't show on their fielding stats.
    6 points
  9. "...were two for thirteen with runners in scoring position." Still a little high. Get that down to 0 for 13 and they'll be ready to fit in with the big club.
    6 points
  10. stringer bell

    Ch-ch-changes?

    The Twins play their 30th game this afternoon and are currently 11-18. They've been beset by bad luck, bad play and have taken a beating with two rule changes (extra-inning runner on second, 7-inning games for doubleheaders). How do they get out of this funk? I'm sure many in the organization will preach patience and they may be right, but that isn't any fun. Here are some possibilities for change that might help the team: Role change. We've already seen one role change. At least temporarily Alexander Columé is not going to see high-leverage innings. Columé has been a huge disappointment and even when he has worked scoreless innings, he's been shaky. The problem is that taking Columé out of high leverage situations leaves the Twins with few good options, particularly when going 6 or more innings for a starter is a rarity. I think one pitching role change that should be made is to use Taylor Rogers in non-save high leverage situations as happened early in 2019 and sometimes use him for multiple innings. Rogers shouldn't be used in back-to-back days. Moving Alcala to high leverage situations seems to be gradually happening. If things continue to go bad, it makes sense to have him give a shot as a closer. Position players--it seems to me that both Polanco and Kepler should have their roles diminished from full-time regular to something different. Kepler can play a corner and center and Polanco has played short and second, maybe Max should be slotted as the fourth OF or at least platooned with Garlick. I think giving Polanco the role of three-position infielder wouldn't be a stretch. He could get some at-bats as a platoon partner for my choice of regular second baseman (Arraez) and left-handed at-bats in place of Simmons and when Donaldson takes a day off (or is injured). Promotions/demotions. Assuming that Alex Kirilloff is in the big leagues to stay, when healthy the Twins have one extra position player and someone will have to be sent to the minor leagues or released. Discussion has centered on Jake Cave. Several others could be sent down and that doesn't begin to discuss the pitching staff. Many pitchers'performances could merit their demotion. Trades. It is unlikely that anyone will make a significant trade this early in the year. However, the Twins would be a good candidate for a major trade nearer the trade deadline. They have some redundancy (left handed hitting corner outfielders) and holes that need patching (bullpen, perhaps catching) and many candidates to trade. They also have a lot of players who would be free agents after this season. I do wonder if someone who was considered a cornerstone (Polanco, Kepler, Sanó) could be traded. None of these guys have performed remotely well so far but an uptick could make them more marketable. I have to believe that the Twins will bring in new pitchers either in the bullpen or the rotation. What they have at this time in the bullpen just hasn't worked. Personally, I think the Twins will need to do a little bit of everything to turn the corner. I am a proponent of changing roles. I think Kepler and Polanco could be candidates to have limited roles. The Twins need to add at least one strong arm in the bullpen, most likely by trade and Trevor Larnach is reputed to be nearly as much a sure thing as a hitter as Alex Kirilloff, plus he is a better outfielder. There is too much talent for the club to continue to play sub.400 baseball, but I think they need to make changes immediately.
    5 points
  11. Rocco needs someone "old school" that can help him or he needs to go. He manages completely by stats which is fine if your playing strat-o-matic, but in the real world you gotta go with your gut at times, and it doesnt seem Rocco can or will do that. It seems all I ever hear from him is preaching patience, or how hard the boys are working. He is the boss on the field and as such the responsibility is his to get better results. Yesterday as an example he pulled Pineda after 6 innings with the bottom of the order due up next and less than 90 pitches thrown. Was something wrong with Pineda? Knowing what a terrible bullpen we have why not let him go another inning? I havent seen any pitchers arm fall off at 100 pitches in the 60+ years Ive been watching the game. There have been countless other times where i have thought to myself "what in the world is Rocco thinking" this year and usually it turns out bad. Im not saying fire the guy, but he needs someone who is more experienced to help him as a bench coach.
    5 points
  12. I think the FO should get more than half the blame. For one, the bp. For two, I think they've massively over-estimated or completely missed in evaluating abilities of some of the players. Yeah, some players are just not performing and I have to wonder if that's just who they are at this point (Kepler, Polanco and Sano). And those are the three that the FO has put some faith in with healthy contracts. So ... yeah ... the FO gets the majority of the blame here. And I'd say 60% or more of it.
    5 points
  13. Masks now optional at Target Field, but paper bags over your head mandatory for anyone in seats designated as "in background view of center field, on deck circle, and bullpen TV cameras. Paper bags optional for all others. Cut out eye holes in bags will not exceed 2.5 inches in diameter. Drawing mask on bag with sharpie for comedic effect not permitted. That would be funny...once."
    5 points
  14. It's the curse of Eddie Rosario.....and at least Rocco wasn't managing in our World Series when Jack Morris pitched more than 6 innings....
    5 points
  15. The FO should shoulder most of this blame. The bullpen is crap and they seem to be big believers in limiting starting pitching innings. Seems like if you're aiming to build a team where the starters max out around 170 innings on the season, you have to have a huge and productive bullpen. We don't. I don't understand how the team was made. Offensively, I think it's ok. I'm ready to move on from Polanco and Kepler but we have some depth behind them that could work. And I'll give the FO credit for trying to build around the offense by bringing in Donaldson and Cruz. But the team has a few too many bench players in starting spots right now. Hopefully, a little health fixes that.
    5 points
  16. No, the guy in charge is always 100% responsible. If it’s a matter of the players being bad, why didn’t the talent evaluators figure that out? The FOs job is to put together a collection of players that can win baseball games. The managers job is to get that collection of players to perform. That’s his one and only job. Literally. Blaming this on guys like Kepler and Polanco, who now have a large sample size of suck, is absurd. Why would you think Maeda, in his mid 30s, is all of the sudden an ace because of one good shortened season? You can’t heap praise on these guys as “geniuses” when the players perform, then blame it on the players when they don’t. When Molitor was given crap team, nobody seemed to be lining up to give him a pass like they are Baldelli. The FO had every opportunity to get this bullpen in adequate shape. They made the decision to let two key late inning guys walk (May and Clippard) and replace them with guys off the trash heap. They terribly misjudged Colome (other FOs that wouldn’t touch him seemed to figure it out). If they would’ve addressed that properly, we’d be within spitting distance of the division leaders now despite the slumping offense. We wouldn’t be having this conversation. It’s time to stop making excuses for these guys. We’ve been sold a bill of goods on them (brilliant data analysts, pitching wonderkind, etc.) that is false. They got lucky in 2019-2020. Do your job or be held accountable.
    5 points
  17. This is classic for Saint Paul. They are practicing for this year's Twins by stranding runners, wasting good performances, and even have a closer, Coulombe, with a last name far too close Colome (those extra letters don't fool me), who gets the same results.
    5 points
  18. I I am depressed. Who thought we’d be reading this article a month into the season?
    5 points
  19. Rosterman just blew my mind in the Ex-Twins thread. It appears that the Angels booted HOF Albert Pujols for former Twins legend Drew Butera.
    4 points
  20. Various sample sizes, some very tiny, but Larnach's wRC+ has been incredibly stable at every level of his pro career so far: R: 139 A: 149 A+: 148 AA: 148 AAA: 152
    4 points
  21. My guess is that Waddell will be DFA'd
    4 points
  22. Brock Beauchamp

    Shoemaker

    What really irks me is that had MLB not postponed the minor league season to save money, the Twins might actually have some arms to fix this travesty of a bullpen. Instead, we sit here and watch the same guys fail over and over again.
    4 points
  23. We could start using the median instead of the mean. The median for the Twins is a hell of a lot lower, and heck it accurately describes what happens more often by its very definition. Median runs scored per game: 3. Median runs allowed per game: 4.
    4 points
  24. This is your opinion. I think Baldelli shoulders much more of the blame. He legitimately seems to be out of step with the players. You could say Baldelli is in his own bubble. It's clear to see with the pitching that has not adequately assessed who should be pitching where and when. The front office shoulders more blame as well. Yes they had good intentions, and yes they used the same method to build out the bullpen that they used in previous years. Personally, I expected this year's result in those previous years too, so although I was not happy with the bullpen this year, I held back on judging it. As for the players, I'm sure none of them want to be hitting or pitching as badly as they are. Let's be serious, would any of us be building a team around the likes of Kepler, Sano, Polanco, Shoemaker, Colome, etc.? Yes, all of us would probably have kept one or two of these guys around, but not all of them. For me, the biggest disappointment is Polanco, but I can't honestly say any of the others would still be on this team if I were in charge. Not that getting rid of all of them now is the answer, gutting the team by cleaning house is a recipe for disaster. The Twins should be looking to improve continuously by moving a couple of these marginal pieces year over year. In any case, the players are who they are. Blaming them for that is not productive, unless we know they are not taking the job seriously. If any of us believed, for example, that Kepler was a difference-maker, that's on us. The Twins team of the 00s had a lot of turnover, but kept improving. Sure, the late 80s teams had roster consistency, but they also had a team of all-stars and were setting attendance records.
    4 points
  25. We’re not just talking about Kepler and Polanco, they’re bunny turd balls on top of the already massive ****cake. We’re talking about Taylor Rogers and Tyler Duffey pitching like absolute ass in motion. We’re talking about Maeda giving up 6 HR in 2 games. We’re talking about Nelson Cruz and Josh Donaldson, instead of being the veteran leaders and quality players they were and are supposed to be, striking out on three pitches in key spots. We’re talking about Luis Arraez, a major league player, overthrowing first by about 40 feet. None of those guys have “a large sample size of suck”. And even then, Kepler and Polanco don’t even appear to be TRYING. If they’re not talented but they’re really trying, they would be putting together half-decent ABs but unable to hit the ball hard. What are we seeing? 4-Pitch Strikeout after weak dribbler after Popfly. The players don’t wear mind-control helmets, they aren’t robots, and Rocco isn’t a mad scientist. When you boil it down it’s one human (the manager) working against forty others (the players). Players need to be held accountable for poor performance.
    4 points
  26. I agree with everything but Astudillo. All year writers seem to want to say something derogatory about him. But he is a bench player and a utility man. If we want to jump on a bench player - take Cave. Astudillo has 0.4 WAR as a bench player. He is 288 with a 758 OPS. As a bench player who is number 6 in WAR on the team he is contributing and has spirit. When someone is better they can take his place, but I am happy to have him on the team.
    4 points
  27. What..!? Are you telling me hard hit rate and barrel ball pct, and exit velocity don't matter with a runner on 2nd and no outs? I thought it was a contest to hit the hardest ball? I'm shocked that moving a runner over or hitting to the gap works. I thought for sure swinging for a 3 run Homer with nobody on was the way to go. Launch angle must need adjusted. Sarcasm. RBI is so meaningless. Why would anyone want to bat in a run. Smh
    4 points
  28. "We’re almost to the finish line, Minnesota. Together, we can do this.”Citing increased vaccination rates and falling COVID numbers, Minnesota Governor Tim Walz announced new metrics for roasting the hell out of the Minnesota Twins. “I’m incredibly proud of the work Minnesotans have done in getting us to this point,” said Walz. “The epic failure of the Minnesota Twins in the first month of the season deserves a vigorous, full-throated response. And soon all of us will be able to provide it.” Walz revealed a graduated plan that will allow all Minnesotans to beat the holy hell out of the underperforming 11-19 squad no later than July 1st. PHASE 1 May 7: Fully vaccinated individuals can gather to craft “FIRE ROCCO” signage for use at home games before ushers remove them.Non-vaccinated or partially vaccinated individuals can write strongly worded posts on social media about the subpar play of Max Kepler, Miguel Sano, and Jorge Polanco.Minnesotans age 21 and older can take one (1) day off work at full pay, citing an “epic hangover, dude” after watching the bullpen crumble.Gleeman and the Geek listeners can get 25% off their first month of the Calm app. Use code “YOU KNOW WHO ELSE HAD ONE ACL BECKY? BATMAN. BATMAN HAD ONE ACL, BECKY” to subscribe.PHASE 2 May 28: All Minnesotans can gather indoors to be sad about baseball. Mask up if the group is 500+.All Minnesotans can yell at the sky about how unfair the injuries to Alex Kiriloff, Luis Arraez, or Byron Buxton are. Faith-based prayer and or cursing also acceptable and encouraged.Full-on heave crying in fully ventilated areas now permitted. Masks preferred but not required.If Minnesotans are choosing between an illegal stream of the Twins game or watching Twister on HBO, watching Twister on HBO is now recommended. Bill Paxton would have wanted it this way. Also way less spyware on the HBOMax app.Gleeman and the Geek listeners can get a free personal grooming kit from Harrys.com. Use the code “FIGHT ME, BUSTER OLNEY” to take advantage of this special offer.PHASE 3 July 1: If things are still bad, all Minnesotans can gather at the Blue Mounds State Park in Luverne to light a cleansing fire. It all burns in the fire. Snacks and refreshments will be provided. Corey Koskie will probably be there?Twins fans who are also Vikings fans can shift their focus to demanding Kellen Mond replace Kirk Cousins at quarterback even in poorly ventilated Willy McCoy's bar areas. Click here to view the article
    3 points
  29. <<the sound of me tipping over in my chair>>
    3 points
  30. If anything, Garlick deserves to be starting more games with the pop he's shown recently... unfortunately CF is probably a stretch for him. I guess put Kep in CF and Garlick in RF?
    3 points
  31. Cave is going to play every day for the foreseeable future. I’m having a hard time wrapping my head around it at the moment.
    3 points
  32. 2 innings, 2 HRs, a foul pop and 5, that's right 5, strikeouts. Wow. Just Wow.
    3 points
  33. And... Sano strikes out. Now 25 SOs in 54 ABS.
    3 points
  34. I would like to take this opportunity to thank Bally Sports for preventing me from watching Shoemaker pitch and Cave play CF. I’m setting the over/under on Sano ks at 2.5. And I will bet the over. Go get em fellas.
    3 points
  35. Thank the lord Waddell is gone. Looking forward to watching Larnach.
    3 points
  36. The universe didn't have to be so quick about disproving this hypothetical!
    3 points
  37. Runs have been optional. Launch angle is the goal.
    3 points
  38. This is a fantastic point that should be applied to almost any statistical breakdown, whether sports, the economy, healthcare outcomes, customer value, etc. The median is almost always a closer indicator of the most meaningful findings than the mean is.
    3 points
  39. The Angels DFA future Hall of Famer Pujols . We start Sano and Cave. Pujols .198/.250/.372 5 HR 12 RBI Sano .113/.299/.226 2 HR 4 RBI Cave .160/.241/.253 1 HR 11 RBI For Comparison: Tortuga .313/.308/.484 3 HR 11 RBI Gee! Should we sign Pujols? Just keep trotting Sano and Cave out there? Trade Tortuga for Pujols? Are the Angels that much better they don't need someone putting up numbers like Pujols? But the Twins need two guys worse than Pujol this season? Plenty of blame for FO and Rocco to share if you ask me.
    3 points
  40. Five games and Five losses yesterday throughout the system, and the bullpens were responsible for at least 3 of them. Not good.
    3 points
  41. If we remove the 5 worst games, we then have: Scored 10+ Runs: 0 Times Scored 9 Runs: 1 Time Scored 8 Runs: 1 Time Scored 7 Runs: 0 Times Scored 6 Runs: 2 Times Scored 5 Runs: 1 Time Scored 4 Runs: 2 Times Scored 3 Runs: 8 Times Scored 2 Runs: 5 Times Scored 1 Run: 0 Times Shutout: 0 Times That’s 13 games out of 20 where we score 3 or fewer, which is even worse. Sano may very well come around. I do like Kirilloff, he’s a legit MotO bat. But the offense was bad all last year, putrid in the playoffs, and bad so far. I see it as quite optimistic to predict that it will turn around. Nobody has been in sync.
    3 points
  42. If you are going to discount the best five games, you have to discount the worst five games. But my point was that I think the offense is going to be fine. Sano is better than this and will flip a switch and start hitting. Kiriloff is a legit middle of the order bat. We have enough weapons and depth to be a pretty potent unit. Pitching, bullpen in particular, is going to drag the team down all year.
    3 points
  43. Curses are not real. And Eddie is exactly replacement level, hate to say it. If Eddie can get “clutch” hits so can Donaldson, Cruz, Buxton, Arraez, and Kirilloff.
    3 points
  44. Just some food for thought: let's see what the new MLB/MLBPA agreement looks like (the current one expires after this season) before we factor "compensation picks" or "qualifying offers" into any equation. I suspect both of those things are gone or drastically reduced starting in 2022. But I obviously don't know either.
    3 points
  45. Is it OK to give 100% of this to the players?
    3 points
  46. It’s rarely pretty at the end for the legends... Derek Jeter put up -1.5 WAR his last 2 seasons with an OPS below .600. A-Rod got the abrupt release just like Pujols after he was batting .200 and .598 OPS. We were pretty fortunate to see a decent Torii Hunter at the end of his career! Edit: Jim Thome too. Paul Bunyan in disguise!
    2 points
  47. Hey don’t leave out “Twins offense in late innings” vs “Tigers offense all the time”. Twin unstoppable forces versus immovable objects on both sides of the ball.
    2 points
  48. Battle for the Bottom, Guessing we dont see Buxton again till july at the least , At least we get to watch SANO- - ,
    2 points
  49. Not trying to send anyone down a rabbit hole, I was genuinely curious. I found this list of the top 100 all-time deals by total value and clicked the years column to sort them by length: https://www.spotrac.com/mlb/contracts/sort-value/all-time/limit-100/ I think just about everyone on this list was significantly ahead of Buxton's durability, at the time they signed their deals. JD Martinez missed time but he had been an OF and was signing to become a primary DH. Ellsbury had a reputation of missing time, but when he signed his 7 year deal, he basically had 4 seasons equal to Buxton's lone "full" season so far -- he had missed one full season and another half season, but wasn't consistently held back every year at the time. Unless Buxton suddenly channels Cal Ripken Jr. between now and the end of 2022, I think the market takes durability into account enough to prevent him from getting an 8-year deal. He can still get big money and a good number of years, but probably short of 8. Correa could be an interesting comp, although I think at least part of the reason that he and Judge haven't signed extensions is their lack of durability so far.
    2 points
  50. The Cubs overpaid for Darvish? I would assume then your argument is that no pitcher is worth the contract he got?
    2 points
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