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  1. So you think burning down the precinct house was people trying to kill cops? Or a symbol to kill cops? The aim wasn’t to kill cops or send a message cop killing was the agenda. No one was hurt or killed. It’s a symbol of burning down the system, the blue culture that has allowed the murdering of black men. Of course there are good cops, but why don’t more stand up to this and work to change the system here? There were four police officers at that scene ... to subdue an unarmed man who committed a non-violent crime involving a $20 forgery. Four. And not one of them stopped this, despite the screams from onlookers. And the stop involved a gun drawn and pointing at George Floyd’s head, and ended with him on the ground, in handcuffs, gasping for air and saying his Mother's name until he was dead. And then at a peaceful protest downtown, tear gas was used. After decades of examples of this, being unheard, while I don’t condone the violence, I understand it, particularly the burning of the precinct house, after an arrest wasn’t immediate.
    6 points
  2. There's reason to think false-flag operatives are involved. You've seen the video of the white guy with the hammer knocking out store windows, right? Umbrella Guy didn't react favorably when some peaceful protesters followed him. The police already felt it a good idea to disavow a connection to him. An affordable-housing construction project burning down likewise is better explained by outside malice than by idiocy. Pain? Grief? Anger? A sense of injustice? Just, "rioters". This paints a picture of apathy that I don't imagine you really intended.
    6 points
  3. Former mayor RT Rybak has fingered the head of the Policeman's Federation as a villain in the problems with the Minneapolis Police Department. This seems to be in part political (Kroll is a Trump guy), but the Federation has robustly defended their own and also used "Warrior" training methods, which include (as I understand it) the knee-on-the-neck move to restrain those that are arrested.
    3 points
  4. No but the fact that there were four bad cops and zero good cops on this particular call about a stupid $20 bill suggests there are way more bad ones than we’d previously suspected. If it was logistically possible, I’d be in favor of replacing the entire MPLS police department and letting the good ones reapply only after a thorough investigation of their past behavior and psychological evaluation. Doesn’t sound possible though.
    3 points
  5. As a Blue Wahoos host mom, this is great news! I miss my “sons” this year, but at least they will get paid. Thanks Twins!
    3 points
  6. As Governor Walz said (paraphrased), "I understand why people of color won't believe anything we say until justice is brought to them". Words are nice. Justice is the answer.
    3 points
  7. I recently took some time to remember Mike Marshall over on my YouTube channel.
    3 points
  8. When I read Brock's post, I read it has him advocating for doing such a thing, not realizing it had already been done. That said, think burning down a precinct house is going to eventually kill a lot of people, and it won't just be cops. It's not like the armed police are going to typically step aside and let it happen. . To your other points, I wholeheartedly agree.
    2 points
  9. I'd like to see the Center Fielder who moves Buxton to a corner...
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  10. Wonderful news. We could use some good karma.
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  11. Actually, I think there is a place for it. Certain crimes are deserving, in my book. But, given that a locality doesn't provide for that punishment, I do not favor what amounts to vigilante justice. Particularly when it's the governmental body itself winking at it. And I don't believe in torture. Hopefully this doesn't wind up being a tangent to this thread, but I did want to clarify in light of your response.
    2 points
  12. That is exactly what I was saying, hardly ever does anyone talk about gold gloves first when talking about a hall of fame career. I mean Rafael Palmero won a gold glove and I think he only played like 28 games in the field that year. I know Hunter's gold gloves were earned for the most part, but so many of them aren't. So to talk about his gold gloves first probably means that his counting stats don't quite add up. Otherwise those would be the first things mentioned and then they'd say oh and he also won this many gold gloves.
    2 points
  13. So let's start a war and kill off a bunch of good cops because of the bad? Look, there's good reason to be angry here. I'm not going to argue that. But for someone who seems concerned about loss of life in other positions, this is an odd take. I think it's quite fair to want to take that anger out on the person who did it. That was a heinous crime and should be punished accordingly, but focusing the anger on others who are innocent make the situation much worse. I don't think every Minneapolis cop is a bad one, do you?
    2 points
  14. I'm guessing you and I don't agree on Capital punishment, so I'll simply leave that at that. I will never feel sorry for a murderer, and I don't feel sorry though for a cop that continued to use excessive force even after he had subdued his suspect. Cops are supposed to be protectors of the people and should be held to higher standards, not a judge, jury, and executioner... In this case, that's what he was, and I don't have a problem with him receiving the same fate... but it won't happen regardless, so I guess we can drop that... But back to your other points, I'd agree that the 3rd degree charge is there so that it sticks. If there's true history to the two, then yes, I suspect you'll see higher charge (and probably should)... There's a bigger problem here that also tends to fall through the cracks. Governments rarely fire anyone, even for cause, and local ones are no different. This particular officer had a bit of a history here too, and nothing was done about it. Not to mention that Minneapolis PD has had a bit of a bad history in this area over the last few years... one would think that there would be some serious attempts to clean house and establish a more professional corps. It's sad that this has not happened yet.
    2 points
  15. Apparently Chauvin and Floyd once worked for the same employer. It's unclear whether they knew each other. It could be that part of the reason it took so long to file charges is that the investigation for motive will be time-consuming. I could see second-degree murder if this was a "well, well, look who we have here" situation. First-degree, if it turns out that the counterfeit bill situation was cooked up by the officers themselves. People are understandably impatient, so the third-degree charge probably is what the prosecutors are sure will stick. There will be a long time before proceedings will go to trial, and I presume that the charges can be modified in light of new evidence. I hope haste doesn't cause justice to be less than fully served with a first-degree charge if premeditation was involved. On the other hand, I can completely understand skepticism unless and until charges are brought. This charge at least increases the chances that the crime won't be swept under the rug. All that said, I take issue with what I think you're implying about after he's convicted. Knowingly putting a prisoner in a situation that will result in torture or death is what barbaric countries do. Minnesota hasn't had capital punishment since 1911; jail must not become a de facto firing squad.
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  17. After reading the 2005 season summary that is part of an excellent series on TD I was forced to think about second base where 2005 demonstrated the difficulty we had for many years. Here is a summary of our highs and lows: Billy Martin was our 2B in the first year in Minnesota and would last one year before becoming a coach and manager and then going to the Yankees again and again and again. If only he would stop hitting marshmallow salesmen. Bernie Allen had five years of average play (239 BA). In 1960, Allen led the Boilermakers to a record of 4-4-1 (2-4 Big Ten) and wins over #12 Notre Dame, Ohio State and #1 Minnesota Jerry Kindall was there for the championship with a career 213 batting average. His fame came in Arizona as their coach winning 860 games and three College World Series championships over 24 seasons (1973–1996). Then came ROD CAREW and he might have had a full career with us if Calvin Griffith had kept his racist mouth shut. Here is a summary from Wikipedia - "The greatest contact hitter in Twins history, he won the 1977 AL Most Valuable Player Award, setting a Twins record with a .388 batting average.Carew appeared in 18 straight All-Star Games and led the AL in hits three times, with his 239 hits in 1977 being twelfth most at the time. He won seven AL batting titles, the second most AL batting titles in history behind Ty Cobb, and on July 12, 2016 the AL batting title was renamed to the Rod Carew American League batting title." To make matters more painful he got his 3000th hit against Frank Viola! And what was it that Calvin said --"I'll tell you why we came to Minnesota. It was when we found out you only had 15,000 blacks here. Black people don't go to ballgames, but they'll fill up a rassling ring and put up such a chant it'll scare you to death. We came here because you've got good, hardworking white people here." Danny Thompson - An All-American at Oklahoma State he was diagnosed with leukemia at age 26. He said, “You don’t have time to get down,” he said. “You’ve got to keep your head up and go right at it.” After and excellent rookie season he slid over to SS and Carew went back to 2B. He died in 1976. Bob Randall - A lifetime 257 hitter who came to the Twins from the Dodgers and played all his major league games with the Twins (460) and took over 2B as Carew was again moved to 1B. He was with us five years and went on to be a college coach. Rob Wilfong - His claim to fame is that he lead the American League in sacrifice hits in 1979. He hit 262 in six years with the Twins and was traded to the Angels. Currently he is a scout for the Detroit Tigers (I hope he is finding some better players for them now). John Castino - he was moved to 2B in 1982. He led the league in fielding percentage at 2B in 1982, but if the switch to 2B was supposed to protect his back it did not work. He was out in 1984 when back fusion ended his career - as a person with back fusion I can sympathize. Tim Teufel - known for the Teufel shuffle at bat - a wiggle of the butt His best years would be with the Mets when he was at 2B for the World Series. He is currently their goodwill ambassador and minor league coach. He hit 265 in his six years with the Twins. He was traded for Billy Beane and two others. If only we had moved Beane into the front office and off the field! Steve Lombardozzi - he played in the 1987 World Series and hit .412 with a home run in Game 5. He hit 233 in five seasons with the Twins. In 1986 he led second basemen in fielding percentage. Wally Backman and Tommy Herr - Backman was traded for from the Mets where he was platooned with Tim Teufel. He hit 231 for us. "The Mets sent him and Mike Santiago to the Minnesota Twins for Jeff Bumgarner, Steve Gasser and Toby Nivens, none of whom emerged as a major leaguer.The Mets sent him and Mike Santiago to the Minnesota Twins for Jeff Bumgarner, Steve Gasser and Toby Nivens, none of whom emerged as a major leaguer." That year we also traded for Tommy Herr from the Cardinals, Herr announced that he didn’t really want to be in Minnesota. Backman was brought in to replace Herr and Backman announced that he was thrilled to be with the Twins and bought a house on Lake Minnetonka. Kent Hrbek said, “Tommy Herr never wanted to play here, so he didn’t fit in with the rest of us." Then he added, “Backman does fit in. You can see the difference just in the fact that Wally wants to have fun. Already, Backman and (Dan) Gladden are pulling pranks on each other.” Backman is a minor league manager with an excellent resume. Al Newman - 231 Twins average, he went on to be a coach with the team. He was acquired in a trade where we gave up pitcher Mike Schade (who?). He was allowed to leave as a free agent after 1991 and eventually ended up coaching the St Cloud Rox. Chuck Knoblauch - if we ignore some statements and actions and personality he might be the next greatest second baseman for the Twins after Rod Carew. Rookie of the year, part of the 1991 World Series team. Wiki says, "During the 1994–96 seasons, Knoblauch batted .312, .333, and .341, respectively, won the AL Gold Glove Award at second base in 1997, and stole over 40 bases in three consecutive seasons." Twins fans became irate when he requested that he be traded. When he returned he was booed, bottles and hot dogs were thrown at him. With the Yankees he developed the yips - he could not throw and that was the beginning of the end. He played 12 years, seven with the Twins where he had a 304 career average. His post baseball career in marred by his physical abuse of his former wife which came as he was about to be named to the Twins HOF. He was also named in the Mitchell report for HGH. Todd Walker - a member of the National College Baseball Hall of Fame was a first round draft pick who never prospered in MN and I blame Tom Kelly who seemed to resent the college degree and accomplishments of Walker. Walker his 285 for the Twins in five seasons and his career did better after he left us. He is now on the New England sports network and I was shocked to hear him when I tuned in on a game when I was working in Maine. He was acquired from the Twins in Theo Epstein's first trade. A quiet, studious and serious player "He really took baseball serious," Matt Lawton said. "Everything he did, he's always talking about hitting. He'd play a video game and he'd compare that video game to anything about hitting. He'd bring up something about hitting fastballs, hitting breaking balls." "Some of his former teammates in Minnesota said Walker's glove wasn't the only reason he was in Kelly's doghouse. Their stormy relationship led to him being traded to Colorado in July 2000. Lawton said Kelly wasn't particularly fond of first-round picks. Walker, who had an outstanding collegiate career at LSU, was the eighth overall pick in 1994. Lawton said it didn't take much for a first-round pick to rub Kelly the wrong way, citing pitcher Todd Ritchie and first baseman David McCarty as examples." https://www.courant.com/news/connecticut/hc-xpm-2003-03-30-0303300603-story.html "You'd have to ask him all about that, but it certainly seemed that way," Walker said. "I certainly didn't do anything to warrant the way I was treated by him on and off the field. He had his good moments, and he certainly had his bad moments." Jay Canizaro - I have to admit this is the first of the second basemen I do not remember. In two years he hit 255 and went back to the minors. Luis Rivas - Venezuelan - a free swinger who was supposed to take over the base and become the man of the future pairing with Guzman at SS. But think of the free swinging of Rosario with no power and less contact! Six seasons with 262 average and 307 OBP and 383 slugging. Nick Punto - a Gardy favorite - the opposite of Walker this was a guy who hustled, got dirty, wanted to play, had a smile and attitude that made him a lovable piranha. But would you trade Walker for Punto - no way. He played for us for seven years and hit 248, 323 OBP, 324 Slugging. Luis Castillo - Dominican Republic - had a 299 BA for two years with the Twins. 720 OPS. He was with the Marlins for both their World Series. In 2007 he set a major league record for consecutive games at 2B without an error - 143. In August 2019, Castillo was cited on charges related to a drug trafficking and money laundering operation - he was not convicted. Alexi Casilla - Dominican - His biggest contribution was giving up his number so Jim Thome could have it. In seven years he hit 250 for the Twins with a 639 OPS. Orlando Hudson - Hudson hit .268 with a career-low .710 OPS. Hudson founded the C.A.T.C.H. Foundation, a 501c3 organization that seeks to provide resources and a support system for youth coping with autism. Brian Dozier - our third best second baseman in Twins history (my judgment). A member of the Southern Mississippi college team that played in the 2009 college world series. He started as a SS as so many players do and found a home at second. He was a Twin for seven years - hit 248/325/447 - which would be much better if we took his last five years - his HR totals per year are - 6,18,23, 28,42,34. I was say we got rid of him at the right time. He had peaked for us and although he continues to play his top HR since being traded is 20. Notorious for great half years paired with lousy halves it took patience to get the best from him. He became the first second baseman to hit 40 home runs. Jonathan Schoop - we hardly knew you although your 256/304/473 slash line fits many of our historic 2B men. Good luck in Detroit and say hi to Gardy. Luis Arraez - we hope he is the future. His 334 BA certainly makes us think of another great - Rod Carew. Let's hope flash-in-the-pan is something you never hear. I am very excited by him and his potential.
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  18. Yahoo: https://sports.yahoo.com/twins-outfielder-max-kepler-apologizes-for-controversial-photo-amid-george-floyd-protests-230841299.html Max Kepler apologized for posting a photo of himself wearing a Blue Lives Matter mask. In his apology, he said, To be completely fair to Kepler, I wouldn't have known what the blue line meant. Knowing Kepler, I fully believe that he didn't know what the mask meant and certainly wouldn't have posted a photo with it if he did. Not really Twins news at this point, but I just don't want to hide from posting topics just because they aren't positive, or in this case aren't really even baseball related. It's obviously just really unfortunate timing with the events in Minneapolis this week.
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  19. If it's not broken, don't fix it. I can't be the only one on the board that coached.
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  20. I do have trouble with it, especially since much of this is coming from people who live outside the state. Their motivation of this causes me great concern, and who is funding them and encouraging them to incite this violence. Why would people who are most oppressed be burning their own shops and businesses? The answer is ... they aren’t.
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  21. A crazy game but my favorite moment of the year, the Actual Trevor May raids the stream to check on how the Virtual Twins are doing. https://clips.twitch.tv/SpinelessSuperTitanSwiftRage
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  22. Indeed. And those unwilling to make the distinction remain part of the problem.
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  23. What do you see as the problem? What do you mean by justice? It would help if we could understand each other better. I will add that it’s something of a miracle that only a couple people have lost their lives across the country the past couple nights. Keep that in mind. This tells me that this fight isn’t about hating each other. It’s about uprooting an unjust system. (That’s my short version of it, anyway.
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  24. I really think the investigation into police brutality needs to be taken out of the hands of people who are too close to the ones being investigated. Way too many of these investigations have led to the issues being swept under a rug with some obvious concerns about conflicts of interest... I wonder if it would be better if the state were take the investigation and have it run by people outside of Minneapolis... and keep it VERY public. As for the force themselves, it tends to be a very military culture as a lot of ex-military are hired into those roles. I don't think the skill sets needed in the armed forces necessarily overlap. While some degree of overlap can be good, there's definitely a problem there...I personally think a "don't fire until fired upon" should be something the police forces should be living by as opposed to the current "I thought he had a gun", and if you aren't psychologically capable of being able to handle that kind of life in danger stress, then you have no business carrying a badge and gun. As well, there are plenty of non-violent de-escalation techniques that can be taught. To be honest though, I don't think your typical academy covers those types of techniques, and do to the political nature of policing can be discouraged (full disclosure, my sister is a cop, and could tell you stories of some of that). Ultimately, to change the culture as it is, large number of people are going to have to be fired and replaced... that has to start at the top though, and sadly, it won't be instantaneous.
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  25. It seems to me that one good place to start would be to restructure the Police Conduct Review Panel. http://www.ci.minneapolis.mn.us/civilrights/policereview/WCMS1P-101250 From their website: "The Police Conduct Review Panel is comprised of eight civilians appointed by the Mayor and City Council and a pool of sworn panelists selected by the Office of the Chief. After a complaint investigation is concluded, it is submitted to the Panel for review. Two civilians and two sworn panelists review the case, discuss it, and submit a recommendation on the merits to the Chief of Police." It seems to me that in light of the prior complaints against the officer and the fact that it appears that he was never effectively disciplined, the "watchdog" panel needs to be changed so that the civilians outnumber the police members of the panel, and that the mayor and city council need to appoint more people of color to the panel. I also wonder whether the chief of police should be fired for not adequately addressing the prior complaints. I understand that police have a dangerous job and that they need some latitude in protecting themselves on the streets. But I have read that other jobs are more dangerous. https://www.cnbc.com/2019/12/27/the-10-most-dangerous-jobs-in-america-according-to-bls-data.html I believe that there are a lot of things that can be done to reduce the incidence of police brutality. Previously I believed that body cameras would provide an effective deterrent, but now I think that was somewhat naive. Now I think that we need to look at having better civilian review boards, better training, more restrictions on the use of force (for example, limits on what can be done to restrain someone who is already handcuffed) and more accountability for the mayors and other politicians who talk a good game but don't actually do much to change the system. At the moment, I understand the need to express outrage and grief, but I also think that this is a good time to take a look at what can be done to make lasting changes that will greatly reduce the problem. I wonder what my fellow Twins fans might suggest in this regard.
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  27. 5/30/20: Minnesota Twins (35-23) @ Chicago White Sox (27-31) 1:10pmCT Catch-up We had a Grand Slam from Encarnacion, we had a position player pitching for the first time all season in Miguel Sano, and we had a barn burner in game one that went the way of Chicago 15-6. Today's game happens to fall on a Saturday, where the Twins are 8-1 this season and must really prove a point that it's their favorite day of the week. The White Sox on a 5 game winning streak, the Twins looking to even the series, should be a good one. Pre-game 12:45pmCT Where to watch. Virtual Twins Network AL Central Standings 1. Twins 35-23 2. Indians 31-28 3. Royals 30-29 4. White Sox 27-31 5. Tigers 23-35 Starting Pitchers Chicago: Gio Gonzalez* 2-7, 7.18 ERA, 52.2 IP, 42 K'sMinnesota: Homer Bailey** 5-1, 1.90 ERA, 66.1 IP, 44 K's*=Gio Gonzalez: Last start against Minnesota 4/11/20 (7.0 IP, 5 H, 1 ER, 6 K's season high, and the W in a 9-2 White Sox victory). **=Homer Bailey: 2nd in AL in ERA & WHIP, (1.90 and 0.95 respectively). Minnesota Batting Order** RF Max Kepler .238 BA, 16 HR, 33 RBI SS Jorge Polanco .286 BA, 8 HR, 39 RBI C Mitch Garver* .326 BA, 19 HR, 41 RBI 1B Miguel Sano .294 BA, 19 HR, 44 RBI DH Nelson Cruz .257 BA, 12 HR, 36 RBI LF Eddie Rosario .259 BA, 9 HR, 27 RBI 3B Josh Donaldson .241 BA, 4 HR, 16 RBI 2B Luis Arraez .312 BA, 1 HR, 9 RBI CF Byron Buxton .237 BA, 6 HR, 18 RBI*=Mitch Garver: 2nd in AL, OPS (1.082) **=Twins Offense: 1st in AL as a club in SLG (.483, 114 doubles with Rosario leading club with 15, 6 triples, and 100 Bombas with Garver and Sano tied for team lead with 19 a piece). Chicago Batting Order SS Tim Anderson .269 BA, 5 HR, 20 RBI 3B Yoan Moncada .271 BA, 6 HR, 28 RBI 1B Jose Abreu .252 BA, 3 HR, 19 RBI LF Eloy Jimenez* .314 BA, 20 HR, 45 RBI CF Luis Robert** .333 BA, 5 HR, 12 RBI DH Edwin Encarnacion .214 BA, 13 HR, 35 RBI C James McCann .273 BA, 18 HR, 60 RBI in 2019 All-Star campaign, 0-5 this season. RF Nomar Mazara .274 BA, 8 HR, 23 RBI 2B Danny Mendick .181 BA, 3 HR, 13 RBI*=Eloy Jimenez: 1st in MLB, HR (20). **=Luis Robert: AL Rookie of the month and well on his to win award for May leading all qualified rookies in Batting Average with .333 and OPS with .947 Bomba Tracker - 2020: 100 - 2019 through 58 games: 106 Storylines Chicago is not only one win away from taking the series over Minnesota for the first time this season, but extending their already season high winning streak of 5 games to 6 today. Feels like we say this everytime, but the unlikely hero of the season for Minnesota will toot the rubber again in Homer Bailey. We've boasted over his stats earlier in this post but he's out for some revenge here in game two as Bailey had one of his worst starts of the year his last time out against Chicago (5.2 IP, 4 H, 3ER, 2 BB, 4 K's). My whole goal of this project has been to try and provide entertainment and your daily fix of baseball at a time where we so desperately miss it. With all that is going on in Minneapolis right now, we will try and lift your spirits and provide a fun distraction to your otherwise stressful afternoon.
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  28. Fair enough, we can kill the tangent.
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  29. It needs an overhaul, though I don't see a scenario where it can be immediate. These things usually aren't unfortunately. One would think that some of the previous incidents with Minneapolis PD would have started this process, but it hasn't, and for each of the ones making the news, there's plenty of other things that likely didn't make the news b/c someone survived. It has to start at the top though. This is a cultural change. Top level leaders all need to be replaced and they need to have the authority to cut anyone not buying into the new culture they need to establish. That's how organizations change. The problem with something like this is that it's mostly political. Chances are the people at the top don't have the faintest clue (and that's before we talk about skillset) on how to restructure an organization... and chances are that even if they were to be replaced tomorrow, their replacements wouldn't either.
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  30. Nice to see the U's 1979 Student Body President Runner Up getting mention. Let's throw Ron Washington into the mix.
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  31. There will be no game. Baseball is dying sport. I think what's being missed here is that you have a work stoppage right now, and most definitely another one in 2022 at a time where the sport as a whole is losing appeal to the younger generations.... not to mention that very few people, no matter what side they fall on in this argument, are going to spend money on a sport after listening to billionaires dicker with millionaires over finances. Again, my frustration with all of this is that baseball has a unique opportunity to drive in fans at a time where people would watch b/c their out of netflix reruns and espn great games of all time series to watch. There's a beautiful opportunity right now to bring in new fans to a sport that badly needs them, and everyone wants to play hardball. Not smart.
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  32. The owners cannot legally do this. They would lose their antitrust exemption and the draft would be thrown out. There'd be no MLB.
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  33. Bombo Rivera Rich Chiles John Candelaria Terry Felton Ron Jackson Pete (Where the) Redfern (Grows) Bob Gorinski
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  34. Proud to be a Twins Fan! Fantastic news
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  35. MLB embarrassing itself. On both sides. Objects in mirror (NHL, soccer) closer than they appear. Collapsing under it’s own weight. Owners unwilling to come out behind for a year despite many years of coming out well ahead...a union dominated by the far right end of the salary bell curve...those making too much money in any one year (and in many cases, already set for multiple generations) to be incented to compromise for a half-season, or even to play at all, under the circumstances. There’s probably a deal to be made with certain owners and a class of players. But between MLB ownership and this union? Seriously doubt it. And I’m starting not to care. Let them all stay home. Next season too. However long it takes for both parties to figure out they need us more than we need them.
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  37. I’ve long been quick to criticize the way this squad operates financially. Signing Donaldson, and now this, has gone a long way in getting me to think the worm really has turned. The team should get plenty of good PR. And, you know, it’s a good thing on a human level. Keeping a lot of families from total ruin. I’m guessing part of it is confidence that they’ll be playing this year. But, whatever it takes. They’re stepping up regardless.
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  38. Lyman Bostock Larry Hisle Jim Eisenrich Mickey Hatcher Tim Tufeul Les Straker John Castino Mark Funderburke Luis Rivas
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  39. Glenn Borgmann Jim Holt Vic Albury Ray Corbin Dick Woodson Joe Decker Grady Alderman
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  40. Alex Cole. I wish I could have seen what she saw wearing those massive glasses.
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  41. Dan Serafini Jason Maxwell Marcus Jensen Danny Ardoin Jay Canizaro Warren Morris Javier Valentin That turn of the millennium era is full of guys to fill a list like this.
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  42. Just another example of the Twins being cheap, eh? Thanks for bringing this news to us, Seth. As for a minor league season? Have a feeling the Twins are going to have a couple or even three teams playing. See them putting together groups of 30-40 players who will get together in Ft. Myers for a spring training type situation for four to six weeks. Probably break them into groups with one being AA-AAA, a second A and a third the kids who would be at rookie league. May play games against themselves, or against the Red Sox down the street if they have anyone there. And who knows, maybe the AAA squad will go a bit longer and play some or all of their games at Target Field.
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  43. My favorite baseball card ever - 1969 George Mitterwald.
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  44. Trov

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    The number of games is not an issue. The pay per game will be. The main argument by owners is they will lose a large amount of money if they have games at full prorated play and no fans. The players say full pay for play. From everything I have read, I do not expect any season this year. The sides are too far apart and the owners two plans they have mentioned the response has been hell no by players. The longer they wait to come up with a plan the less likely anything will happen. The fact that other sports have no real issues figuring out how they would be acting moving forward. They are all revenue sharing salary caps so they both have vested interest in having games. For MLB having full open market leads to both sides trying to get over on the other. We as fans talk all the times about over value or under value contracts. GM's try to get the under value contract and owners rejoice but overvalue contracts lead to GM's losing jobs. There will be no season. There had been angst over the last couple years leading to labor stop coming up, this just sped up the clock. I do not understand why each side is trying to get the public support, because really the public does not care who gets more money, we want baseball. In all sports all we want to is it to be affordable and that we can see it. We do not care if the owners get all the money, or the players. We just want to be entertained. We are talking about large amounts of many for all invovled. This is not a strike of workers trying to make a living wage for their family and public can boycott where the labor can get different jobs. Players have one way to get paid, work for the MLB or go over seas to lessor paying leagues. If you want to play in America and get paid well, you have to work with MLB. If owners want to make money they have to work the players. Both are stubborn, and only the fans are hurt.
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  45. I just became a Padres fan. Anything less than what they’re doing is absolutely ridiculous. To pay your minor leaguers through the season is a couple of million dollars tops. That’s nothing. To hell with any owners who don’t do this.
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  46. Not necessarily. You're forgetting scalpers secondary markets. When the owners graciously lower ticket prices in response to salary concessions, someone will step in to play arbitrage. Free markets, remember? It won't cost any less to attend a game, for all intents and purposes.
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