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    Andrew Thares

    As they usually do against the Minnesota Twins, the New York Yankees lineup came to play tonight, as they scored nine runs on fourteen hits, four of which left the ballpark.

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    Judge and Stanton Clobber Dobnak

    It sure feels like a long time since the Twins threw Randy Dobnak in Game 2 of the ALDS against this Yankees lineup. In that game, Dobnak gave up four runs in 2+ innings pitched. Tonight didn’t go much better for the struggling right-hander, as Aaron Judge and Giancarlo Stanton tee’d off on him. Together, Judge and Stanton combined to go 5-for-6 off Dobnak with three home runs and two doubles.

    In the first, it was Aaron Judge who got the home run derby started, as he cleared the fence in left-center field to put the Yankees up 1-0.

     

    The Yankees added another run in the second thanks to back-to-back two out hits, the latter being an RBI double from Brett Gardner that put the Yankees up 2-0. The third inning is where the Yankees busted things open. Aaron Judge ledoff the inning with a double that was followed by a Gleyber Torres walk. This set the table for Giancarlo Stanton who promptly blasted a no-doubter to straight away center field.

     

    After a scoreless fourth, the Yankees lineup went back to taking batting practice off of Rany Dobnak in the fifth. The inning started with a Gleyber Torres walk that preceded Gincarlo Stanton’s second home run of the game. This one just barley clearing the scoreboard in right-center field.

     

    Following that Stanton home run, Gio Urshela ripped a base hit up the middle, but didn’t stay on the bases long as Rougned Odor followed that up with a double-play groundout. Just as Dobnak looked like he was about to get out of the inning, he served up his fourth home run of the night, this time to Miguel Andujar.

     

    Kyle Higashioka followed that up with a single, which finally closed the book on a rough night for Randy Dobnak. Griffin Jax came in and needed just one batter to finally get the Twins out of the inning.

    Polanco and Sano Both Take Gerrit Cole Deep

    In what was an otherwise shutdown start from Yankees ace, there were a couple of bright spots from the Twins lineup as both Jorge Polanco and Miguel Sano connected on a Gerrit Cole fastball, taking him deep for a couple of solo shots.

     

     

    Twins Bats Awaken in 4-run 9th

    It was a little too late for a comeback, but the Twins bats did show a little bit of life in the bottom of the 9th, as they entered the inning trailing by a score of 9-2. Alex Kirilloff got things going with a one out triple that just narrowly missed clearing the fence in center field. He then came in to score one batter later on a Miguel Sano single. After an Andrelton Simmons groundout, which advanced Sano to second base, Gilberto Celestino picked up his first career MLB hit, as he laced a line drive up the middle. 

     

    A wild pitch from Yankees reliever Brooks Kriske brought Miguel Sano in from third, and allowed Celestino to advance to second. Later in that same at-bat, Jorge Polanco connected on his second home run of the game, this time off the foul poll in right. This was just the second career multi-homer game for Jorge Polanco, and the first since 2017.

     

    The comeback effort fell short, however, as Josh Donaldson flew out to right to end the ballgame.

    No Drama Between Cole and Donaldson

    There was a lot of drama heading into tonight’s ballgame surrounding comments that Josh Donaldson made in regards to Gerrit Cole’s spin rates in light of the MLB cracking down on pitchers using illegal substances on the baseball. Well known New York sports radio personality Michael Kay shared his two cents on the situation earlier today.

     

    In the end, nothing played out on the diamond, as Cole never threw at Donaldson. Instead Cole just shut Donaldson’s bat down, as Donaldson went 0-for-3 with two strikeouts against Cole.

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    What's Next?

    The Twins and Yankees wrap up the three game series Thursday Night at 7:10 pm CDT, as the Twins look to avoid the sweep with J.A. Happ facing his former team, while the Yankees will counter with Michael King.

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    14 minutes ago, MMMordabito said:

    Reasons aren't excuses.  If he couldn't execute pitches due to the finger ailment, then he shouldn't have been out there.

    Fire Rocco.

    Couldn't agree with you more.  And with that problem, get him out of the game earlier. 

    Don't know what they are doing with Jax.  Someone will correct me if I am wrong, but hasn't he been a starter throughout his minor league career?  

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    5 minutes ago, roger said:

    Couldn't agree with you more.  And with that problem, get him out of the game earlier. 

    Don't know what they are doing with Jax.  Someone will correct me if I am wrong, but hasn't he been a starter throughout his minor league career?  

    Yes, Jax has been a starter in the minors. That's why they used him yesterday to get through multiple innings. Earned himself another look and may get a spot start or 2. I'm guessing he's sent back to the minors today, though, so they can add a usable arm to the pen. Welcome to the life of a borderline prospect.

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    1 hour ago, rv78 said:

    Nothng will change until they start signing players like Bauer and Hendricks. Yes they are monster contracts but you get what you pay for and right now the Twins are paying for crap.

    All you need to do is find a local businessman with a net worth with three commas (that's billions for those who are wondering), a passion for baseball, and a willingness to let others do all the "baseball stuff." There should be a bunch of them in the Twin Cities to pick from, right?

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    2 hours ago, rv78 said:

    Nothng will change until they start signing players like Bauer and Hendricks. Yes they are monster contracts but you get what you pay for and right now the Twins are paying for crap.

    So you're upset that Donaldson's big deal isn't working out how you'd like and you think the answer to that is signing Trevor Bauer, fresh off a career year where he was clearly cheating, to a 3 year $102m deal? That's how you save the Twins? Sign a guy for 40m this year? And Liam Hendriks on top of that? You want a starter and a closer for over 50m a year and you think that saves this Twins team? Even if they just added those 2 guys on top of these team and pushed their payroll to almost 200m you'd still be looking at a losing team. That ignores the fact that it's not realistic for the Twins to have a 200m payroll so they'd have to get rid of a number of guys and you're looking at your 2 mammoth contracts and a bunch of AAA players.

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    The next Buxton could be in Baltimore. Cedric Mullins made a Buxton-highlight reel diving catch by covering half the state of Maryland! He is turning heads with his glove and he is in the top 3 leaders in hits in the AL. It wasn't that long ago he was going so poorly, the O's demoted him directly to AA and not AAA. He has been relatively healthy too. Watch for this guy.

    Polanco seems to have found his bat finally. Gordon needs to be in there. simmons isn't going to be a Twin very long. Lets see what Gordon can bring.

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    4 hours ago, Aichiman said:

    I'm finished with this team.  I've followed them loyally since 1982, when I moved to Minneapolis.  And I left Minneapolis 23 years ago, but I still followed the Twins.  But I'm done; it's over.  This team will do nothing until ownership changes.  And I'm not willing to wait. I'm going back to my roots.  "Let's Go Mets!" will be my new/old mantra.  I'll use Trevor May to ease the transition.   I could say best of luck; but it'd be an empty gesture.  Instead, I invite you to follow my lead and dump this sorry franchise.

    Have you seen the Mets record over their lifetime?  They are not the Yankees.

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    2 hours ago, FanFromPhilly said:

    I'm frustrated by this team but I don't understand these comments.  The Twins have won Word Series in 87 and 91 and the Mets have won in 69 and 86.  Why are the Twins the sorry franchise?

    I don't get these either, sure this team is absolutely frustrating but was nobody watching from 2011-2016? Those years with few good players and no quality prospects in the minors close enough to make any positive impact. I saw Yohan Pino pitch a game in person and thankfully we haven't hit that low yet. Be frustrated with this team, and feel free to criticize the many criticizable aspects, but let's be rational as well.

    17 minutes ago, MMMordabito said:

    Fire Rocco.

    Stop this, it's not going to happen, nor should it. What team would fire a manager coming off two straight division titles after a few admittedly bad months? An incompetently run team, that's who. I swear we're starting to sound like the Strib comments section on this site.

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    Some teams have a certain swagger -- the Rays, the Red Sox, the Astros, the As. They have it even when they don't have stars. The Twins don't but it is something to aspire to. The Rays are the best example. They do not have stars comparable to Stanton, Judge, Cole, et al, yet they go into Yankee Stadium and kick butt. It's a mysterious thing but it can be done.

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    2 hours ago, spycake said:

    You misremembered a bit. Dobnak was pulled in his playoff start with *nobody out* and the bases loaded in the third. “Hit a ball hard” or not (I don’t recall that part, but there was a leadoff double in the 1st), Dobnak’s line was 2 IP (so 6 outs), 6 hits, and 2 BB, and no strikeouts. I didn’t like the decision to bring in Duffey again so soon after the Yankees saw him in game 1, but Dobnak’s performance was not particularly effective either, even if it was better than last night.

    I also misremembered no balls being hit hard. The double in the first was ripped come to think of it. 

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    10 minutes ago, Aerodeliria said:

    I also misremembered no balls being hit hard. The double in the first was ripped come to think of it. 

    You're not incorrect in that there was some controversy about taking Dobnak out so early in that game. I may have allowed him to try getting another DP grounder, or gone right to someone like Rogers.

    Just found a recap video -- the 3 hits they show off Dobnak (double and single in the first, and a single in the third that chased him) were all hit pretty hard. Although nothing compared to what Duffey allowed! Baseball Savant should have the exit velocities too but I don't want to bum anybody out futher. :)

    https://cuts.diamond.mlb.com/FORGE/2019/2019-10/05/b7e1eb02-3f25953f-0b387047-csvm-diamondx64-asset_1280x720_59_4000K.mp4

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    1 hour ago, terrydactyls said:

    All you need to do is find a local businessman with a net worth with three commas (that's billions for those who are wondering), a passion for baseball, and a willingness to let others do all the "baseball stuff." There should be a bunch of them in the Twin Cities to pick from, right?

    A "businessman" that has amassed a billion dollar net worth is not going to operate at a loss which is what the post you responded to is hoping to find.  The constant complaining about spending is misguided.  The appropriate thing to complain about would be that the Twins have half the revenue of the Yankees/Dodgers and a lot less than than several others.  To complain they don't spend money they don't have is the equivalent of calling a guy cheap who makes $50K/yr because he does not drive a $100K vehicle.

    Small/mid market teams never operate this way. Are they all incompetent.  Tampa has consistently been successful trading for players before they are established.  Tatis Jr. was acquired for James Shields who was bad to horrible after the trade.  Chicago's team was bolstered considerably because they traded away very good established players.  Boston with an enormous budget compared to the Twins let Betts go.  Where are they now?  The Angels spent a fortune and and stink even after hitting the draft jackpot in Pujlos.  How have they been doing.  The Phillies signed Harper / Degrom and traded for Realmuto.  How did that go for them?

    The bottom line is that we don't have the revenue to sign the "Bauers".  Therfore, we can complain they don't spend money they don't have or we can embrace the need to draft / trade and develop.  People with average incomes don't drive a Ferrari.  

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    In the beginning the Twins had a perfect set up. They brought in Simmons to complement Dobnak high GB rate that should turn into low run production by opponents which translates into wins. The problem is that Dobnak found his new strike out pitch in his new slider. The FO went crazy, they wanted to push his slider and transform him into a SO pitcher. The result was and is to develop his slider, not to capitalize on his efficient sinker in crucial game winning spots.

    They have him throwing that slider far too much and the opposition is whacking it. They need to allow Dobnak to go back to his efficient sinker and go to his slider only in key situations. Why can't they see that?

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    As I mentioned earlier, I went on to other things after Stanton's first homer, so talk about a ripped fingernail is news to me. Looking at Dobnak's numbers, he is no better than Shoemaker or Happ and has never had the sustained success that those guys have had. I fear Randy is a one-pitch pitcher (moving sinker) and that doesn't cut it either in the rotation or the bullpen. I really want to know what happened to the slider that was one of the big topics in spring training.  

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    21 minutes ago, stringer bell said:

    I really want to know what happened to the slider that was one of the big topics in spring training.  

    Well, a couple that he threw to Stanton are lodged in the bleachers at Target Field. Does that help??

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    3 hours ago, chpettit19 said:

    Yes, Jax has been a starter in the minors. That's why they used him yesterday to get through multiple innings. Earned himself another look and may get a spot start or 2. I'm guessing he's sent back to the minors today, though, so they can add a usable arm to the pen. Welcome to the life of a borderline prospect.

    They used him on back to back days, which is the issue. According to the radio broadcast, hes never pitched back to back in his professional career.

     

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    4 hours ago, roger said:

    If you want to learn more about the fingernail problem Dobber has, read today's Strib.  Good explanation of the problem and why he couldn't put pressure on some pitches like normal because of the one finger.

    And those of you who like to blame the Pohlads, should also read the Strib where they talk about Stashak going on the IL.  He had been optioned to the Saints and was set to be placed on their AAA IL, where he would be paid a couple thousand a week.  Rather than do that, they jumped through whatever hoops and returned him to the Twins and placed him on the Twins IL, where he makes $ 3,050 a game...or about ten times more.  In my opinion that is an employer who cares about their employees and puts the dollars behind it, regardless of how big their loss was last year and will likely be again this year.

    Being ‘kind’ or ‘fair’ or respectful with how you treat those in your organization has nothing to do with commitment to winning and willingness to take on significant financial risk in pursuit of championships. They’re two completely different things. The overwhelming majority of criticism of ownership found on this site is in relation to the latter. We can all agree that it’s good to root for an organization that will make a move like they did for Stashak. At the same time, let’s not pretend that even a dozen such moves would amount to even a decimal point on the financial statements.

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    2 hours ago, Major League Ready said:

    A "businessman" that has amassed a billion dollar net worth is not going to operate at a loss which is what the post you responded to is hoping to find. ......

    I disagree. Some businessmen will. Some won't. Most won't. Nobody owns a MLB franchise as their first source of income (or at least, they shouldn't). It is a glorified hobby. Sure, some, and even most, businessmen owners will treat it solely as a business. But the best owners, and the most human owners, know it is a side gig, and one to treat the players well and even lose a bit of the unneeded millions and billions of excess money and enjoy life and spend the rewards that they acheived while they are alive, and HAVE SOME FUN. Life is not always about not operating at a net loss. Money changes everything, though, and to some, it just makes them more greedy. I have known some very unhappy very ultra-rich people. Pohlads could be having a lot more fun than they are having with the Twins, and it wouldn't hurt a soul, including them.

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    4 hours ago, chpettit19 said:

    Yes, Jax has been a starter in the minors. That's why they used him yesterday to get through multiple innings. Earned himself another look and may get a spot start or 2. I'm guessing he's sent back to the minors today, though, so they can add a usable arm to the pen. Welcome to the life of a borderline prospect.

    Back to back games in relief? I don't mind them bringing him in yesterday for multiple innings. But yesterday? and back to back days. Just irresponsible in my opinion.

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    5 hours ago, chpettit19 said:

    So you're upset that Donaldson's big deal isn't working out how you'd like and you think the answer to that is signing Trevor Bauer, fresh off a career year where he was clearly cheating, to a 3 year $102m deal? That's how you save the Twins? Sign a guy for 40m this year? And Liam Hendriks on top of that? You want a starter and a closer for over 50m a year and you think that saves this Twins team? Even if they just added those 2 guys on top of these team and pushed their payroll to almost 200m you'd still be looking at a losing team. That ignores the fact that it's not realistic for the Twins to have a 200m payroll so they'd have to get rid of a number of guys and you're looking at your 2 mammoth contracts and a bunch of AAA players.

    I listed Bauer and Hendricks simply as examples. Why do the Twins always sign players that had excellent careers when they are at the END of their careers like Donaldson and Cruz. 

    If you read my next post you'd understand that paying for crap will get you crap. Maybe they should try a different approach like trying to sign Free Agents in the prime of their careers when they are top performers, not when they are washed up, along with the other players that won't/don't make a difference.  Example: Gerrit Cole 7-3, Randy Dobnak 1-6.

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    1 hour ago, h2oface said:

    I disagree. Some businessmen will. Some won't. Most won't. Nobody owns a MLB franchise as their first source of income (or at least, they shouldn't). It is a glorified hobby. Sure, some, and even most, businessmen owners will treat it solely as a business. But the best owners, and the most human owners, know it is a side gig, and one to treat the players well and even lose a bit of the unneeded millions and billions of excess money and enjoy life and spend the rewards that they acheived while they are alive, and HAVE SOME FUN. Life is not always about not operating at a net loss. Money changes everything, though, and to some, it just makes them more greedy. I have known some very unhappy very ultra-rich people. Pohlads could be having a lot more fun than they are having with the Twins, and it wouldn't hurt a soul, including them.

    That theory is popular with fans who don't think a little thing like a significant revenue disadvantage should stop them from spending like a large market team.  I guess the theory is the big markets would make a good profit and the small market owners should take a loss.  Not too many guys signing up to buy mid/small market teams under that premise. 

      I would like to have an owner that was indifferent about financial concerns but it's certainly don't expect someone to spend 10 of millions/year to entertain me.  There is also the fact that their actions (spending) are quite consistent with revenue across all the MLB teams.  They consistently make a solid profit except when the team rapidly declines while they have a high payroll.  In those cases, that problem is rectified quickly which speaks to their financial focus / goals.  The Twins spending is relatively consistent with other teams of equal revenue.  They all operate to make a profit.  We should also keep in mind that the value of the team is completely predicated it's ability to produce a profit.  These guys are not going to spend a billion plus to lose money annually as well as reduce the asset value.

    Perhaps more to the point, if they were willing to basically donate 10s of millions to a cause, I certainly hope they would donate to a better cause than a couple more wins for their baseball team.  It is mind boggling to me to suggest they spend (donate) 20 or 30+ million a year to get 3 or 4 more wins in a given year when that money could be allocated to MUCH more worthy causes.

    I would add, if the theory is owning is fun therefore they should be willing to forgo a profit, why do we so readily accept the players focus on getting every dollar they can as they did during Covid?

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