GAME THREAD: 6/22/22, Twins vs Guardians, 6:40 PM CT

[tony&rodney]

1 minute ago, LVTwinsfan said:

In the words of Steven Tyler….Dream on

Sure, Will do.

[glunn]

I am watching the postgame and it looks like some of the fielding was bad.  Also, our starter went only 4 innings.  That said, it appears that the bullpen also played poorly.

[Aggies7]

Just now, tony&rodney said:

This is a common line but let us all know who exactly is a high prospect. FWIW, Royce Lewis would no longer be considered a prospect because the league knows his experience at the major league level. If you are talking about players on the 26 person roster or Lewis, maybe there is a point. The Twins are not going to give up a bunch of prospects for a nobody. We don't need to worry about Falvey trading our five favorite prospects for some loser relief pitcher.

Well you’re not going to pick up 3 (minimum) quality arms for nothing either 

[tony&rodney]

1 minute ago, Aggies7 said:

I honestly feel bad for pagan. Could have been a great turnaround night but his manager was asleep at the wheel and it turned into another very negative outing 

Agree with this thought. Pagan was gassed.

[IndyTwinsFan]

11 minutes ago, Vanimal46 said:

This loss stings. 10 runs wasn’t enough for a win. 2 blown leads by the pen. Seemingly no internal options to help keep the bullpen afloat until trades become a reality. 

Agreed.  And it's likely to get a lot worse before it gets noticeably better. 

[Tlaker]

6 minutes ago, h2oface said:

yup.

And how about the bonehead ump call missing the bounce? The spirits are not on our side.

Small potatoes…. this manager is way over his head! No baseball smarts! All computer smarts doesn’t work!

[Tlaker]

1 minute ago, IndyTwinsFan said:

Agreed.  And it's likely to get a lot worse before it gets noticeably better. 

Including the clueless manager! Trade him for a 15th rounder

[IndyTwinsFan]

9 minutes ago, William K Johnson said:

I can't watch anymore of this.

 

Glad I'm not alone in this mindset 

[RpR]

Until the Twins field some that resembles a constant set of players ever game, this is what it is going to look like.

Why was Garlick not starting instead of Gordon?

[Montdak]

They always seem to go on a losing streak after a bad beat.  This is two of those in a row..  I can’t watch tomorrow.  Box scores only indefinitely.  Painful to watch stupidity.  Change ups floating in high like they’re on a tee. Did we forget Larnach throw to the wrong base letting the go ahead run into scoring position.  Oh well we probably would have lost another one in extras under the dumb extra innings rule and got someone injured in the bargain.  Probably Buxton who finally comes in defensively too late after missing a chance to make that game saving catch.  But I’m not bitter.

[KirbyDome89]

4 minutes ago, Aggies7 said:

I honestly feel bad for pagan. Could have been a great turnaround night but his manager was asleep at the wheel and it turned into another very negative outing 

The dude melted down and couldn't get a 4th out before blowing a 3 run lead. Are we really clamoring for Griffin Jax or Tyler Duffey? 

[RpR]

2 minutes ago, KirbyDome89 said:

The dude melted down and couldn't get a 4th out before blowing a 3 run lead. Are we really clamoring for Griffin Jax or Tyler Duffey? 

The fielding melted not the pitcher.

[Aggies7]

6 minutes ago, KirbyDome89 said:

The dude melted down and couldn't get a 4th out before blowing a 3 run lead. Are we really clamoring for Griffin Jax or Tyler Duffey? 

Clamoring, no, but that 9th was predictable and I simply cannot believe someone else wasn’t ready to come into the game before it got that far

[ashbury]

Oh My OMG.

[KirbyDome89]

2 minutes ago, Aggies7 said:

Clamoring, no, but that 9th was predictable and I simply cannot believe someone else wasn’t ready to come into the game before it got that far

It's not like I'm shocked Pagan imploded. I've been critical of him for quite a while now, but the fact he was the best option to start that inning kinda says it all about this pen. If Rocco tugs him after the Ramirez hit maybe things go differently, maybe, but I'm not all that confident they would've. 

[Hosken Bombo Disco]

4 minutes ago, ashbury said:

Oh My OMG.

[TCC]

3 minutes ago, Hosken Bombo Disco said:

 

[Vanimal46]

4 minutes ago, KirbyDome89 said:

It's not like I'm shocked Pagan imploded. I've been critical of him for quite a while now, but the fact he was the best option to start that inning kinda says it all about this pen. If Rocco tugs him after the Ramirez hit maybe things go differently, maybe, but I'm not all that confident they would've. 

Correct. The last 2 fresh arms available were the mop up guys Duffey and Thornburg. Maybe Jax would have done better with a clean start to an inning, but I doubt it. It didn’t look like he had much to offer tonight. 

I don’t know where the assistance is going to come from internally. Alcala is still a couple weeks out if he doesn’t have another set back. Maeda feels like a major wish to be back pitching soon. Strotman has been a bust. Henriquez and Enlow are just 40 man filler not ready for prime time. 

[KirbyDome89]

6 minutes ago, Vanimal46 said:

Correct. The last 2 fresh arms available were the mop up guys Duffey and Thornburg. Maybe Jax would have done better with a clean start to an inning, but I doubt it. It didn’t look like he had much to offer tonight. 

I don’t know where the assistance is going to come from internally. Alcala is still a couple weeks out if he doesn’t have another set back. Maeda feels like a major wish to be back pitching soon. Strotman has been a bust. Henriquez and Enlow are just 40 man filler not ready for prime time. 

I don't think there really is any. I'm not counting on anything from Maeda this year, and I hope the FO isn't either. Who knows what version of Alcala is going to show up. The whole "2022 isn't a competitive year," narrative is starting to become a self-fulfilling prophecy of sorts with the issues regarding the pitching staff. It's a bummer. 

I'm with you on Cleveland too, they're not this good, and I don't expect them to "beat up," on the Twins next week. I guess in fairness other AL Central fanbases probably look at MN and think the same thing. 

[Peter]

Unacceptable loss 2nd night in a row. Sweep will happen.

[howeda7]

Fire Falvey for the Rogers trade alone. Then fire Rocco. Levine and Toby Gardenhire can see the ship the rest of the way down.