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The Berríos return - Austin Martin and Simeon Woods Richardson


Post any video, analysis, or information you have on either player here. Martin is currently a centerfielder/shortstop at AA. Woods Richardson is a right-handed starting pitcher, also at AA.

Austin Martin:

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Year Age AgeDif Tm Lg Lev Aff G PA AB R H 2B 3B HR RBI SB CS BB SO BA OBP SLG OPS TB GDP HBP SH SF IBB
2018 19 -1.7 Vanderbilt SEC NCAA   59 273 222 44 75 14 0 1 19 22 8 35 46 .338 .452 .414 .866 92 2 12 3 1  
2018 19 -1.4 Springfield PROS Smr   4 16 14 2 5 0 0 0 2 0 0 1 5 .357 .375 .357 .732 5   0 0 1 0
2019 20 -0.7 Vanderbilt SEC NCAA   65 323 268 87 105 19 4 10 46 18 5 40 34 .392 .486 .604 1.091 162 6 12 0 3  
2020 21 0.3 Vanderbilt SEC NCAA   16 69 53 15 20 6 0 3 11 3 1 10 2 .377 .507 .660 1.168 35 0 5 0 1  
2021 22 -2.0 New Hampshire AANE AA TOR 55 250 196 43 55 10 2 2 16 9 3 37 53 .281 .424 .383 .807 75 1 14 0 3 0
Minors (1 season)   Minors   55 250 196 43 55 10 2 2 16 9 3 37 53 .281 .424 .383 .807 75 1 14 0 3 0
College (3 seasons)   College   140 665 543 146 200 39 4 14 76 43 14 85 82 .368 .474 .532 1.007 289 8 29 3 5  
Other (1 season)   Other   4 16 14 2 5 0 0 0 2 0 0 1 5 .357 .375 .357 .732 5   0 0 1 0
All Levels (4 Seasons)       199 931 753 191 260 49 6 16 94 52 17 123 140 .345 .459 .490 .949 369 9 43 3 9 0
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Generated 7/30/2021.

Simeon Woods Richardson:

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Year Age AgeDif Tm Lg Lev Aff W L W-L% ERA RA9 G GS GF CG SHO SV IP H R ER HR BB IBB SO HBP BK WP BF WHIP H9 HR9 BB9 SO9 SO/W
2018172 Teams2 LgsRkNYM101.0001.562.6074200117.1155314026000711.0967.80.52.113.56.50
201817-3.4MetsGULFRkNYM101.0000.001.5952200111.192004015000471.1477.10.03.211.93.75
201817-3.7KingsportAPPYRkNYM004.504.502200006.063310011000241.0009.01.50.016.5
2019182 Teams2 LgsA-A+NYM610.3753.804.3926260000106.296524562401261154321.1258.10.52.010.65.25
201918-4.9DunedinFLORA+TOR32.6002.542.5466000028.11888170290001070.8825.70.32.29.24.14
201918-3.8ColumbiaSALLANYM38.2734.255.062020000078.17844375170971153251.2139.00.62.011.15.71
202120-4.8New HampshireAANEAATOR24.3335.766.551111000045.14233295260671072021.5008.31.05.213.32.58
All Levels (3 Seasons)914.3914.094.7844412001169.115390771254021921127051.2228.10.62.911.64.06
AA (1 season)Minors24.3335.766.551111000045.14233295260671072021.5008.31.05.213.32.58
A+ (1 season)Minors32.6002.542.5466000028.11888170290001070.8825.70.32.29.24.14
A (1 season)Minors38.2734.255.062020000078.17844375170971153251.2139.00.62.011.15.71
Rk (1 season)Minors101.0001.562.6074200117.1155314026000711.0967.80.52.113.56.50
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Generated 7/30/2021.
 
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5 minutes ago, VandyTwinsFan said:

The two slot in as our #2 (Martin) and #3 (SWR) prospects. That gives us five top 100 prospects, all of which are at AA or higher. The coming year should be fun with all the potential talent debuting. 

Martin is instantly the Twins best prospect by a solid margin given the injury to Lewis.

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2 minutes ago, Brock Beauchamp said:

Martin is instantly the Twins best prospect by a solid margin given the injury to Lewis.

MLB has Lewis at #13 and Martin at #16. Martin has had shoulder issues and that's why he was moved to outfield. He has less power than Lewis. Just pointing out reasons they may have Lewis higher.

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1 minute ago, VandyTwinsFan said:

MLB has Lewis at #13 and Martin at #16. Martin has had shoulder issues and that's why he was moved to outfield. He has less power than Lewis. Just pointing out reasons they may have Lewis higher.

Yeah, but quite a bit has changed since those rankings came out. Martin may have shoulder issues but he's also posting an .800 OPS in the high minors (AA). Lewis is still injured.

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4 minutes ago, VandyTwinsFan said:

MLB has Lewis at #13 and Martin at #16. Martin has had shoulder issues and that's why he was moved to outfield. He has less power than Lewis. Just pointing out reasons they may have Lewis higher.

He may have less power than Lewis but Lewis has less games played.  Throw injured players out of the rankings at least internally until they play x amount of games.  For some to project Lewis as MLB roster 2023 seems pretty far fetched.  Not saying Martin is knocking on the door for next year but next year should be fun to see how guys play out when they play

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KLaw is definitely a fan of Martin. #12 on his prospect list as of a week ago, and he's a tough grader. Noted that his drop in power is likely due to a change in approach after sustaining a hand injury in May. That makes a lot more sense to me than deciding that he's not going to develop the same power potential originally projected!

 

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12 minutes ago, umterp23 said:

He may have less power than Lewis but Lewis has less games played.  Throw injured players out of the rankings at least internally until they play x amount of games.  For some to project Lewis as MLB roster 2023 seems pretty far fetched.  Not saying Martin is knocking on the door for next year but next year should be fun to see how guys play out when they play

I think Martin is knocking on the door for a callup at some point next year. Depending what you want out of him. I'd bet a lot of money he'd hit better in MLB right now than Celestino.

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19 minutes ago, chpettit19 said:

I think Martin is knocking on the door for a callup at some point next year. Depending what you want out of him. I'd bet a lot of money he'd hit better in MLB right now than Celestino.

I'd be shocked if he isn't up next year. 

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2 minutes ago, Mike Sixel said:

I'd be shocked if he isn't up next year. 

Will be interesting to see what happens with service time rules in the new CBA and whether or not he has a shot at the opening day roster. Same with Lewis. If they trade Buxton and Donaldson (reports are they're listening to offers on both) then next year is lost and if service time manipulation is gone I'd like Lewis and Martin starting up the middle somewhere for the Twins next year.

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2 minutes ago, chpettit19 said:

Will be interesting to see what happens with service time rules in the new CBA and whether or not he has a shot at the opening day roster. Same with Lewis. If they trade Buxton and Donaldson (reports are they're listening to offers on both) then next year is lost and if service time manipulation is gone I'd like Lewis and Martin starting up the middle somewhere for the Twins next year.

I hope Lewis' bat can catch up quickly enough to see him next year. He has missed *a lot* of reps at this point.

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2 minutes ago, Brock Beauchamp said:

I hope Lewis' bat can catch up quickly enough to see him next year. He has missed *a lot* of reps at this point.

Lewis seems more like an "instincts and athleticism" type hitter than a "technical" hitter which lends me to the thought he could bounce back relatively quickly. Get in a bunch of winter ball games and spring training games. If the Twins are trying to compete it's a different story, but if they really break this thing down and just bring a bunch of AA/AAA players then I'd like to see Lewis next year.

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Yeah I really like Martin the more I look. No wonder Jays fans are nervous. 

But Twins fans have a front row seat on how bad pitching can derail a season. Scouting a pitcher's stat line is the worst way to scout a pitcher, except for all the other ways (- Churchill on democracy quote) and I don't know how Woods Richardson stands out from the other guys in the system. Sure he's young for his level, but that doesn't seem to serve him well and probably means he's still a ways off.

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10 minutes ago, Hosken Bombo Disco said:

Yeah I really like Martin the more I look. No wonder Jays fans are nervous. 

But Twins fans have a front row seat on how bad pitching can derail a season. Scouting a pitcher's stat line is the worst way to scout a pitcher, except for all the other ways (- Churchill on democracy quote) and I don't know how Woods Richardson stands out from the other guys in the system. Sure he's young for his level, but that doesn't seem to serve him well and probably means he's still a ways off.

I put a lot of stock in a prospect's age versus level. Sure, a team can promote a guy prematurely, just to impress people like me, I suppose. But you can't fake performance.  JA Happ the past few starts is exhibit A that there is no floor to how badly a pitcher's performance can go. If Simeon has an ERA in the 5's, at AA, at age 20, this ain't chopped liver by any means, and he isn't really failing.

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I honestly like this trade. Berrios has been a good pitcher and very durable but I don't see much more upside in the next 3-5 years from him. I know we need pitching but this is a good haul. Twins better light up the FA market with pitchers this winter. Lot's of holes to fill in the starting rotation.

 

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From Keith Law at The Athletic - "That’s an everyday player with strong OBP skills and a small chance for some power, and a potentially above-average reliever with a small chance to start. For a year and a half of Bérrios, that sounds about right, even if these two prospects are more famous than their skills merit right now." 

Little rough of a review there. He's got some good info and reasoning in the article. I def recommend a subscription to The Athletic. 

 

 

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26 minutes ago, VandyTwinsFan said:

From Keith Law at The Athletic - "That’s an everyday player with strong OBP skills and a small chance for some power, and a potentially above-average reliever with a small chance to start. For a year and a half of Bérrios, that sounds about right, even if these two prospects are more famous than their skills merit right now." 

Little rough of a review there. He's got some good info and reasoning in the article. I def recommend a subscription to The Athletic. 

Law isn't afraid to commit to an opinion, right or wrong.

He's often a nice counter-balance to the overall positivity of other analysts.

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1 hour ago, twinssporto said:

I honestly like this trade. Berrios has been a good pitcher and very durable but I don't see much more upside in the next 3-5 years from him. I know we need pitching but this is a good haul. Twins better light up the FA market with pitchers this winter. Lot's of holes to fill in the starting rotation.

 

Yeah - I mean I think it's Maeda and that's it. Twins really hoping Dobnak can get back to what he was in 2019, but it's gonna be 2022 and that seems like a long, long time ago right about now.

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