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5 minutes ago, howeda7 said:

Maybe for now. But if they launch this app, they lose most leverage with the few cable companies and DirecTV that still carry them. So I would expect most of them to drop BSN when their next contract is up.

But I'm told by others that $23/mo is too high. :)

There are definitely a lot of factors around this. I wouldn't be surprised to see the whole thing scuttled before next spring. But it's interesting to think about.

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For those that think $23/mo is too high, you should look up north.

Canada's two major sports networks, Sportsnet and TSN, have each had a standalone streaming service for the past 3-5 years. They both advertise plans at $20/mo (or ~$17/mo billed annually), BUT due to split coverage and blackouts, hockey fans may actually need to subscribe to both to get their local team's games. (MLB and the USA aren't the only league and country with complicated blackout situations!)

There are other factors at play too, but $23/mo for a standalone BSN streaming service, with all regional Twins, Wild, and Wolves games (plus Lynx and Loons), seems roughly comparable.

TSN also has a "day pass" for $8, and Sportsnet a "7-day pass" for $10, to cater to more casual fans.

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Does anyone know when the Twins contract with BSN is up? I see this ending up with them streaming games on their own app and going back to having some games on local TV on Sundays etc. Possibly a joint venture with the Wild and/or Wolves as they tried to do with Victory Sports One until the Wolves demanded 50/50 sharing.

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14 minutes ago, howeda7 said:

Does anyone know when the Twins contract with BSN is up? I see this ending up with them streaming games on their own app and going back to having some games on local TV on Sundays etc. Possibly a joint venture with the Wild and/or Wolves as they tried to do with Victory Sports One until the Wolves demanded 50/50 sharing.

It looks like 2023:  https://www.twincities.com/2016/02/12/local-tv-deal-doesnt-hamper-twins-payroll-team-president-says/  but I couldn't find anything written in stone in that.

I agree a Victory Sports One scenario could happen and likely with the same results.  Streamers compete with the option to pay $0 so any option that doesn't immediately catch you as a reasonable price point is bound to fail and push people to piracy.  Of course, there is a moral dilemma with that, but so is giving any money to this company.  

Searching Bally Sports on Reddit will tell you a lot of people share your sentiments howeda and are generally aghast at the move.  (That's relevant because reddit is a bastion of cord cutting and streaming users.  In other words: your most likely potential customers)

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MLB needs to buy back the rights to their product, clean it up, nurse it back to health and then showcase it affordably and to the masses on any and every platform they can.

I mean, that's what they should do if the owners want the game to be around for more than another decade. If they'd rather make as much money as they possibly can for the next few years until the game is dead, I guess they should just keep turning a blind eye.

Casual baseball fans are not going to pay more than a nominal fee to watch baseball on TV. When only the diehard fans watch your sport, you become lacrosse.

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3 hours ago, nicksaviking said:

MLB needs to buy back the rights to their product, clean it up, nurse it back to health and then showcase it affordably and to the masses on any and every platform they can.

I mean, that's what they should do if the owners want the game to be around for more than another decade. If they'd rather make as much money as they possibly can for the next few years until the game is dead, I guess they should just keep turning a blind eye.

Casual baseball fans are not going to pay more than a nominal fee to watch baseball on TV. When only the diehard fans watch your sport, you become lacrosse.

Considering MLB can't quit making decisions that are ruining the game I can't trust them to fix a tv situation.

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15 hours ago, nicksaviking said:

MLB needs to buy back the rights to their product, clean it up, nurse it back to health and then showcase it affordably and to the masses on any and every platform they can.

I mean, that's what they should do if the owners want the game to be around for more than another decade. If they'd rather make as much money as they possibly can for the next few years until the game is dead, I guess they should just keep turning a blind eye.

Casual baseball fans are not going to pay more than a nominal fee to watch baseball on TV. When only the diehard fans watch your sport, you become lacrosse.

Never mind that television rights are the largest source of the sport’s inequity, too. 

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I'm between casual and serious fandom....and there is zero chance I'd pay to watch MLB if I couldn't get EVERY GAME. No blackouts. No exclusions. EVERY GAME. Even then, probably not (I'm cheap, and checking gamecast is enough for me). I'm not sure how sports succeed long term if people can't watch them and become fans.....but I think people have been typing that forever. Is boxing dead, or just enough people pay for it to last, even if the public largely doesn't care anymore like in the Ali or Tyson days?

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12 minutes ago, Mike Sixel said:

I'm between casual and serious fandom....and there is zero chance I'd pay to watch MLB if I couldn't get EVERY GAME. No blackouts. No exclusions. EVERY GAME. Even then, probably not (I'm cheap, and checking gamecast is enough for me). I'm not sure how sports succeed long term if people can't watch them and become fans.....but I think people have been typing that forever. Is boxing dead, or just enough people pay for it to last, even if the public largely doesn't care anymore like in the Ali or Tyson days?

This.  I've never understood the sports mantra of making it more difficult to consume their product.  I just don't get it.

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6 hours ago, Mike Sixel said:

I'm between casual and serious fandom....and there is zero chance I'd pay to watch MLB if I couldn't get EVERY GAME. No blackouts. No exclusions. EVERY GAME. Even then, probably not (I'm cheap, and checking gamecast is enough for me). I'm not sure how sports succeed long term if people can't watch them and become fans.....but I think people have been typing that forever. Is boxing dead, or just enough people pay for it to last, even if the public largely doesn't care anymore like in the Ali or Tyson days?

It doesn't kill you, but you enter firmly into the "niche" category.  Baseball has hit the gas on that track the last two years.  I thought I was doom and gloom predicting it would take 20 years!

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Sounds like Bally/Sinclair may not be able to do this (direct to consumer streaming)?

Manfred critical of Sinclair

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Asked about Sinclair’s claim that it is close to obtaining the necessary rights to launch a direct-to-consumer RSN service, Manfred said the accurate statement would be that Sinclair does not have enough digital rights from enough clubs in order to have a viable direct-to-consumer product. Manfred: "The other set of rights they've talked a lot about is gambling rights, they don't have those either. We have been clear with Diamond from the very beginning, this was not a late starting issue. We've been very clear with them from the beginning that we see both those sets of rights as extraordinarily valuable to baseball, and we're not just going to throw them in to help Sinclair out.”

Note that "Diamond" is Diamond Sports Group, the Sinclair subsidiary that actually operates the 21 Bally Sports networks including Bally Sports North. A recent report suggested that "Diamond Sports Group... could be headed into bankruptcy."

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