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GAME THREAD: Minnesota Twins at Detroit Tigers, 5/8/2020, 4:10 PM EDT (3:10 PM CDT)


Twins deserve every bit of this mess. They might want to note how many runs scored with 2 outs...on singles....not roundhouse swings for the fences. Once again, the pen fails bigtime.

I'm wondering, have the Twins come back late to win any game they have trailed past the 7th inning?

 

Detroit is having fun at the Twins expense.

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Donaldson can’t control what the pitcher on the mound does. Even if he cleanly transferred that ball, an out at home or first was far from guaranteed. It was an extremely difficult play.

I have to agree. Though it was frustrating to see him drop the ball after a great catch, I don't think he could have thrown the runner out at first. He was virtually sitting down as I recall.

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What is the meaning of this post? And you posted it twice. ??

I think the players deserve more criticism then they’ve been getting; Falvey and Baldelli have been getting ALL the blame.

 

With the bullpen, Johnson has a large part in it.

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Donaldson can’t control what the pitcher on the mound does. Even if he cleanly transferred that ball, an out at home or first was far from guaranteed. It was an extremely difficult play.

 

This we agree on. It was a difficult play. Very difficult. But that is his calling card. That is one we need him to make. That is what he is paid for. To make the extremely difficult play. To finish the extremely difficult play. Count me disappointed. With the pitching, we need Donaldson to deliver. All the way. 

 

And you know better than me how ridiculous defensive stats are most of the time. The official scorers give away hits, and seem to not believe in errors anymore. (Not that I think this play was an error, at all. Extremely difficult.)

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I think the players deserve more criticism then they’ve been getting; Falvey and Baldelli have been getting ALL the blame.

With the bullpen, Johnson has a large part in it.

I agree, but it seems that the players are getting a ton of criticism, and deservedly so.

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This we agree on. It was a difficult play. Very difficult. But that is his calling card. That is one we need him to make. That is what he is paid for. To make the extremely difficult play. To finish the extremely difficult play. Count me disappointed. With the pitching, we need Donaldson to deliver. All the way.

 

And you know better than me how ridiculous defensive stats are most of the time. The official scorers give away hits, and seem to not believe in errors anymore. (Not that I think this play was an error, at all. Extremely difficult.)

Advanced defensive metrics are not influenced by the official scorer. What he or she does is irrelevant to any metric worth a damn.
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Quibbling over a single ground ball today during the wreck of a season...something about deck chairs and the titanic 

 

When things boil over, things get magnified, eh? Stars need to be stars more often. Forgive me for expecting them to. Just trying to stay in the moment. I can't get into the total wreck...... 

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When things boil over, things get magnified, eh? Stars need to be stars more often. Forgive me for expecting them to. Just trying to stay in the moment. I can't get into the total wreck...... 

I’ve moved past the anger phase already, but I’m a jaded fan of all minnesota teams so I go in expecting failure for the most part. Had high hopes for this bunch but it’s painfully obvious it’s not going to happen. So now I’ll just enjoy the train wreck and try to interject a little humor. There won’t be many posters left around here soon so might as well get it in while I can 

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When things boil over, things get magnified, eh? Stars need to be stars more often. Forgive me for expecting them to. Just trying to stay in the moment. I can't get into the total wreck......

There’s nothing wrong with expecting stars to be stars. The stars get the blame for not being the stars.

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So for a player making the minimum you would be OK if he let it get by him?

 

That's what you say, apparently. Not me. I say what I say. I just wouldn't have the same expectations. Would you?

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Could no Mike Bell, no Derek Shelton and no James Rowson be contributing to this?

 

I really don't think having Mike Bell or Derek Shelton would have made this season better. Rowson on the otherhand, I do think had a lot of good influence on the lineup.

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Could no Mike Bell, no Derek Shelton and no James Rowson be contributing to this?

Possibly, but this team isn’t actually terrible at scoring runs, they’re terrible at scoring runs in specific innings, which is the weirdest **** I’ve ever seen and defies logic.
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