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These are all very fair points and I would definitely like to see more trade action from this FO.

Except it doesn’t really apply in the singular case of Baddoo (but perhaps made sense with others in the past).

There simply isn’t a market out there for decent prospects who haven’t played above A ball, haven’t really played in two years, and need to be added to the 40-man roster.

That’s a hard sell and a situation that probably doesn’t arise often if we don’t spend a year in a global panoramica.

 

I think we all would like to see some trades, but I agree, I don't think these trades are available to be had. We see fringe prospects MUCH closer to MLB ready like Lewin Diaz and Jalyin Davis only get average at best relief pitchers with only two months of control left. 

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To clarify my point, I'd like to use SD as an example. They are a team with a ton of prospects and big 40 man problem. Also they want to compete against LAD so they need to upgrade their pitching. They didn't go after FA because that wouldn't help their 40 man problem. They attacked the trade market. Using 4 prospects they landed Snell, using 7 players they landed Darvish (plus his private catcher for free) and 5 players to land Musgrove. That's 16 low valued players, (quite a few lotto tickets with non in their top 5 prospects) for 3 top of the rotation pitchers. Some may argue that Musgrove isn't that good looking at his stats but looking at under lying conditions and being SD most dominating pitcher out of the gate, I believe he is. Instead of going for the bragging rights to the rule 5 loser's award they made themselves highly competitive and helped their 40 man problem, now in the near future.
I'm not insinuating the FO is terrible and need to be fired. Their development is one reason why we have this talent. I'm just showing an area where we need improvement. Where we can protect prospects like Baddo and Wells until we are ready to play them or trade them. Another interesting point about Baddo is that he bats left where our others CFers batright.

You're also talking about an organization in San Diego with a potentially historically deep farm system. You say that they traded away "low-valued" players. Multiple players traded away were top 100-150 prospects in various lists this offseason by Fangraphs, PIpeline, Baseball America, etc.

The Twins right now are not a great comparison because their top 100 guys are all fairly close to the major leagues, but if the team chose to move Balazovic, Jeffers, and Lewis (pre-injury) to acquire pieces, I'm pretty sure the fanbase on here would not be so forgiving, yet a few of those guys ranked similarly across lists.

 

I will be the first to tell you that I was a huge fan of both Akil Baddoo and Tyler Wells. When I covered the Twins for Pucketts Pond, both ranked very highly in my org top 100 list, but I left Pucketts Pond after the 2018 season, and I've missed a combined 29 appearances in-game between the two of them, all by Baddoo in 2019. I've watched any video I could of either since, but there hasn't been anything to show that either made the type of strides that would have you anointing one of them as the next coming.

 

It's akin to the David Ortiz thing all over again. He went to Boston, where a hitting coach significantly changed his swing. He wasn't even signed to be their starting DH in Boston that season. No one thought Ortiz would become what he did. Player growth is never linear, and a team cannot protect everyone. For all you and I know, the FO had a deal lined up that was "crossing t's" away from being done that fell apart just ahead of the Rule 5 that would have filled up the 40-man. We won't know, and standing here and shouting about it after literally a week of play does no one good. Enjoy the success of both young men and cheer them on.

 

It hurt for years to watch Jermaine Dye on another team, knowing he could have been next to Andruw Jones in the outfield for the Braves, but that's part of baseball. I ended up working with a guy who hated the same trade initially because he was a fan of Michael Tucker and hated seeing him go. He learned to enjoy watching Dye with the Royals instead.

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I think we all would like to see some trades, but I agree, I don't think these trades are available to be had. We see fringe prospects MUCH closer to MLB ready like Lewin Diaz and Jalyin Davis only get average at best relief pitchers with only two months of control left. 

Just wait until you see the value Trevor Story brings in July. Rockies fans are going to cry and wish for an Arenado return.

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Just wait until you see the value Trevor Story brings in July. Rockies fans are going to cry and wish for an Arenado return.

 

It's a shame how poorly run that organization is. Unlike terribly run teams like Pittsburgh or Miami, it appears to be all incompetence and not greed. They've had so many controllable players that were peaking over the past three years they could have traded and reloaded and have been ready to compete already. That franchise looks doomed for a long dry spell.

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It's a shame how poorly run that organization is. Unlike terribly run teams like Pittsburgh or Miami, it appears to be all incompetence and not greed. They've had so many controllable players that were peaking over the past three years they could have traded and reloaded and have been ready to compete already. That franchise looks doomed for a long dry spell.

Sadly, the return for Story would be bad even for a well-run org just because he's an impending FA going into a CBA year, so teams will see him as just a two- or three-month rental.

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You're also talking about an organization in San Diego with a potentially historically deep farm system. You say that they traded away "low-valued" players. Multiple players traded away were top 100-150 prospects in various lists this offseason by Fangraphs, PIpeline, Baseball America, etc.

 

The Twins right now are not a great comparison because their top 100 guys are all fairly close to the major leagues, but if the team chose to move Balazovic, Jeffers, and Lewis (pre-injury) to acquire pieces, I'm pretty sure the fanbase on here would not be so forgiving, yet a few of those guys ranked similarly across lists.

 

 

 

I agree that SD has a vastly better farm system than us and their approach is different than ours, I envy them. Although there were some that could have ranged from med.- med./high range (especially in the Snell trade, a trade I wouldn't have done) but non in the Kiriloff/ Lewis (pre-injury) bracket, maybe Larnach to Balavich/ Jeffers/ Duran level. Darvish and Musgrove trade I'd rate those players mainly low level & lotto tickets and very doable trades. Trades we could've done better w/ players that are expendable. I wouldn`t trade Lewis because he's in a position which we desperately lack,Balavich/ Jeffers/ Duran would have to be a very good deal.

My point isn't to rate these trades but to point out the need to be proactive like San Diego to compete and help solve the 40 man problem.

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I agree that SD has a vastly better farm system than us and their approach is different than ours, I envy them. Although there were some that could have ranged from med.- med./high range (especially in the Snell trade, a trade I wouldn't have done) but non in the Kiriloff/ Lewis (pre-injury) bracket, maybe Larnach to Balavich/ Jeffers/ Duran level. Darvish and Musgrove trade I'd rate those players mainly low level & lotto tickets and very doable trades. Trades we could've done better w/ players that are expendable. I wouldn`t trade Lewis because he's in a position which we desperately lack,Balavich/ Jeffers/ Duran would have to be a very good deal.
My point isn't to rate these trades but to point out the need to be proactive like San Diego to compete and help solve the 40 man problem.

 

Patino was a top 20 prospect pre-2020. He was barely beyond rookie qualifications or he would be a top 20-30 prospect still. He'd be in the same ranking level as a Lewis/Kirilloff.

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Teams that expect to contend for the division and are trying to make a deep postseason run don’t fill their 40-man with players like Baddoo.

I wish him the best and hope he has a nice career but I’m not going to think too hard about the “loss”, nor am I going to make any declarations over a single home run. Nor should anyone else, frankly. It’s a nice couple of game stretch, good for him, let’s check back on this in a month.

Since Baddoo last hit a homer on 4/13, his slash is:

 

.100 / .151 / .240 / .391 OPS

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Just looked at his numbers after tonight's game: not pretty.

 

.192 BA

.724 OPS

4BB vs. 34K

He does have the 4 HR and 14 RBI. 11 of his 14 hits are for extra bases, including 3 triples. 2 SB.

 

Still regret losing him, and Ashbury is correct in that we ain't getting him back. That measley OPS is 3rd on the team!

 

Lots cheaper and more productive than Miggy.

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the name brant alyea ring any bells?

Yes he does and there is not any similarities between the 2 players other than they played baseball and were drafted in the rule v draft at some point in their career. In today’s game Alyea would have been a minor league free agent and not a draftee. He had played several years in the majors before being drafted. That is not Baddoo

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We're still not getting him back. :)

Twins FO should have called Detroit after the walk-off and demanded a ridiculous trade offer for DET to keep him w/o Rule 5 attachment (not sure if they can do that before he's exposed to waivers etc).

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Yes he does and there is not any similarities between the 2 players other than they played baseball and were drafted in the rule v draft at some point in their career. In today’s game Alyea would have been a minor league free agent and not a draftee. He had played several years in the majors before being drafted. That is not Baddoo

Alyea impressed his new team with a 4-for-4, 2 HR, 7 RBI performance against the Chicago White Sox. The Twins won the game 12-0, and Calvin Griffith may have thought he found the answer to his team’s troubles against left-handed pitching. Alyea gave Griffith and the Twins ample reason to believe that might be the case with a .415/.473/.774 April.

 

Unfortunately for both Alyea and the Twins the hot start was just that. He came back down to earth and batted just .259/.335/.468 the rest of the season. After a .177/.282/.241 performance in 1971, the Twins let Alyea go in the Rule V draft. He bounced around the league in 1972 attempting to find the magic that propelled him in April of 1970, but was never able to.

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Alyea impressed his new team with a 4-for-4, 2 HR, 7 RBI performance against the Chicago White Sox. The Twins won the game 12-0, and Calvin Griffith may have thought he found the answer to his team’s troubles against left-handed pitching. Alyea gave Griffith and the Twins ample reason to believe that might be the case with a .415/.473/.774 April.

 

Unfortunately for both Alyea and the Twins the hot start was just that. He came back down to earth and batted just .259/.335/.468 the rest of the season. After a .177/.282/.241 performance in 1971, the Twins let Alyea go in the Rule V draft. He bounced around the league in 1972 attempting to find the magic that propelled him in April of 1970, but was never able to.

No one shed a tear. When Alyea left as a 31 year old. Alyea was an acquired player who left as a rule 5 draftee and did nothing. There is no similarity of careers between Baddoo and Alyea

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Twins FO should have called Detroit after the walk-off and demanded a ridiculous trade offer for DET to keep him w/o Rule 5 attachment (not sure if they can do that before he's exposed to waivers etc).

The Twins can’t do anything to remove his Rule 5 restrictions. Baddoo would have to clear waivers first, with Rule 5 restrictions still attached, after which he would be removed from the 40-man roster and returned to the Twins org. At that point, he could be traded without restrictions just like any other non-40-man minor leaguer.

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The Twins can’t do anything to remove his Rule 5 restrictions. Baddoo would have to clear waivers first, with Rule 5 restrictions still attached, after which he would be removed from the 40-man roster and returned to the Twins org. At that point, he could be traded without restrictions just like any other non-40-man minor leaguer.

After waivers, isn't there an additional step that the player is offered back to the original team for half price? If the offer isn't accepted then the player would stay with the new team.

 

Or did the rules change in the last year or three? Too lazy to check and you seem to be on top of it. I'm a taker, not a maker, today. :)

 

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After waivers, isn't there an additional step that the player is offered back to the original team for half price? If the offer isn't accepted then the player would stay with the new team.

 

Or did the rules change in the last year or three? Too lazy to check and you seem to be on top of it. I'm a taker, not a maker, today. :)

 

You are technically correct, I was sharing the abbreviated version! I can’t recall any players that the original team refused to take back, since they no longer require a 40-man roster spot at that point. Maybe an extreme injury case like Nick Burdi?

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You are technically correct, I was sharing the abbreviated version! I can’t recall any players that the original team refused to take back, since they no longer require a 40-man roster spot at that point. Maybe an extreme injury case like Nick Burdi?

Or an extreme cheapskate team for whom $50K is a discussion point. :)

 

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Any other team can claim a Rule 5 and follow the same roster rules. If no one claims the player, he is offered back to the original team for a 50% refund of the Rule 5 monies. The team does not have to put him on their 40-man. Also, if no one claims and if the original team doesn't want him back, the team he started with can take him off the 40-man and bury him in the minors.

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Still SSS, but Baddoo is back hitting again, and in fact has the highest OPS in the lineup (which says more about Detroit’s lineup than Baddoo, in my opinion).

not a lot of hard hits or power the last few weeks, but drawing some walks and stealing some bases

 

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1 hour ago, Hosken Bombo Disco said:

Still SSS, but Baddoo is back hitting again, and in fact has the highest OPS in the lineup (which says more about Detroit’s lineup than Baddoo, in my opinion).

not a lot of hard hits or power the last few weeks, but drawing some walks and stealing some bases

 

Zero homers and a 1.100+ OPS over two weeks. That's a bit unusual, though only five starts. Was he injured or something?

Season Totals
Split G GS PA AB R H 2B 3B HR RBI SB CS BB SO BA OBP SLG OPS TB BAbip tOPS+ sOPS+
Last 7 days 3 2 9 6 1 4 1 1 0 2 1 0 3 0 .667 .778 1.167 1.944 7 .667 362 437
Last 14 days 8 5 23 17 3 7 1 1 0 4 3 0 5 5 .412 .522 .588 1.110 10 .538 173 210
Last 365 days 35 29 110 96 12 24 6 4 4 19 5 0 12 40 .250 .327 .521 .848 50 .370 100  
Provided by Baseball-Reference.com: View Original Table
Generated 5/27/2021.
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1 hour ago, Hosken Bombo Disco said:

Still SSS, but Baddoo is back hitting again, and in fact has the highest OPS in the lineup (which says more about Detroit’s lineup than Baddoo, in my opinion).

not a lot of hard hits or power the last few weeks, but drawing some walks and stealing some bases

 

He started off hot for a few games, did terrible for a very long stretch, now back to hot hitting.  The walks is a big thing for him as he was striking out at 50% clip for awhile and no walks basically.  He seems to be making adjustments which is what you need to do to survive at any level.  My guess is teams will adjust again to him and he will have to make his own again.  I wish him well, and if he was in the Twins organization still he would not have made a debut. 

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1 hour ago, Brock Beauchamp said:

Zero homers and a 1.100+ OPS over two weeks. That's a bit unusual, though only five starts. Was he injured or something?

Season Totals
Split G GS PA AB R H 2B 3B HR RBI SB CS BB SO BA OBP SLG OPS TB BAbip tOPS+ sOPS+
Last 7 days 3 2 9 6 1 4 1 1 0 2 1 0 3 0 .667 .778 1.167 1.944 7 .667 362 437
Last 14 days 8 5 23 17 3 7 1 1 0 4 3 0 5 5 .412 .522 .588 1.110 10 .538 173 210
Last 365 days 35 29 110 96 12 24 6 4 4 19 5 0 12 40 .250 .327 .521 .848 50 .370 100  
Provided by Baseball-Reference.com: View Original Table
Generated 5/27/2021.

Last 7 days, and PA in the single digits... the common problem of having the highest OPS on the team, but still not good enough to crack the lineup regularly 

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