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Dobnak Extension Brings Long-term Stability to Twins Rotation


The Dobnak deal may look like a steal for the Twins, and hopefully it will long term, but Randy knows how quickly he could get cut and be back to having a different career.  Sure, if he becomes a good starter, not even great, he will have cost him some money long term, but he is one TJ surgery from having to prove he can make a MLB roster at league min as well. 

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Knowing many are skeptical of Dobnak, I was surprised when I came here this morning and saw all positive vibes in this thread. Turns out, I just had to wait a while for the negativity to start.

 

Some things to keep in perspective:

 

1. This is a team-friendly contract. Dobnak will be very tradeable if things do not work out. 

2. Being a bullpen arm is not out of the question.

3. Good knuckleballers get better as they age. If he doesn't get better (heh, as if he has not been good), see above.

 

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As a former contract negotiation attorney, I love the positive upside and the limited negative downside of this contract and, as a current Statistics professor, I especially love this graphic. It is a very effective communication of the current contract status of our starters. I hope you'll send it to the FO and they can start using it if they don't already have one like it (although I bet they do--but hey, now we do too so let's keep using it as more of our young pitchers hopefully get signed to deals like this). Good work Nick!

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Knowing many are skeptical of Dobnak, I was surprised when I came here this morning and saw all positive vibes in this thread. Turns out, I just had to wait a while for the negativity to start.

 

Some things to keep in perspective:

 

1. This is a team-friendly contract. Dobnak will be very tradeable if things do not work out. 

2. Being a bullpen arm is not out of the question.

3. Good knuckleballers get better as they age. If he doesn't get better (heh, as if he has not been good), see above.

Don't understand the knuckleball comment?

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“Flexibility” is simply a product of developing a top-end starter once every blue moon, (and refusing to play anywhere near the top end of starting pitching free agency).

 

Still, it’s something to be thankful for in these uncertain times.

But for the grace of God, our favorite club could be saddled with the perennial dilemmas faced by Cleveland or Tampa Bay of whether to pay or trade for can’t-miss blue-chip prospects, their growing stable of all-star starting pitchers.

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I watched Dobnak's new slider a few days ago and was as blown away by it as the batters he faced. While I can't remember which OP they were posted in, I watched a couple hilights re-posted and was again just so impressed by what I saw.

 

What we have seen thus far in his short career...77 IP...is a guy who doesn't allow many free passes, doesn't allow big 3HR mistakes, battles, and induces a lot of ground balls. These are all positives that would seem to give him a legitimate floor option as a valuable long man who can piggyback and spot start with a ceiling as a solid 5th SP who might develop/grow enough to be a decent #4 with a little more experience.

 

Now, if he can maintain any sort of consistency with that new slider...and if you haven't seen it you need to...it could be very easy to see him as a legitimate #4 rotation piece with the potential to be a #3. Crazy? Not if look at what he's accomplished so far and how devastating the early returns of his new slider have been.

 

The first few years of his contact pretty much guarantee what he could receive through arbitration as a "good" pitcher. The option years should be a great value for the Twins if he's a quality #4 and nothing better.

 

Look, I am super pumped about the arms in the system. Over the next 2yrs, Duran, Balazovic, Canterino, Enlow, Sands, Winder and maybe Chalmers are going to reach the ML level to one degree or another. (Chalmers may still end up in the pen). And I am re-engaged in my optimism regarding Thorpe. I fully believe he is going to be valuable this season in a variety or roles and could be a legitimate contender for the 2022 rotation as well.

 

I am not predicting greatness for Dobnak, but I am pretty optimistic about a young SP with a new pitch that looks that damn good so far.

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