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GAME THREAD: 9/30/20 Minnesota Twins VS Houston Astros, 12:08 CDT


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Alright Twins fans, we already know what has happened in the past. 17 losses in a row, and it feels like even more somehow. The longest losing streak in all of North America for playoff losing streaks. My only wish is that I would've been betting on these games, and rolling over the winnings. However, today, the Twins have a chance to change that. Jose Berrios takes the bump, and a rookie makes his first ever start in the postseason. Buckle up, if today is like yesterday, it's going to be one hell of a ride where everyone ends up puking at the end.

 

The Pitchers - RHP Jose Berrios (5-4, 4.00 ERA, 68 K's, 63 IP) vs RHP Jose Urquidy (1-1, 2.73 ERA, 17 K's, 29.2 IP)

 

The Twins turn to Jose Berrios, who unsurprisingly, everyone on the ESPN family of networks thought was the Twins best pitcher this season. The thing is, he was far from it, and we saw why yesterday. King Kenta tightroped out of situations a few times, doing exactly what a pitcher in the postseason needs to do. Berrios is going to have to pitch one of the better games of his career, as he has never made it into the 5th inning during a postseason game. As for the Astros, they turn to a right hander who still qualifies as a rookie. Urquidy isn't going to dominate Twins hitters with anything, as he only records 5.2 K/9. If you take a look at the ERA, it looks solid. However, the underlying numbers don't back that up at all, as he has a FIP north of 4.70. 

 

Lineups

 

Twins

 

2B Luis Arraez L
CF Max Kepler L
DH Nelson Cruz R
LF E. Rosario L
1B Miguel Sano R
RF A. Kirilloff L
SS J. Polanco S
3B M. Gonzalez S
C Ryan Jeffers R

 

Astros

 

CF G. Springer R

2B Jose Altuve R
DH M. Brantley L
3B Alex Bregman R
LF Kyle Tucker L
1B Yuli Gurriel R
SS C. Correa R
RF Josh Reddick L
C M. Maldonado R

 

 

The Twins choose to switch some things up a bit, and the first thing you notice is that Byron Buxton is not in the lineup. That is obviously not good news, and nothing official has come out yet, but there are reports on the Twins beat that Buxton is 'not feeling well.' That is not great news for the most valuable player in the Twins lineup, one that is already missing JD. Instead of starting Jake Cave, who has a nice OPS of .870 this month, the club makes an aggressive move and starts Alex Kiriloff, a corner outfielder who just got promoted yesterday. I'm not going to rag on this move because we know what Jake Cave is, and Kiriloff has a higher ceiling, but it is interesting to see them make that decision. Jeffers gets another start behind the plate which is good, but I am sure he will only see 2 at bats for some odd reason. Houston chooses to go with the same lineup that won them the game in game 1. 

 

 

This Day In History - 2004: Thanks to Bernie Williams's ninth-inning two-run homer, the Yankees beat the Twins, 6-4, to clinch their seventh straight American League East Division title. It is also their 100th victory of the season, making the club only the fourth team in history (Braves 1997-99; Orioles 1969-71; A's 1929-31) to have three consecutive 100-win seasons.

 

Pick to Click - Kepler goes boom for a 2 run shot in the first

 

Go Twins!!!

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Uh... I have always been a big supporter of playing rookies, but giving Kiriloff his first start in a playoff game? I don't think that's a good move. I get that this lineup needs a kick in the pants desperately, but I'd much rather have Buxton out there. I could sympathize with the move if Alex had been given some ABs over the past few weeks and looked good (like Rooker, perhaps). I don't see this move panning out, but I'm hoping we can see some life out of Kiriloff's bat.

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Wow, no Buxton. 

 

Also starting a rookie that has never even seen a major league pitch. I don't know what to say. I will say though that so far, Rocco has shown to be a terrible postseason manager thus far. 

Maybe it'll turn out to be a stroke of genius!

 

But seriously, I'm surprised by the move as well. I hope Kirilloff makes us look like idiots for doubting the move, but given the Twins' inability to have nice things in the playoffs, my confidence is low.

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Uh... I have always been a big supporter of playing rookies, but giving Kiriloff his first start in a playoff game? I don't think that's a good move. I get that this lineup needs a kick in the pants desperately, but I'd much rather have Buxton out there. I could sympathize with the move if Alex had been given some ABs over the past few weeks and looked good (like Rooker, perhaps). I don't see this move panning out, but I'm hoping we can see some life out of Kiriloff's bat.

 

Buxton has to be hurt though, right? If not, I REALLY, REALLY don't understand this decision. He is supposed to be one of, if not the best player on this team and he isn't starting a playoff game?

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Berrios is going to have to pitch one of the better games of his career, as he has never made it into the 5th inning during a postseason game.

That is true, but in the 2017 Wild Card game, Berrios did pitch the 3rd - 5th and gave up 5 runs. So he has pitched in the 5th inning before... but that's not exactly a postive thing.

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It's probably concussion-related side affects. It would be one thing it was a minor muscle tweak, but he was hit in the head with a baseball. Brain injuries are nothing to scoff at IMO.

kinda funny though that he played yesterday. the HBP was last friday, was he not 100% yesterday too? I admittedly know zilch about brain injuries but I would find it hard to believe he developed concussion symptoms today that he didn't have yesterday (I assume he didnt have them since he was cleared to play)

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Yes, if it is concussion related, then you are right. 

 

I also happen to think that Donaldson's injury is a serious one. How many times over the years have the Twins come out and said how such and such an injury wasn't serious and then a month later the player is scheduled for Tommy John?

 

I just don't see Donaldson sitting out over a bruise a strained muscle.

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kinda funny though that he played yesterday. the HBP was last friday, was he not 100% yesterday too? I admittedly know zilch about brain injuries but I would find it hard to believe he developed concussion symptoms today that he didn't have yesterday (I assume he didnt have them since he was cleared to play)

As we have seen over the years with Morneau, Mauer, Buxton, etc, one thing that we know for sure about post-concussion symptoms is that they are wildly unpredictable. I think if we were still in the regular season, Buxton wouldn't have played yesterday even if he wasn't showing any symptoms. Teams these days typically like to put a guy through a workout and see how he's feeling the next day before they fully clear him, and this situation is a good example of why. Sometimes the symptoms are triggered by the previous day's workout.

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kinda funny though that he played yesterday. the HBP was last friday, was he not 100% yesterday too? I admittedly know zilch about brain injuries but I would find it hard to believe he developed concussion symptoms today that he didn't have yesterday (I assume he didnt have them since he was cleared to play)

I don't think it's a binary, black or white thing. Maybe he had mild symptoms that he thought he could manage and play through but turns out he couldn't -- there were a lot of starts and stops in the recoveries for Mauer and Morneau, for example.

 

edit: coke to twinbythebay!

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kinda funny though that he played yesterday. the HBP was last friday, was he not 100% yesterday too? I admittedly know zilch about brain injuries but I would find it hard to believe he developed concussion symptoms today that he didn't have yesterday (I assume he didnt have them since he was cleared to play)

I wonder if flailing wildly at curveballs out of the strike zone had something to do with it.

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As we have seen over the years with Morneau, Mauer, Buxton, etc, one thing that we know for sure about post-concussion symptoms is that they are wildly unpredictable. I think if we were still in the regular season, Buxton wouldn't have played yesterday even if he wasn't showing any symptoms. Teams these days typically like to put a guy through a workout and see how he's feeling the next day before they fully clear him, and this situation is a good example of why. Sometimes the symptoms are triggered by the previous day's workout.

I only pretend to be a neurologist. 

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Such a pansy ass. If his leg is cut off he shouldn't be playing. If not, just man up. Win or go home today ya know.

This is such a terrible, BS take. If you read anything that any beat writer has written about Buxton, they always emphasize how much he wants to be out there no matter how injured he is. Sometimes players need to be protected from themselves, and in case you've been living under a rock for the past 20 years, we have since discovered that head injuries are nothing to mess around with and simply "play through."

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kinda funny though that he played yesterday. the HBP was last friday, was he not 100% yesterday too? I admittedly know zilch about brain injuries but I would find it hard to believe he developed concussion symptoms today that he didn't have yesterday (I assume he didnt have them since he was cleared to play)

 

Really if you have any concussion symptoms, you are supposed to be out a minimum of 7 days to evaluate. Symptoms can come and go and maybe it wasn't that bad yesterday, but after putting your body through the game, it could trigger effects later on. 

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