07-13-2012, 12:24 PM #21
Will be interesting if the do the same with Gibson & possibly Baker or take what I percieve as the wimp way out as Washington is
07-13-2012, 12:31 PM #22
07-13-2012, 12:37 PM #23
Do you really think the Nationals will shut down Strasburg in the midst of a pennant race? I'll believe it when I see it. Every time I have heard Strasburg himself questioned about an innings limit this year he has responded that no one has spoken to him about it. In the long run it would probably be better for him, but that is sometimes a difficult decision to make. What is best for the long term development of the player vs what the team needs in the game today, tomorrow and the rest of the season.
07-13-2012, 01:19 PM #24
only cause they did the same with Jordan Zimmerman, tho it wasnt in a pennant race
They pitched him 70.2 combined IP in 2010 & 160 in 2011. Dont believe it has to be so cut & dry but depending on how the circumstances are with the pitcher (performance, how seasons goin, is he tiring)
Strasburg did 44.1 combined IP in his first year back last season....both had ACL surgeries about the same time of the yr (aug/sept) as Gibson.
Again MNs history was to go fullbore with Liriano when he was back...we'll see next yr I guess
07-13-2012, 06:22 PM #25
April - 3.15 ERA - 26% K rate - 5% BB rate
May - 3.86 ERA - 26% K rate - 5% BB rate
June - 5.17 ERA - 18% K rate - 9% BB rate
July - 11 ERA - 11% K rate - 11% BB rate
He was ready imo. Hopefully he can get back to that point and be a May/June callup next year.
One other complaint in this thread - Why does Joe Mays name get brought up? Yes, he had TJ but he was awful before TJ. He's not an example of someone that didn't recover from TJ. He's somebody that wasn't as good as Blackburn that came crashing back to earth and TJ was blamed for his crash.
07-13-2012, 06:29 PM #26
07-13-2012, 06:36 PM #27
He was bad before his one good year and he was bad after. He shouldn't even be mentioned as someone that didn't make it back from TJ.
Neither should Liriano. He came back from TJ surgery with his man weight. Does anybody remember/have the picture in spring training? The problem was that his man weight was 20-30 lbs of baby fat because he sat around eating Ho-hos instead of doing rehab. I really wish I had that photo. It pretty much explains my dislike for Liriano and it's not a surprise that he is absolutely awful at the beginning of every season.
07-13-2012, 07:32 PM #28
Would be interesting if it came down to the playoffs if they would stick him in the pen (if he was right on that IP limit)
07-13-2012, 08:21 PM #29
Liriano was excellent in his first yr back. His first 3 MN starts were horrible, but after rehabbing in ROC, his numbers after his recall were his best in his MN yrs.
11 starts 6w 1L 65.2IP 59h .236BAA 2.74ERA 60k 19bb
This was his best yr with the Twins since TJ surgery
07-13-2012, 08:56 PM #30
07-13-2012, 09:26 PM #31
So the point of this thread is that Gibson (and Baker IMO) contributing next year isn't out of the question.
07-18-2012, 12:00 PM #32
Gibson allows double/single to first 2 batters in GCL Rehab start.
then 4 straight ground outs, a soft liner to SS and another ground out.
07-18-2012, 12:13 PM #33
Terry Ryan said Gibson may have 1 (today) or 2 more GCL outings before heading to Ft Myers. He also debunked my thought that Gibson could earn a Sept callup to get himself more innings......thought was right tho as they will send him to instructional league to get more Sept innings & if all goes well, the AFL in Oct to get him around 75 IP he hopes.
07-18-2012, 12:27 PM #34
Gibson maybe being able to make the starting rotation next year after coming off a severe arm surgery is just like making a trade.
07-18-2012, 12:37 PM #35
My prediction for next spring is Gibson goes to ROC for a month & after that he's the first one recalled.
Blackburn, due only to money, is the 5th starter---team will say he's throwing like he did 3 yrs ago---but will get bludgeoned again by mid/late May & we see Gibson around June 1.....give or take. It will allow the team to monitor his innings in AAA & not create a panic if he has a bad outing.
07-18-2012, 09:17 PM #36
07-18-2012, 11:00 PM #37
07-19-2012, 07:18 AM #38
Before calling someone's comment dumb, you should probably read their posts more closely to see if they're being snarky or not.
I'm about 109% sure that edavis was joking with that comment.
07-19-2012, 07:26 AM #39
07-19-2012, 07:37 PM #40
I don't think that the Twins would start the season with Gibson in the rotation. I do think that he will be close to ready and could still be the first to be promoted.