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Thread: Article: Patience with Bullpen is a Must

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    A common argument is that the Twins are taking the "cheap" route by bringing in all these "retreads". There is a glut of these has-beens, right? Well, logic would tell you to hold off until the prices go dowm, especially if your cheap SOB's like the Twins. So, explain to me why the Twins were early in signing guys, not late. To fill their allottment with the absolute cheapest guys?

    I really think that's what some of you believe. How about this for an alternative explanation? They did their homework and signed some guys they actually think have a chance.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Han Joelo View Post
    It's not really the mixing of the writers that is a problem, but, as Nick may have been alluding to--the mixing or the readers/commenters. Every reader of Twindaily probably has a favorite writer of the four, and we just need to figure out a way to get along a respect each other's differing points of view, which is the whole point anyway.
    Well stated.

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    Do you have a chronic need to get the last word in, Nick ?

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    What a ridiculous straw-man article.

    Nobody is saying that you can't fill bullpen spots with non-descript guys. Nobody is saying you can't have an open competition for some non critical roles in the pen.

    What people are rightly negative about is how irresponsible it is to not bring in guys who are proven and not coming of major injury. Just one 1 RH pitcher for 2 mil would do it.

    Instead they chose not to and save that 2 mil for....what?
    Last edited by clutterheart; 03-02-2012 at 09:04 PM. Reason: dumb

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    Quote Originally Posted by clutterheart View Post
    What a ridiculous straw-man article.

    Nobody is saying that you can fill bullpen spots with non-descript guys. Nobody is saying you can't have an open competition for some non critical roles in the pen.

    What people are rightly negative about is how irresponsible it is to not bring in guys who are proven and not coming of major injury. Just one 1 RH pitcher for 2 mil would do it.

    Instead they chose not to and save that 2 mil for....what?

    Is this how you get assess Seth? By being such a Homer that you can't even criticize their dumbest moves?
    Hold on to your horses (and chill a bit )

    And this comes from someone who does not think much (and been fairly vocal about it for a long time) of Gardenhire, Anderson, Vavra, Scotty, Terry Ryan and the "Twins' way 2.0"

    But not signing another reliever (that you might know) other than Zumaya (and Capps - even though they overpaid for Capps) is not a bad thing... They signed a whole bunch of relievers in decent contracts, some veterans some not that veteran. And some on the relievers in the organization can step up.

    Hey I am not a "homer" (cannot even attempt to think about writting Illiad or Odessey,) but I am hopeful for the next season
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    Quote Originally Posted by clutterheart View Post
    What a ridiculous straw-man article.

    Nobody is saying that you can't fill bullpen spots with non-descript guys. Nobody is saying you can't have an open competition for some non critical roles in the pen.

    What people are rightly negative about is how irresponsible it is to not bring in guys who are proven and not coming of major injury. Just one 1 RH pitcher for 2 mil would do it.

    Instead they chose not to and save that 2 mil for....what?
    This is my thought as well. I am a big believer that you shouldn't invest big money in relief pitchers. But some of the guys that were available and signed for less than 3 mill are definite upgrades over the bunch we have fighting for the available spots. The Twins bullpen was the WORST in the AL last year, and the only real change was getting rid of Nathan, who was probably their best RP the last 2 months of the season. We did not bring in any proven replacements, how in the world can we, even if trying to be optimistic, think that there will be real improvement this year? Let's not forget that the Starting rotation is also in need of a bounce back year, and if the results are the same as last year, we are going to rely heavily on the BP this year.

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    The Twins have had an excellent past with retreads, I think they are probably thinking we got some kids in the minors who are real close to being able to contribute. Who those kids are, no one knows.

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