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#1 Parker Hageman

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Posted 27 March 2014 - 02:14 PM

You can view the page at http://twinsdaily.co...-Presley-waived

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Posted 27 March 2014 - 02:43 PM

Good to hear Bartlett is hitting the ball better, I feel people get way to hung up with SSS spring training stats. It is very possible that one guys 1 for 10 is looking much better than anothers 3 for 10 etc.

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Posted 27 March 2014 - 02:45 PM

Parker, have you heard anything yet about Florimon not going north, and working more in extended ST?

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Posted 27 March 2014 - 02:55 PM

Parker, have you heard anything yet about Florimon not going north, and working more in extended ST?


Nothing yet. Will inquire.

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Posted 27 March 2014 - 02:58 PM

Berardino tweets something from his talk with Presley that makes it sound like another move is coming. Is there anything corroborating that?

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Posted 27 March 2014 - 03:01 PM

Good to hear Bartlett is hitting the ball better, I feel people get way to hung up with SSS spring training stats. It is very possible that one guys 1 for 10 is looking much better than anothers 3 for 10 etc.

I'm just not buying Bartlett, especially since Escobar has earned the backup spot, in my opinion. I prefer Mastroianni over Presley and Colabello over Parmelee and Gibson and Deduno over Diamond, though, so I like today's moves. I would like to see Diamond choose Rochester and continue to work on his stuff, you never know, he might come around and he is a lefty.
The Red Wings are looking pretty good right now. It is not just the three top prospects that could help us soon, there are several good players there.

#7 Parker Hageman

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Posted 27 March 2014 - 03:02 PM

Berardino tweets something from his talk with Presley that makes it sound like another move is coming. Is there anything corroborating that?


Antony suggested the roster is all but finalized but they are keeping options open.

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Posted 27 March 2014 - 03:25 PM

Bartlett always killed the White Sox, gonna see if he that magic back

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Posted 27 March 2014 - 03:31 PM

Sounds stupid letting Pressley go as he would be the kind of 4th outfielder we need. Instead we keep Bartlett? We have a utility IF? Poor decision making Gardy... you may be looking at the door soon.

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Posted 27 March 2014 - 03:38 PM

Sounds stupid letting Pressley go as he would be the kind of 4th outfielder we need. Instead we keep Bartlett? We have a utility IF? Poor decision making Gardy... you may be looking at the door soon.


As usual we blame Gardy for any decision we think is bad...

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Posted 27 March 2014 - 03:39 PM

Good to hear Bartlett is hitting the ball better, I feel people get way to hung up with SSS spring training stats. It is very possible that one guys 1 for 10 is looking much better than anothers 3 for 10 etc.


How about judging him on the last 3-4 years, and not how hard he is hitting the ball in ST?

antony all but admits that this is Gardy's roster. I wonder what that means for his future when they lost 90 games again.

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Posted 27 March 2014 - 03:39 PM

Wow. Bartlett in his prime was traded, but now, after being out of the game for a year and not able to hit at all........ he makes the roster. How he can be a centerfield backup is mind boggling. I am happy to see Hicks starting in center. I think by the end of the year, this team won't look anything like it does now. It is hard to know, as a player, whether there is a competition or not for a job. Gibson, yes. Kubel and Bartlett, no. Colabello, I hope so. Kris Johnson is the only return for Morneau, now. Bartlett makes the team. Mind boggling.

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Posted 27 March 2014 - 03:39 PM

As usual we blame Gardy for any decision we think is bad...


Did you read the quotes? Antony says they chose Bartlett because that's what Gardy wanted.

What I just typed is probably an opinion, not a fact. I mean, I'm usually right, so you should maybe assume it is or will be a fact soon, but that's up to you. :) Also, I am NOT trying to convince anyone I am correct, I'm just talking here, not arguing.


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Posted 27 March 2014 - 03:49 PM

Wow. Bartlett in his prime was traded, but now, after being out of the game for a year and not able to hit at all........ he makes the roster. How he can be a centerfield backup is mind boggling. I am happy to see Hicks starting in center. I think by the end of the year, this team won't look anything like it does now. It is hard to know, as a player, whether there is a competition or not for a job. Gibson, yes. Kubel and Bartlett, no. Colabello, I hope so. Kris Johnson is the only return for Morneau, now. Bartlett makes the team. Mind boggling.


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Posted 27 March 2014 - 03:51 PM

So after Antony blasts a bunch of guys for not earning spots they grant spots to Bartlett and Kubel, who've underperformed as much, if not more, as anybody. Sure the guys they waived haven't been great but I just don't see an upside to either of these guys on the roster.

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Posted 27 March 2014 - 03:53 PM

The quote from Diamond "[FONT=Arial] I felt what I had going for me is being out of options and being a lefty just trying breaking up that right-handed rotation but I think with the numbers he put up this spring in was too hard to ignore.” really irked me.

It seemed he expected to get the job because he was left handed and he was out of options. If the Twins had had any decent alternatives, he would not have been promoted in the first place. He was a rule 5 pick up by the Twins. Someone else thought he was not good enough to protect. He was fortunate that the Twins had pitching troubles two years ago so that he could get a chance. His roster spot last year was given to him based on his performance from the previous year.



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Posted 27 March 2014 - 03:53 PM

I was surprised Pressly was put on waivers but more surprised the first team grabbed him. Glad to see Parmelee and diamond clear waivers. I wonder how good diamond would be in relief. If parmelee does well in AAA he can take over for kubel when he gets traded/does poorly

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Posted 27 March 2014 - 04:08 PM

Yeah, I don't understand this move at all. Bartlett is 34 years old and has no upside. He didn't play at all last year, barely played in 2012 (while posting a .432 OPS), and struggled for most of Spring Training. Keeping him on the roster instead of someone who can backup centerfield is a questionable decision.

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Posted 27 March 2014 - 04:13 PM

I'm pretty happy about these decisions. The Bartlett thing, I think I get. You know what Presley is...and well, if Florimon is healthy or whatever - even worse than normal, Bartlett is an option there. So I get that. He can probably adapt to any of the positions fairly well. And a 'utility' guy isn't a guy getting a lot of at bats - so no big deal.

Just glad they kept the kids up on the club. Hicks, Arcia, Colabello, and Gibson - when it seemed at times like any one of them may not make it.

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Posted 27 March 2014 - 04:24 PM

Just glad they kept the kids up on the club. Hicks, Arcia, Colabello, and Gibson - when it seemed at times like any one of them may not make it.


I'm happy for Colabello but he isn't a "kid". He's 30. He seems younger because he hasn't been in mlb much but he's really a place filler. I am, however, very happy for him that he's able to live his big league dream for now.