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#21 Boom Boom

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Posted 25 March 2014 - 07:15 AM

The Twins might keep both Kubel and Parmelee and stash Arcia at AAA.

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Posted 25 March 2014 - 07:17 AM

I get the feeling Kubel's going to be playing LF with Willingham the DH, for what it's worth, even though it was assumed the reverse going into ST.

I said it on another thread, I'm not excited about Kubel making it based on last year and this spring, but he's got enough track record I can ignore SSS spring training stats for now. I just want him to actually produce to keep his spot on the roster. We don't need a veteran not-part-of-the-future guy taking up a spot on the team if he isn't putting up worthy numbers.

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Posted 25 March 2014 - 07:24 AM

The Twins might keep both Kubel and Parmelee and stash Arcia at AAA.


I actually think this is fairly likely. And it makes you wonder what they rebuild strategy is, if they are going to not play young players.

What I just typed is probably an opinion, not a fact. I mean, I'm usually right, so you should maybe assume it is or will be a fact soon, but that's up to you. :) Also, I am NOT trying to convince anyone I am correct, I'm just talking here, not arguing.


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Posted 25 March 2014 - 07:42 AM

Picking Parmelee is bascially picking both of them. Kubel is one flight away and can be summoned the next day if/when Parmelee/Colabello/Willingham/Arcia flop or get hurt. It doesn't work the other way around, I just don't understand the hesitation. It's not like you HAVE to commit to Parmelee just because you choose him, his stay at with the Twins doesn't have to be long.

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Posted 25 March 2014 - 07:44 AM

Another hypothetical (and unfortunately not so) : It might not be a Kubel vs Parmelee choice. Kubel has made the team. It might be a Parmelee vs. Presley choice. And Gardenhire has played Parmelee at CF this Spring and has hinted that Kubel would play the OF as well. Got to DVR the game that he starts Kubel-Parmelee-Willingham at the OF.


This will be the game the pitching staff boycotts.

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Posted 25 March 2014 - 07:47 AM

The Twins might keep both Kubel and Parmelee and stash Arcia at AAA.


The notion of this makes me want to scream.

Arcia needs to play everyday. Period.

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Posted 25 March 2014 - 07:49 AM

The Twins might keep both Kubel and Parmelee and stash Arcia at AAA.


This is entirely possible, though I hope not.

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Posted 25 March 2014 - 07:56 AM

The notion of this makes me want to scream.

Arcia needs to play everyday. Period.


If the 25 best players made the team, then Meyer would be coming north.

Arcia's got options, and he plays the same position as Kubel and Parmelee (whatever that is). It's not what I would do, but to be honest Arcia hasn't lit the world on fire in ST. From what I saw of him, he's having a tough time making contact.

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Posted 25 March 2014 - 07:59 AM

If the 25 best players made the team, then Meyer would be coming north.

Arcia's got options, and he plays the same position as Kubel and Parmelee (whatever that is). It's not what I would do, but to be honest Arcia hasn't lit the world on fire in ST. From what I saw of him, he's having a tough time making contact.


The difference between Meyer and Arcia is competing player.

Meyer is competing with the likes of Gibson, Pelfrey, and Correia. Correia and Pelfrey should be adequate starters. Gibson is also a prospect and should be in line to get a shot before Meyer, especially considering how he has looked this spring.

On the other hand, Arcia is blocked by two bad players. It is not only likely that he's better than Kubel and Parmelee on Opening Day, it's likely that he's much better. The same can't really be said for Meyer, who won't be killed by another couple of months in the minors. Arcia has already dominated every level of the minor leagues and looked like a decent MLB player in 2013. He needs better competition to advance at this point.

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Posted 25 March 2014 - 10:03 AM

I'm almost convinced the Twins planted Bartlett at ST to overshadow how bad Kubel is at this point. Bartlett has been an embarassment and the fact the FO is still mentioning him boarders on gross neglegence. Kubel is maybe a rung up the latter but neither has any business in the majors at this point.

I say you give Parmalee the RF job and if he's not producing by the end of May you waive him and bring up one of the other replacement level guys we have in Roch.

Arcia HAS to make this roster or someone needs to investigate them purposly tanking the season. Arcia is the 2nd best player on the roster and its not close.

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Posted 25 March 2014 - 10:13 AM

Arcia HAS to make this roster or someone needs to investigate them purposly tanking the season. Arcia is the 2nd best player on the roster and its not close.


Eh, comparatively speaking and taking position into account, Dozier might be the second best guy.

But Arcia is definitely in the conversation.

And that's pretty sad, actually.

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Posted 25 March 2014 - 10:45 AM

Kubel has been added to the 40 and 25 man roster, so the question now becomes Parmelee or Colabello, or Bartlett.

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Posted 25 March 2014 - 11:05 AM

It's not what I would do, but to be honest Arcia hasn't lit the world on fire in ST. From what I saw of him, he's having a tough time making contact.


I know it's just spring training stats, but this worries me too. Arcia saw his K rate skyrocket in 2013, and it's almost exactly the same this spring.

Actually, aside from Hicks, the whole team seems to be carrying over that K bug from 2013. Even Mauer.

That's one of the reasons I was excited about Danny Santana -- while he doesn't draw walks, the guy seemed to really cut his Ks last year, and they stayed down this spring while he hit pretty well (admitted against mostly minor league competition).

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Posted 25 March 2014 - 03:09 PM

With Kubel locked to make the team, it might be a Parmelee vs Arcia competition. Or maybe Presley vs Parmelee. Or wait, Colabello vs Parmelee. Parmelee vs EVERYONE!!!

But in all seriousness, I think Parmelee should win and get a roster spot. If they can give him a few more PAs, maybe, just maybe he could hit. There's got to be a way they can teach him how to hit a fastball belt-high. If our staff won't do it, Baltimore's staff will. (or whoever else claims him. Probably the Astros actually.)

I also hope it's a given that Bartlett's off the team. I like him, but frankly he has no business on this roster.

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Posted 25 March 2014 - 03:19 PM

Just announced that Twins informed Kubel he made the team.

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Posted 25 March 2014 - 03:54 PM

The notion of this makes me want to scream.

Arcia needs to play everyday. Period.

Arcia needs to play every day with the big league club. Period.

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Posted 25 March 2014 - 04:29 PM

The difference between Meyer and Arcia is competing player.

Meyer is competing with the likes of Gibson, Pelfrey, and Correia. Correia and Pelfrey should be adequate starters. Gibson is also a prospect and should be in line to get a shot before Meyer, especially considering how he has looked this spring.

On the other hand, Arcia is blocked by two bad players. It is not only likely that he's better than Kubel and Parmelee on Opening Day, it's likely that he's much better. The same can't really be said for Meyer, who won't be killed by another couple of months in the minors. Arcia has already dominated every level of the minor leagues and looked like a decent MLB player in 2013. He needs better competition to advance at this point.


Dear God...to even utter the world 'blocked' in consideration of those two guys...oye!

I'm with the crew Arcia has to play and play in MLB everyday he can.

And overall...like this, until those on the higher end prove they can't cut it. To which Arcia would really have to tank for that.

Arcia > Colabello > Parmalee > Kubel

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Posted 25 March 2014 - 04:44 PM

I would take Parmelee bc he doesnt have options and Kubel is on a minor league contract. Personally I think its 6 of one and a half dozen of the other

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Posted 25 March 2014 - 04:54 PM

This thread should be re-titled 'Punch in the face or kick in the wiener?'.

And if either guy has any bearing on Arcia being sent down, then my guess is that the answer is 'both'.

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Posted 25 March 2014 - 05:01 PM

This will be the game the pitching staff boycotts.


They boycotted most of them last season, so that would not be much different...
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