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#1 JB_Iowa

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Posted 20 March 2014 - 11:43 AM

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    Tests on @tigers SS Jose Iglesias show bilateral tibial stress fractures, will be limited to non-weight bearing exercise for 4-6 months.



    Isn't "bilateral tibial stress fractures" limited to non-weight bearing exercise just a more severe form of "bilateral leg weakness"?

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Posted 20 March 2014 - 11:46 AM

I've been waiting for this one.

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Posted 20 March 2014 - 12:04 PM

Time to form a candlelight vigil for Iglesias. He's a goner.

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Posted 20 March 2014 - 12:31 PM

Time to form a candlelight vigil for Iglesias. He's a goner.



I assume there will be a contingency of Twins fans who will complain and say that Iglesius should be playing, right?

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Posted 20 March 2014 - 12:35 PM

I assume there will be a contingency of Twins fans who will complain and say that Iglesius should be playing, right?


I doubt it. I'm guessing most of us are just fine with Detroit being short their starting SS, regardless of their feelings regarding the diagnosis.

But this sounds different than Joe's vague condition anyway. Bilateral just means both sides of the body and that seems to be the only similar term in this comparison. Joe's condition (which as far as I remember was only mentioned by Gardy, Smith or some other non-medically liscensed personell) was just described as "leg weakness," not a stress fracture.

Edited by nicksaviking, 20 March 2014 - 12:41 PM.


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Posted 20 March 2014 - 12:36 PM

I assume there will be a contingency of Twins fans who will complain and say that Iglesius should be playing, right?


And that he should also hit more homers.

Because, homeruns.

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Posted 20 March 2014 - 01:04 PM

But this sounds different than Joe's vague condition anyway. Bilateral just means both sides of the body and that seems to be the only similar term in this comparison. Joe's condition (which as far as I remember was only mentioned by Gardy, Smith or some other non-medically liscensed personell) was just described as "leg weakness," not a stress fracture.


I think it was a really unfortunate choice of words with regard to Mauer.

But actually seeing bilateral used in conjunction with tibial stress gives me a greater understanding of why the term "bilateral leg weakness" may have been used with Mauer. I would guess that a medical professional used it and then it was picked up by someone in Twins management who, unfortunately, uttered the phrase without elaborating until all blogosphere h*ll had broken loose.

And I do think that someone will try to pinpoint how/why the stress fractures developed in both of Iglesias' legs. Diet and nutrition (maybe even in childhood)? Overtraining? Bad training?

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Posted 20 March 2014 - 02:06 PM

I think bilateral leg weakness just has inherent comic effect as a phrase. Even if people can't explicitly name Greek and Latin derivatives versus their Norse or Anglo-Saxon counterparts, they know that throwing a Latin sounding term like bilateral in front of a normal sounding word like leg or weakness comes across as trying to make something fancy, like a bona fide banjo.

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Posted 20 March 2014 - 02:10 PM

I think bilateral leg weakness just has inherent comic effect as a phrase. Even if people can't explicitly name Greek and Latin derivatives versus their Norse or Anglo-Saxon counterparts, they know that throwing a Latin sounding term like bilateral in front of a normal sounding word like leg or weakness comes across as trying to make something fancy, like a bona fide banjo.


Exactly. It's hard not to question an injury that sounds like Dr. Nick Riviera came up with the name.

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Posted 20 March 2014 - 02:14 PM

I've got an old Unix shell script that generates random rock band names:
Squiggly Act Of Treason
Useless Samoans
Ethical Madness Of The Third Kind
Attack Of The Utility Infielder
Middle Class Cookies

Maybe I should feed it a vocabulary of medical terms, and go into business as an iatric consultant.

[SIZE=1]/ in the spirit of putting a fancy word in front of a regular one, maybe I should be an iatric goober.[/SIZE]

Edited by ashburyjohn, 20 March 2014 - 02:55 PM.


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Posted 20 March 2014 - 03:30 PM

Exactly. It's hard not to question an injury that sounds like Dr. Nick Riviera came up with the name.


Are you saying people can't become overweight from assa-horizontology?

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Posted 20 March 2014 - 04:29 PM

Exactly. It's hard not to question an injury that sounds like Dr. Nick Riviera came up with the name.


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Posted 20 March 2014 - 05:24 PM

You are all missing the bilateral stress fracture part. That would be two broken legs without displacement of the bones. That they are wanting him off his legs that long would lead me to believe there might be a couple fractures on each.

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Posted 20 March 2014 - 05:36 PM

You are all missing the bilateral stress fracture part. That would be two broken legs without displacement of the bones. That they are wanting him off his legs that long would lead me to believe there might be a couple fractures on each.


I think the first few comments pretty much captured the severity of the situation. We've kind of fooled around after that, but is there more to say? It can't be a good sign to have fractures in both legs for reasons unknown.

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Posted 20 March 2014 - 05:45 PM

I assume there will be a contingency of Twins fans who will complain and say that Iglesius should be playing, right?


Time to rub some dirt on it and get back out there!

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Posted 20 March 2014 - 05:47 PM

You are all missing the bilateral stress fracture part. That would be two broken legs without displacement of the bones. That they are wanting him off his legs that long would lead me to believe there might be a couple fractures on each.


I'm pretty sure that no one is missing anything.

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Posted 20 March 2014 - 07:46 PM

I've got an old Unix shell script that generates random rock band names:
Squiggly Act Of Treason
Useless Samoans
Ethical Madness Of The Third Kind
Attack Of The Utility Infielder
Middle Class Cookies

Maybe I should feed it a vocabulary of medical terms, and go into business as an iatric consultant.

[SIZE=1]/ in the spirit of putting a fancy word in front of a regular one, maybe I should be an iatric goober.[/SIZE]


I want to call my band... "Bandwidth Problems"

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Posted 21 March 2014 - 06:52 AM

I think the first few comments pretty much captured the severity of the situation. We've kind of fooled around after that, but is there more to say? It can't be a good sign to have fractures in both legs for reasons unknown.

I have noticed that people on this board tend to "fool around" with things that they do not accept or understand.

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Posted 21 March 2014 - 07:10 AM

I have noticed that people on this board tend to "fool around" with things that they do not accept or understand.


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Posted 21 March 2014 - 07:15 AM

I have noticed that people on this board tend to "fool around" with things that they do not accept or understand.


Or maybe we're just having a little fun with the fact that when Mauer was diagnosed with bilateral leg weakness, bloggers and posters were diagnosing him with everything from cancer to HIV.

No, really. Not exaggerating. HIV.

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Posted 21 March 2014 - 08:55 AM

I have noticed that people on this board tend to "fool around" with things that they do not accept or understand.


Sometimes referred to as a sense of humour. C'mon Nurse, you don't need to be a doctor to see why Twins fans would find this kind of funny.

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Posted 21 March 2014 - 03:46 PM

Or maybe we're just having a little fun with the fact that when Mauer was diagnosed with bilateral leg weakness, bloggers and posters were diagnosing him with everything from cancer to HIV.No, really. Not exaggerating. HIV.

As far as I know, neither the Twins or Mauer have ever issued a statement denying it. I'm not saying, I'm just saying...

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Posted 21 March 2014 - 03:54 PM

bloggers and posters were diagnosing him with everything from cancer to HIV.


Not just bloggers, Souhan had a column in the paper diagnosing him with depression.

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Posted 21 March 2014 - 10:05 PM

I think the first few comments pretty much captured the severity of the situation. We've kind of fooled around after that, but is there more to say? It can't be a good sign to have fractures in both legs for reasons unknown.


Reasons unknown? Everyone knows the most common cause of fractures in both legs is borrowing money from a guy named Rocco.

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Posted 21 March 2014 - 11:55 PM

Sometimes referred to as a sense of humour. C'mon Nurse, you don't need to be a doctor to see why Twins fans would find this kind of funny.


I can well understand why many would find it funny. Fans are who they are. Doesn't make either of my comments wrong, either.

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Posted 22 March 2014 - 05:59 AM

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Posted 22 March 2014 - 11:27 AM

I can well understand why many would find it funny. Fans are who they are. Doesn't make either of my comments wrong, either.


I'm willing to learn, if you think there is something that we do not accept or understand about Iglesias's bilateral tibial stress fracture.

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Posted 22 March 2014 - 12:23 PM

Causes of bilateral leg stress fractures:

(1) Hustling to cover grounders that Miguel Cabrera should have fielded.
(2) Watching too much cable TV news.
(3) Scott Boras offered 10% of whatever Drew signs for.
(4) Falling from a really high fence while longingly watching the Red Sox World Series parade.
(5) Heels were too high on rookie dress-up day.
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Posted 22 March 2014 - 01:59 PM

I'm willing to learn, if you think there is something that we do not accept or understand about Iglesias's bilateral tibial stress fracture.

In regards to stress fracture. When the time off the legs before even beginning rehab is given as 3-4 times longer than standard timing for recovery from that type of problem, doesn't that raise a red flag that there might also be something else going on? It is also very early in the season to be an overuse injury unless there are other factors. It is not like he is pounding miles on a hard surface like a runner or basketball player. True he can probably do a mid air pirouette as well as a ballet dancer, but he lands on dirt, not a hardwood floor.
The problem is not the diagnosis of stress fracture, it is the leg weakness thing. Leg weakness can be a diagnosis, but it is the symptom of a problem. It is not a condition these athletes did something stupid to get. Why make fun of it?
Not so long ago people were making fun of concussions. A little knowledge changed that.

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Posted 22 March 2014 - 02:26 PM

doesn't that raise a red flag that there might also be something else going on?


Brock covered that to my satisfaction, in the second response.

Why make fun of it?


The fun was being made of the manufactured outrage over Mauer. Because, you know, Mauer. 23. Million. Mauer. Bilateral.