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#1 John Bonnes

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Posted 02 March 2014 - 06:38 PM

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#2 CwK

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Posted 02 March 2014 - 07:01 PM

Can you describe the sharpness of Buxton's ground-outs?

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Posted 02 March 2014 - 07:15 PM

And his smile, describe his smile.... that's important.

#4 Zephrin

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Posted 02 March 2014 - 07:19 PM

Leaving Arcia in Florida would be a mistake, IMO.

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Posted 02 March 2014 - 07:19 PM

I always think it's a bit silly when people critique pitchers' performances their first time out in a spring game... Typically, veteran pitchers are working on specific aspects of pitching at this point in spring training... Maybe they're throwing mostly fastballs or are working on placement... They certainly aren't taking the same approach as they would in a regular season game... If someone is getting hit hard toward the end of March, that's a different story...

#6 Seth Stohs

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Posted 02 March 2014 - 07:27 PM

In my first roster projection two weeks ago, I had Kubel, Parmelee and Arcia all on the roster. But, I didn't have any of them in Red (givens).

And yeah, for veteran pitchers, assured of making the roster, the first 3-5 spring starts are pretty meaningless.

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Posted 02 March 2014 - 07:40 PM

It would be so depressing for Arcia, Hicks and Pinto to be in AAA, with Sano out for a year. Another year with old guys with no future on the roster. I hope all three are up. I will pay to see hope.

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Posted 02 March 2014 - 07:53 PM

It would be so depressing for Arcia, Hicks and Pinto to be in AAA, with Sano out for a year. Another year with old guys with no future on the roster. I hope all three are up.

I will pay to see hope.


I too, will pay to see hope.....and change.

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Posted 02 March 2014 - 08:03 PM

It would be so depressing for Arcia, Hicks and Pinto to be in AAA, with Sano out for a year. Another year with old guys with no future on the roster. I hope all three are up. I will pay to see hope.


I totally agree... They just need to get the future players up here... Forget the washouts, re-treads and fillers...

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Posted 02 March 2014 - 08:14 PM

Santana started at SS today. Got a hit and a Stolen base....thats good.

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Posted 02 March 2014 - 09:00 PM

Just a reminder, the regular season is six months long. The guys that start the season and play in April may well be forgotten by August. If none of the young guys start the season with the Twins it will be a small disappointment. If none of them step forward by mid-season, it will be a bigger disappointment no matter where they start the season.

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Posted 02 March 2014 - 09:13 PM

Swarzak should be on a list of concerns. He led relievers in innings last year. Relievers are the most volatile in performance particularly following seasons of heavy use. The Twins should not be assuming he will match his performance from 2014. Projections on fangraphs show an increase in FIP and ERA resulting from an increased walk and home run rate.

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Posted 02 March 2014 - 11:21 PM

Good Lord, breaking down each pitchers performance followed by the disclaimer that it is early. "I'm not saying there should be any concern. It's March 2nd. I'm just saying there is clearly work to do." Ya think? This critique is as pointless as saying we are 2-0 against the world champs. It is all about getting in shape for the regular season. it never mattered that Slowey would go 5-0 in ST with a 0.50 ERA It won't matter if Nolasco goes 0-5 with a 7.0 ERA as long as he develops his pitches and command along the way

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Posted 03 March 2014 - 07:00 AM

Leaving Arcia in Florida would be a mistake, IMO.


Agreed… I want Arcia back up north. Unfortunately, my confidence between Kubel and Parmalee is about as solid as flipping a coin.

Watching yesterdays game compared to Friday and Saturday with the Red Sox… it just felt like somehow we were playing our B squad against the Ray's top team. A little harsh, but the difference was palpable. Nonetheless, very fun to see some of the Twins young guns, especially Buxton and Meyer, before they get shipped off.

And I got Buxton's autograph! :jump: Add to the Twins Apparel that I can never wear ever again.
Nadie dijo que la vida sería fácil, sólo dijeron que valdría la pena.

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Posted 03 March 2014 - 07:04 AM

Agreed… I want Arcia back up north. Unfortunately, my confidence between Kubel and Parmalee is about as solid as flipping a coin.

Watching yesterdays game compared to Friday and Saturday with the Red Sox… it just felt like somehow we were playing our B squad against the Ray's top team. A little harsh, but the difference was palpable. Nonetheless, very fun to see some of the Twins young guns, especially Buxton and Meyer, before they get shipped off.

And I got Buxton's autograph! :jump: Add to the Twins Apparel that I can never wear ever again.

Tell us more about getting his autograph.

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Posted 03 March 2014 - 07:32 AM

Way too early to make decisions about players. I am on record as predicting that Arcia's option will be used this year at some point. I expect that he'll still get over 500 PAs for the Twins, but I expect a stumble along the way. Perhaps sending him to Rochester to start the season and giving Parm one more chance will happen, but I'm sure the leash on Parmelee would be short. I don't think Kubel's spot is guaranteed, but if he hits the ball hard, they will make room for him.

A question for you roster-watchers, if Florimon starts the season on the DL but only for a short time, do the Twins keep Santana on the club (he's on the 40-man) or add a non-roster infielder (Bartlett, Beresford, Bernier)?

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Posted 03 March 2014 - 07:34 AM

Tell us more about getting his autograph.


He was great! I got lucky with my seat selection yesterday (see photos) so it was pretty easy to chat with the crew. This has honestly been one of the best trips of my life to date… going to be next to impossible to miss this next year!


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Posted 03 March 2014 - 12:00 PM

Well, I certainly had a different take on Meyer's performance. Fastball velocity? Check. Fastball location? Check. Shoulder seems OK after throwing? Um, no idea. How can you write a story about Meyer's first appearance without letting us know how his shoulder felt. Worthless story, John.

#19 John Bonnes

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Posted 03 March 2014 - 09:35 PM

Re: pitchers' early performance - I agree, it means nothing right now. But I need to report what I see.

Re: Meyer's shoulder - I couldn't talk to any of the players after the game. Tampa Bay never replied to our request for credentials.

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Posted 04 March 2014 - 12:05 PM

Just got back from Ft Myers last night. One piece of advice for those headed down in the coming weeks......if you go to a game in Port Charlotte, give yourseld plenty of time to get there. It's only about 30-40 miles from Ft Myer, but it's not close to the freeway and there are a LOT of stoplights along the way. I missed the opening pitch on Saturday.