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#1 Seth Stohs

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Posted 28 February 2014 - 01:10 PM

http://blogs.twincit...s-set-for-exam/

See Mike Berardino's terrific blog with all the details and quotes from Rob Antony.

Sano tweaked his elbow yesterday making an off-balanced throw to 1B. He came out of the intrasquad game and is set to be re-examined this afternoon.

I agree with Antony in saying that they had to get him into game action to see how it would respond. He had no problems throughout the throwing program and making regular throws. he had made a couple of plays earlier in the game yesterday.

Hopefully it is nothing, but obviously at this point, there is new concern.

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Posted 28 February 2014 - 01:18 PM

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Posted 28 February 2014 - 01:19 PM

Rest and rehab.... Followed by tjs!!!

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Posted 28 February 2014 - 01:27 PM

Rest and rehab.... Followed by tjs!!!


Anything that prevents him from hitting .415 with 8 HR's this spring is probably a good thing. If we send him down after that the fringe fans and even some real fans will go nuts. I have no doubt he will be a productive major leaguer starting at some point this year, but if we rush him I feel like equaling Hicks #'s early might not be all that automatic.

#5 gunnarthor

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Posted 28 February 2014 - 01:31 PM

Damn.

#6 drock2190

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Posted 28 February 2014 - 01:31 PM

Might as well mark him down for Tommy John.

Expect to see him in June of 2015.

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Posted 28 February 2014 - 01:35 PM

Damn.


Agreed

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Posted 28 February 2014 - 01:40 PM

For Sano this sucks but for the Twins perhaps a blessing. Better for him to have this issue taken care of now instead of during one of the 6 years we have him for sure on our team. It is unfortunate but hopefully will work out well in the long run for everyone.

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Posted 28 February 2014 - 01:46 PM

Might as well mark him down for Tommy John.

Expect to see him in June of 2015.


I believe TJ surgery for players is a faster recovery time. He might be able to play in Sept or early the AFL (if he were eligible).

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Posted 28 February 2014 - 02:01 PM

I believe TJ surgery for players is a faster recovery time. He might be able to play in Sept or early the AFL (if he were eligible).


Yeah but knowing the Twins they will try to avoid the surgery only to do it 3 months later. Then he has to prove he can hit in the minor leagues before being promoted. So my timeline is probably optimistic.

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Posted 28 February 2014 - 02:24 PM

$&*% !!!
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Posted 28 February 2014 - 02:33 PM

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Posted 28 February 2014 - 02:34 PM

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Posted 28 February 2014 - 02:34 PM

$&*% !!!

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#15 Boom Boom

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Posted 28 February 2014 - 02:51 PM

I'm disappointed but not surprised.

#16 thetank

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Posted 28 February 2014 - 03:20 PM

For Sano this sucks but for the Twins perhaps a blessing. Better for him to have this issue taken care of now instead of during one of the 6 years we have him for sure on our team. It is unfortunate but hopefully will work out well in the long run for everyone.

Let's wait until the exam. No blessing at all since many 3b never get this injury.

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Posted 28 February 2014 - 03:27 PM

Should have done it in December. For position player he could have maybe played half a season. Doesn't really need an elbow to play first anyway does he?

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Posted 28 February 2014 - 03:37 PM

I had, what I thought was, a completely unjustified bad feeling about this over the offseason. I'm sad to hear it may have been justified.

But it is another valuable lesson about counting chickens......

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Posted 28 February 2014 - 03:43 PM

Sano tweaks elbow. Twins doctors awaiting results of colonoscopy.
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Posted 28 February 2014 - 03:54 PM

As soon as I read this, I figured there would be folks on TD criticizing the Twins handling of Sano's health care. A bit predictable.
I hope Mr. Sano is ok with rest, and if he has surgery, all goes well, and he can get back on track ASAP.

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Posted 28 February 2014 - 04:16 PM

"But it is another valuable lesson about counting chickens......"

Concur. Let's hope it's a short lesson.

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Posted 28 February 2014 - 04:20 PM

Sano's Agent (and roommate, I think):

http://blogs.twincit...e-than-nothing/

#23 Seth Stohs

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Posted 28 February 2014 - 04:35 PM

The Twins handled it perfectly to this point...

Now we can just hope for the best, whether that's surgery or not.

Here is Berardino's update, including discouraging comments from Sano's agent, Rob Plummer.

http://blogs.twincit...e-than-nothing/

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Posted 28 February 2014 - 04:51 PM

You can really see the different stages of loss in the comments:Denial, anger, bargaining, etc. I'm at depression. Why can't we have anything nice?

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Posted 28 February 2014 - 05:00 PM

The Twins handled it perfectly to this point...

Now we can just hope for the best, whether that's surgery or not.

Here is Berardino's update, including discouraging comments from Sano's agent, Rob Plummer.

http://blogs.twincit...e-than-nothing/


For all the angst about the Twins' doctors, I don't think I trust Dr. Plummer's diagnosis at all.

Meanwhile...."Here we go, Trevor, here we go!" <clap, clap> "Here we go, Trevor, here we go!"

#26 drock2190

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Posted 28 February 2014 - 05:22 PM

I hope they don't play the wait and see game.

When was the last time that worked??

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Posted 28 February 2014 - 05:28 PM

Man This is really disheartening stuff, The worst thing now is if the Twins are in that grey area or on the fence about which direction to choose:

1: Rest AND ReHab. (which lets face it, ultimately could just dely the inevitable)

2: Have an actual surgery.


It seems like those are the only options, in which i'd stess with #2 the timing and decision on the actual surgery is very carefully chosen.
Top Twins prospects ? 1.Byron Buxton (OF-A+)
2.Miguel Sano (3B-AA) 3.Alex Meyer (SP-AA) 4. Kohl Stewart (SP-RK) 5. Nick Gordon (SS-RK) 6. J.O. Berrios (P-A) 7. Josmil Pinto (C-AAA) 8. Eddie Rosario (2B-AA) 9. L. Thorpe (SP-RK) 10. Travis Harrison (3B-A) 11.Kennys Vargas (1B-A+) 12. Trevor May (SP-AA) 13. Jorge Polanco (2B-A) 14. Max Kepler (OF-A) 15. Miguel Sulbaran (SP-A) Just Missed:P Zach Jones, SS Aderlin Mejia, P Stephen Gonsalves, C Stuart Turner.

#28 shs_59

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Posted 28 February 2014 - 05:30 PM

Either way it looks like much of if NOT ALL OF Miguel's 2014 is a lost season.

Rosario has the short end of it it turns out.

Miguel should not play a single game in 2014, if he's not 100% healthy.
Top Twins prospects ? 1.Byron Buxton (OF-A+)
2.Miguel Sano (3B-AA) 3.Alex Meyer (SP-AA) 4. Kohl Stewart (SP-RK) 5. Nick Gordon (SS-RK) 6. J.O. Berrios (P-A) 7. Josmil Pinto (C-AAA) 8. Eddie Rosario (2B-AA) 9. L. Thorpe (SP-RK) 10. Travis Harrison (3B-A) 11.Kennys Vargas (1B-A+) 12. Trevor May (SP-AA) 13. Jorge Polanco (2B-A) 14. Max Kepler (OF-A) 15. Miguel Sulbaran (SP-A) Just Missed:P Zach Jones, SS Aderlin Mejia, P Stephen Gonsalves, C Stuart Turner.

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Posted 28 February 2014 - 05:34 PM

[FONT=arial]I have often been as skeptical as most of the Twins medical and training staff but I really don't think there is anything to be critical about here.

As stated in the Berardino blog:[/FONT]


[FONT=arial]There was some discussion between Sano’s camp and the Twins about having Tommy John surgery at that point, which might have put him back on a field sometime during the first half of the 2014 season.
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[FONT=arial]Sano traveled to the Twin Cities for a full exam in November and also went to see noted orthopedist Dr. James Andrews in Birmingham, Ala. The decision was made at that time to keep Sano shut down from all throwing until his elbow improved with rest.

For anyone who has been living in a cave and hasn't heard Dr. Andrews' name previously, here's an interesting interview with him: http://msn.foxsports...-andrews-011414

He is basically the "gold standard" of orthopedic surgeons. Despite all of the advances in medicine, there is still a lot of "art" to go along with the science especially when it comes to diagnosis and appropriate treatment.

I've had several relatives and friends who died either in routine surgery or shortly thereafter -- these were otherwise healthy people who died of reactions to tests, untreatable post-op infection, etc.

NO SURGERY is entirely without risk -- even for someone young and healthy. And yes, there have been players for whom the "wait and see" game has worked. We just don't hear about them as often as those who undergo the knife.
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Posted 28 February 2014 - 05:43 PM

I hope they don't play the wait and see game.

When was the last time that worked??


Meyer.