Posted 20 February 2014 - 08:44 PM
Posted 20 February 2014 - 09:22 PM
I don't think this draft will produce 4 #1 college pitchers and no college bat is exciting enough to take that early. So the Twins best case is getting the top HS arm (again). But the HS season will certainly change some perceptions.
Posted 20 February 2014 - 09:53 PM
This far out, I'm definitely still thinking more about who I want to be the logical pick for us rather than who will be the logical pick for us. It feels too early for me to wrap my head around these players' actual abilities.
Edited by Wookiee of the Year, 20 February 2014 - 10:34 PM.
Posted 20 February 2014 - 09:59 PM
Posted 20 February 2014 - 10:14 PM
When I think college SS, I think Nomar Garciaparra. It can happen.
Posted 20 February 2014 - 11:42 PM
Posted 21 February 2014 - 02:20 AM
Both Aiken and Toussaint could make moves.
Posted 21 February 2014 - 07:01 AM
That said, I have to think at 5 the Twins will want highest upside. I'd look at Gatewood or Kolek personally unless by some miracle Hoffman or Rodon fall. Got to say that Turner doesn't excite me unless he suddenly shows the ability to hit for some power.
Posted 21 February 2014 - 07:35 AM
Posted 21 February 2014 - 08:08 AM
Posted 21 February 2014 - 08:40 AM
The Levi Michael comparison will probably keep coming up as long as there is speculation about the Twins drafting Turner. I think it's worth noting that Michael was something like the 30th pick in his draft. If Turner has a reasonable case as BPA at the 5th pick in 2014 (and if he doesn't, I can't see the Twins reaching down for him with that high a pick), then he's in a different class than Michael and can be considered a surer thing.
I think the Turner/Michael comps will come. Here are their college stats. The glaring difference is speed. Turner is an 80 speed guy. His freshman SB total is probably a better reflection given he had an ankle issue last year. He is 5-5 in SB attempts this year in just 4 games.
Regardig his defense, I read Turner should stay at SS, has the footwork, range, and arm.
Freshman - .338 average, 5 HR, .891 OPS, 57 SB
Sophomore - .368 average, 7 HR, 1.008 OPS, 30 SB
Freshman - .290 avg, 13 HR, .909 OPS, 5 SB
Sophomore - .346 avg, 9 HR, 1.059 OPS, 20 SB
Junior - .305 avg, 4 HR, .911 OPS, 14 SB
I would be very happy with Turner or one of the flamethrowing guys like Kolek or Hoffman.
Posted 21 February 2014 - 09:07 AM
Posted 21 February 2014 - 09:22 AM
Posted 21 February 2014 - 09:55 AM
Would you be gun-shy about making the same mistake that was made when Levi Michael was drafted? Would you trust that same signing scout? Interesting questions to consider, obviously, and while I think they are two completely different players, the microscope will be fixed closer on Trae Turner.
I wouldn't worry at all about the scout. I woudln't have any thoughts about Michael with this pick. It's very silly to do so. However, the scouting reports, as I read them, for Michael reminded me of Nick Punto. At #30, that's not so bad... At #5 overall, that is not the scouting report I would want to read. I'm with those who say Kolek is the direction... At least that type of player where there is a ton of upside!
Posted 21 February 2014 - 09:59 AM
If Turner is in the discussion as one of the 10 best players, that is a very different conversation than was occurring with Michael. It's just not a realistic comparison, imo. I'd be happy for him to be great this year. It means they either get him, or a pitcher falls because someone else took him. Win. Win.
Agreed on the comp, Turner looks much more promising.
Posted 21 February 2014 - 10:06 AM
Posted 21 February 2014 - 10:17 AM
If Jackson can stick at catcher with a plus bat, he'd be a nice fit for the system and with Pinto looking like a MLB-quality player the team could give him time to really learn the position and develop his bat. Love to know more about him and whether or not people think he's the real deal.
Turner doesn't look like a Levi Michael type to me and SS is a position where you can never have too many prospects. I like the speed and if the bat is legit he could do really well.
Posted 21 February 2014 - 10:55 AM
Luke Weaver is definitely the most surprising name on the list, but was ranked 5th by Big League Futures back in September, so he hasn't gone completely without notice. He reportedly hit 97 over the summer (I don't remember where that was reported but it was reputable), though most reports have had him as a low 90s fastball guy. If that bumps into the mid 90s with plus command I can see him being ranked that high.
Posted 21 February 2014 - 11:20 AM
I'm interested in both Jackson & Turner.
If Jackson can stick at catcher with a plus bat, he'd be a nice fit for the system and with Pinto looking like a MLB-quality player the team could give him time to really learn the position and develop his bat..
I think it was Keith Law that said Jackson wants to move out from catcher.