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#1 Seth Stohs

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Posted 11 February 2014 - 02:28 AM

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Posted 11 February 2014 - 05:44 AM

Interesting he worked on strength. Hope that doesn't make him slower.
Is he going to continue being a switch hitter?

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Posted 11 February 2014 - 07:55 AM

Hopefully, he will just do whatever the hell Sir Rodney tells him to do!

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Posted 11 February 2014 - 08:15 AM

Does anyone else see a lot of similarities between Hicks and Dozier? Both had really bad rookie years, got sent down and did not get called back in September. Dozier was being written off last year at this time just the way Hicks is now. Dozier came out and had a really solid 2nd year. I have high hopes that Hicks will do the same. He has the talent to do it. I would love to see an outfield in August of Hicks, Buxton and Arcia.

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Posted 11 February 2014 - 08:46 AM

Sounds like Hicks has his feet firmly planted on the ground. I know he caught some flak over not playing winter ball, but I have no problem with what he decided. This is his career and who can argue that spending 3-4 days a week working with Carew is not as beneficial as playing what are essentially meaningless games in foreign countries for teams interested solely in winning games, rather than working on improving his skills.

Stumbling in your first exposure to MLB isn't new, nor is it fatal for your career. Denard Span, Michael Cuddyer and others have had false starts, regrouped and gone on to successful careers. Maybe Hicks will, too. If so, it would be huge for the Twins in 2014 and beyond.

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Posted 11 February 2014 - 08:48 AM

Interesting he worked on strength. Hope that doesn't make him slower.
Is he going to continue being a switch hitter?


Of course.... it's never really been a question... only with fans.

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Posted 11 February 2014 - 08:49 AM

Hopefully, he will just do whatever the hell Sir Rodney tells him to do!


Because of Carew's track record as a hitting coach? I'm kidding, but it's great to have someone to just bounce things off of, and to be able to talk to... especially when the guy is a Hall of Famer.

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Posted 11 February 2014 - 08:51 AM

Does anyone else see a lot of similarities between Hicks and Dozier? Both had really bad rookie years, got sent down and did not get called back in September. Dozier was being written off last year at this time just the way Hicks is now. Dozier came out and had a really solid 2nd year. I have high hopes that Hicks will do the same. He has the talent to do it. I would love to see an outfield in August of Hicks, Buxton and Arcia.


There certainly are a lot of similarities... It's probably not fair to either of them to assume the results will be the same, but I think giving up on Hicks based on 2013 would be completely silly.

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Posted 11 February 2014 - 08:52 AM

I have a lot of hope for Mr. Hicks, I think he will be very good and figure things out. Last year didn't work out for him. Doesn't mean this year won't . Sounds like he has a bit of chip on his shoulder which is always a good thing for an athlete to have. I think he will be a lot better then people give him credit for

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Posted 11 February 2014 - 08:59 AM

Hicks's experience should serve to sober the enthusiasts of Twins' prospect's MiL statistics--"it's a whole new game" as they say.

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Posted 11 February 2014 - 09:02 AM

Hick's seemed to have a hole in his swing last year as i remember saying to myself I hope he just makes contact when he was up to bat. Just making contact would be an improvement. I was surprised by his power last year and if he is bulking up that should only help that even more. Is the bulk up an admission that he likely will need to play a corner position and need to hit for more power? I really like his athleticism and if he makes it I believe he will be good for a long time and a big part of maybe the best outfield the Twins have ever had. This truly is a big year for him.

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Posted 11 February 2014 - 09:24 AM

Interesting he worked on strength. Hope that doesn't make him slower.
Is he going to continue being a switch hitter?


Is what if he has a superman spring...he will still be sent down to AAA because once again we wont know if its real...

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Posted 11 February 2014 - 09:37 AM

I still have a lot of hope for Hicks, and would really like to see him in the Twins OF this season. I think the team will need his defense and to be brutally honest I'd really like it if I didn't see Willingham rumbling around out there. Hopefully, he's made some adjustments and will have a better approach at the plate.

While I liked his patience and willingness to take pitches, it seemed like he put himself too far in the hole and really paralyzed himself up there until he eventually would flail at something. Mentally he was a mess at the plate. Hopefully, Carew & Brunansky can get him settled down so he can use his talent.

I really think Hicks is going to be a mainstay in the OF. He can hold down CF just fine until Buxton is ready, and I think he'll hit enough to slide over to a corner slot and give the team a solid defensive alignment even with Arcia in one of the other corner slots. It's worked for the Twins before, when Gomez & Span covered 3/4 of the OF on their own and gave Kubel or Cuddyer some relief from having to chase down everything.

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Posted 11 February 2014 - 10:12 AM

Does anyone else see a lot of similarities between Hicks and Dozier? Both had really bad rookie years, got sent down and did not get called back in September.


I seem to remember reading stories that Dozier had reached out to Hicks to encourage him after he got sent down in kind of "been there, lived through it and made it back" kind of way.

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Posted 11 February 2014 - 10:17 AM

Good to hear about him and Carew.

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Posted 11 February 2014 - 10:23 AM

Of course you don't give up on the guy. Ideally, he would have to earn his way back to the majors by succeeding in the minors but Pressley doesn't excite me at all. We know hicks still plays good D and we know he has good power. I suspect he will start in the minors but even a month of hitting .270 or better will get him back up.

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Posted 11 February 2014 - 10:34 AM

Hicks's experience should serve to sober the enthusiasts of Twins' prospect's MiL statistics--"it's a whole new game" as they say.


Another way to see it, Kwak, is that guys like Hunter and Cuddyer stumbled out of the gates. It's a common occurance. Therefore there's little logic in taking a sober view towards Hicks just yet.

Someone (cmath?) posted BA's top 10 Twins prospects from 2008 in another thread, juxtaposing it with our 2014 top 10. Virtually everyone will agree that the 2014 group is vastly superior. And yet, every single prospect on the rather unimpressive 2008 list had at least a cup of coffee in MLB. So, when I see the stats and read the scouting reports on the 2014 group, it doesn't sober me, it excites me. Hick's experience is completely irrelevant to me.

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Posted 11 February 2014 - 11:00 AM

I still hold out quite a bit of hope for him, though I do think that regardless of how he does this spring, he starts in Rochester and gets the call after he's earned it. I'd rather not have a repeat of last year.

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Posted 11 February 2014 - 11:09 AM

Hicks took batting practice the last 2 days. They take 4 rounds of 5 swings. Yesterday his first three rounds were from the left side and the last the right. Today I only watched his first which again was from the left.

I'd really like him to pick it up and start with the Twins. We need all the sticks we can get.

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Posted 11 February 2014 - 12:19 PM

Hicks should get a ton of reps this year at AAA and MLB to see what he can do. There came a point last year where everything got in his head. The way I see it, if he has good speed and a great arm. If he can be a .260 BA/.330 OBP guy with those assets he is a starting CF in this league and would at a minimum could be traded. If he is a .280/.350 guy with 20-30 SB, and a great arm and range he could probably be worth a shot in LF or RF.

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Posted 11 February 2014 - 12:57 PM

All the stats on the back of his baseball card count. But if you are trying to use his 2013 season at age 23 to forecast what's to come, I think he (more than most) deserves a closer look. I've posted this before, but it gives me comfort to review it again. :)

By my reading of his game log, there was a six week stretch starting in late April where his OPS was almost .700. Not bad for that age. Then he got hurt and was out three weeks. When he came back, he seemed to pick up where he left off and posted OPS above .800 for a couple of weeks.

After the All Star break he was really terrible at bat, and I believe it was said he had some physical issues again sometime before being sent to AAA after July. Because he had been clearly getting himself out, the first two weeks in April, and then had a bizarre week right after that where his OBP was .476 based on top of a .167 BA, presumably having adjusted to the pitchers' approach to him, the start and end of his season combined for horrifying numbers.

If that's cherry picking, so be it, but the Small Sample Size of 29 games where he stunk was smaller than the Small Sample Size of 52 games where he was a useful major league player. He still, to me, has fantastic promise.

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Posted 11 February 2014 - 01:06 PM

All the stats on the back of his baseball card count. But if you are trying to use his 2013 season at age 23 to forecast what's to come, I think he (more than most) deserves a closer look. I've posted this before, but it gives me comfort to review it again. :)

By my reading of his game log, there was a six week stretch starting in late April where his OPS was almost .700. Not bad for that age. Then he got hurt and was out three weeks. When he came back, he seemed to pick up where he left off and posted OPS above .800 for a couple of weeks.

After the All Star break he was really terrible at bat, and I believe it was said he had some physical issues again sometime before being sent to AAA after July. Because he had been clearly getting himself out, the first two weeks in April, and then had a bizarre week right after that where his OBP was .476 based on top of a .167 BA, presumably having adjusted to the pitchers' approach to him, the start and end of his season combined for horrifying numbers.

If that's cherry picking, so be it, but the Small Sample Size of 29 games where he stunk was smaller than the Small Sample Size of 52 games where he was a useful major league player. He still, to me, has fantastic promise.


Great Post... I love combing through Game Logs... There is a bunch of useful information looking at days by days.

Hicks will be a Solid Twin for a long time. If it's this year is up to Aaron.
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Posted 11 February 2014 - 02:03 PM

Great Post... I love combing through Game Logs... There is a bunch of useful information looking at days by days.

Hicks will be a Solid Twin for a long time. If it's this year is up to Aaron.


I think 2013 was a bit of an abberation as well. You just get the feeling that he is too talented to be as bad as he was last year.

It seems like he has the talent to at least be average in most offensive categories, with plus range/arm.

.270-.280 Average
20-25 SB
.330-.340 OBP
15 HR
25 2B

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Posted 11 February 2014 - 02:15 PM

"Hicks's experience should serve to sober the enthusiasts of Twins' prospect's MiL statistics--"it's a whole new game" as they say." I see no reason for it to sober my view. First off the Hicks experience is quite possibly still in the very early stages. Secondly, Hicks was never ranked as high as these other guys. I accept that some may not make it in the majors but expect that some ranked below Hicks will make it. Purely my own opinion but I think he would have been better off focusing just hitting right handed rather than pushing the switch hitting. Of course we will never know if my position is right or wrong ( I suppose the same could be said about Mantle and Murray.) I also am looking forward to an outfield of Hicks, Rosario and Buxton. I've seen enough of Willingham, Young and Arcia. The difference between getting to balls no one expects you to get, and not getting to balls that should be fairly routine, is pretty huge.

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Posted 11 February 2014 - 02:21 PM

Stumbling in your first exposure to MLB isn't new, nor is it fatal for your career. Denard Span, Michael Cuddyer and others have had false starts, regrouped and gone on to successful careers.


Span and Cuddyer? That's a pretty wide definition of "false start" or "stumbling". Both of those guys were league-average or better hitters after, at most, 20-30 MLB plate appearances.

Dozier is obviously the better comp -- basically, you've got to have a disastrous first MLB season (and a fairly disastrous first AAA season makes the comp even better). Unfortunately for Hicks, Dozier's rebound is definitely in the minority among such players...

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Posted 11 February 2014 - 02:35 PM

Span and Cuddyer? That's a pretty wide definition of "false start" or "stumbling". Both of those guys were league-average or better hitters after, at most, 20-30 MLB plate appearances.

Dozier is obviously the better comp -- basically, you've got to have a disastrous first MLB season (and a fairly disastrous first AAA season makes the comp even better). Unfortunately for Hicks, Dozier's rebound is definitely in the minority among such players...


Actually Cuddyer was up and down in 2002 and 2003 so pretty good comparison. If Hicks gets a shot this year and does well. and he is regular in corner OF next year that would be good. I think it is possible.

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Posted 11 February 2014 - 02:37 PM

Of course.... it's never really been a question... only with fans.


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Posted 11 February 2014 - 02:37 PM

All we really know is that he was bad last year, really bad. We also know that he walked a good amount in the minors, and that until he shows he can hit MLB strikes, that won't happen in the majors. So it's all about the swing, can he fix the swing or not. Oh, and his defense was not elite as advertised, that needs to improve, imo. But he's certainly way too young to give up on, but then, I don't know anyone that has done so.
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Posted 11 February 2014 - 03:02 PM

Actually Cuddyer was up and down in 2002 and 2003 so pretty good comparison. If Hicks gets a shot this year and does well. and he is regular in corner OF next year that would be good. I think it is possible.


A few trips between AAA and MLB does not mean the guy had a false start or stumbled. After his 20 PA cup of coffee, Cuddyer was a league average MLB hitter. Span was above average after his first 30 PA month.

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Posted 11 February 2014 - 03:21 PM

I should of mentioned in my earlier post that I doubt Mastro will be any competition this spring. He was limping around pretty bad for a part of this morning. His ankle is still giving him problems. I hate to see that after last year, but I think he'll be on limited action when Gardy gets here. He did take batting practice and shagged in the outfield and looked normal, but after earlier warm ups he was really hurting.