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#1 edavis0308

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Posted 24 January 2014 - 09:14 AM

It has been creeping up in the news that the Twins are apparently checking into another free agent, according to Wolfson. Has anyone else heard more regarding this?

https://twitter.com/...706304590045185

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Posted 24 January 2014 - 09:31 AM

Stephen Drew makes the most sense. I read where the Red Sox are likely out on him and the Yankees are now too. Who else is chasing him?????
If they get Arroyo, I think Correa is traded for a bench bat. I would rather have Kendry Morales than Cruz. If we sign a bat other than Drew, does that mean Kubel isn't making the team as the DH? Or would he just be a pinch hitter/extra outfielder. Kubel, Willingham and Arcia rotating in the outfield would make the centerfielder's job kind of rough.



It has been creeping up in the news that the Twins are apparently checking into another free agent, according to Wolfson. Has anyone else heard more regarding this?

https://twitter.com/...706304590045185


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Posted 24 January 2014 - 09:59 AM

I can't see the Twins going after someone who will cost them a draft choice. This year's draft is very deep. Drew is not worth a draft choice. I could see Arroyo or a 3B type - Placido Polanco, Justin Turner or Michael Young. Semi-big names, not great players, but maybe a guy to push Plouffe.

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Posted 24 January 2014 - 10:12 AM

Turner and Young have versatility. I don't know if Polanco could be considered anything other than a 3B (I know he played second back in the day). Having a RH hitter to play first and another position would be nice, although it may end up being Plouffe.

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Posted 24 January 2014 - 10:13 AM

It appears to be a player that has already been mentioned as someone the Twins are interested in:

"Darren Wolfson of 1500 ESPN talked with Twins manager Ron Gardenhire yesterday and was told the team is circling back with one more notable free agent. "[Assistant GM] Rob [Antony] just called me the other day and told me they were gonna make another run at a guy, and I'm like, 'Wow that's pretty good,'" said Gardenhire. "So they did it, and whether it works out or not we'll see, and they're not done. ... They're after it. I know that." Wolfson's hunch is that Gardenhire is not referring to Ubaldo Jimenez or Ervin Santana, but rather a bat or Bronson Arroyo"

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Posted 24 January 2014 - 10:17 AM

Milwaukee hasn't signed Garza quite yet!

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Posted 24 January 2014 - 10:20 AM

I just saw this too over at traderumors. I really think it's gotta be Drew. I don't think Arroyo makes any sense as I gotta feel the Twins want to give Worley/Diamond/Deduno another shot. Arroyo isn't enough of an upgrade to not give those guys another shot. If either of those guys can be decent that's a cheap backend SP for us for the next 3-4 years. We don't have anyone close at SS right now and I know this argument was hashed out earlier but I don't think the value of a 2nd round pick is so high it keeps us from signing a guy like Drew.

What if we're circling around on Garza now that talks with Brewers apparently hit a snag? Now that would be a sizeable enough upgrade to be worth getting rid of Correia or letting our optionless guys walk.

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Posted 24 January 2014 - 10:21 AM

Agree with ppearson50, I'm more interested in Kendrys Morales than Cruz or Drew. He would be an improvement on Kubel/Parmelee/Colabello at DH. At 3 years/$12M, or 2 years/$9M I'd consider giving up the draft pick.

Kendrys passed on 1 year $14M, so maybe he wouldn't bite on these offers. On the other hand, where else is he going to play?

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Posted 24 January 2014 - 10:34 AM

Kendrys costs a draft pick?

Here's kind of a crazy idea. What if they went after both Kendrys and Drew. Give up the 2nd and 3rd round pick. Improve your DH/bench plus add a solid SS. Maybe I'm just getting greedy now.

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Posted 24 January 2014 - 10:43 AM

Drew would be a significant upgrade at SS. Florimon's bat provided negative value last year and defensively the two are a wash. I think Drew's anemic post season hitting sounded alarms for some teams. If we can sign him at $9-12 mil/year for 3 years we should pull the trigger. If we sign Garza then I suspect we will look to trade a SP by the deadline next year.

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Posted 24 January 2014 - 10:51 AM

Here's the enitre 2nd Tweet from Wolfson:
(1 of 2) Gardy: "Rob just called me the other day & told me they were gonna make another run at a guy & I'm like wow that's pretty good..."

Let's not get too excited. The key word phrase there might be "the other day." If asked two days ago, I would have thought Garza was the name. In that case the Twins may have circled back, failed to give the 4th year and the ship sailed.

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Posted 24 January 2014 - 10:57 AM

Drew would be a significant upgrade at SS. Florimon's bat provided negative value last year and defensively the two are a wash. I think Drew's anemic post season hitting sounded alarms for some teams. If we can sign him at $9-12 mil/year for 3 years we should pull the trigger. If we sign Garza then I suspect we will look to trade a SP by the deadline next year.


No, it's Drew's awful splits against lefties and his inability to stay on the field that souns the alarms. He needs to be a platoon player; a guy who hasn't played 130 games in four years and puts up .196/.246/.340 against lefties shouldn't be making much more than Jamey Carroll but his agent is Scott Boras so he'll get closer to Troy Tulowitzki.

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Posted 24 January 2014 - 11:03 AM

Kendrys costs a draft pick?

Here's kind of a crazy idea. What if they went after both Kendrys and Drew. Give up the 2nd and 3rd round pick. Improve your DH/bench plus add a solid SS. Maybe I'm just getting greedy now.


This is what the Yankees did in 2008 or 2009. They signed CC, Teixera, and Burnett in the same off-season. Instead of 3 first round picks, they lost a 1, 2, and 3.

YOY, Drew over Florimon and Morales/Cruz over Parmalee/Doumit at DH has to be a 4-6 win improvement. If we could only do one I would prefer Drew.

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Posted 24 January 2014 - 11:06 AM

I would think its got to be Drew. Nobody else makes much sense. i read a story the other day the Twins wanted to improve offense. And Drew is willing to play multiple positions

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Posted 24 January 2014 - 11:12 AM

I don't think Gardy would say "wow" over a fourth SP. I agree that this sounds like Drew. Or maybe Garza. But a hitter seems more likely to generate that reaction. IMO.

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Posted 24 January 2014 - 11:12 AM

If the Twins sign either Drew or Morales, then it makes even more sense at that point to get the other guy as well. The 3rd rd pick argument holds even less weight than the 2nd rd pick.

They'd both be improvements over what we have, but these deals would need to be at figures lower than previously expected to really make sense for the Twins right now IMO. Drew for no more than 3 years and Morales for no more than 2 with both at sub-$10M AAVs.

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Posted 24 January 2014 - 11:14 AM

Cruz could be an interesting play if you can get him on a one year "prove it" deal.

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Posted 24 January 2014 - 11:15 AM

I saw on Yahoo today that now the Yanks have passed the luxury mark, that they were going to make a run at Drew.

http://sports.yahoo....08104--mlb.html

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Posted 24 January 2014 - 11:16 AM

If the Twins don't like giving up a draft pick, maybe they could work out a trade with Boston to balance the loss of the pick?

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Posted 24 January 2014 - 11:17 AM

Hopefully the Twins instead swoop a 55 mill offer on Garza instead of wasting any type of money on Arroyo. I have no prob though if they go for drew or young tho.

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Posted 24 January 2014 - 11:20 AM

I saw on Yahoo today that now the Yanks have passed the luxury mark, that they were going to make a run at Drew.

http://sports.yahoo....08104--mlb.html


And no mention of the Twins having interest with the Mets, Jays and A's.

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Posted 24 January 2014 - 11:25 AM

Cruz could be an interesting play if you can get him on a one year "prove it" deal.


Any idea on how Cruz will hit without the Biogenesis stuff? That, the draft pick and the message the Twins will send signing a PED user, makes me think that it is not happening. On the other hand, even though his arm is not good any more, he will be a better LF than Willingham. RF not much so.
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Posted 24 January 2014 - 11:41 AM

Rather then Drew or Cruz, I would like to see Diaz,Garza,Yenier Bello in that order.
If we sign Garza, that means Correia is avalible for trade ,and both Baltimore and Huston need a veteran starter yet, and both have catchers we could use in,Johnny Monell and Stassi

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Posted 24 January 2014 - 12:01 PM

Any idea on how Cruz will hit without the Biogenesis stuff? That, the draft pick and the message the Twins will send signing a PED user, makes me think that it is not happening. On the other hand, even though his arm is not good any more, he will be a better LF than Willingham. RF not much so.


Well if he was a sure thing, then you obviously couldn't get him on a below market deal and he most likely would be looking at 3-4 year deal.

As far as the draft pick goes....if he proves to be effective/good, then the Twins can recoup a pick the following year if they make him a qualifying offer. Or they could always trade him for a good prospect anyways.

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Posted 24 January 2014 - 12:23 PM

Cruz could be an interesting play if you can get him on a one year "prove it" deal.


So you would give up a draft pick to sign a PEDs user to a 1 year contract?
And how much would you be willing to give him?

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Posted 24 January 2014 - 12:33 PM

The mention of "a bat" is what caught my ears... guessing it's Drew. If they actually platooned him with Floirmon/Plouffe, could be a good pick-up, depending on the terms, of course.

Yanquis are way past the limit, so the speculation there seems like an afterthought- not necessarily a bidding war w/them. Twins could prevail, but then, they're made of money.

TR's newfound agressivenes is the big puzzle, and very hard not to psychoanalyze. Only when the offseason is done can we really read the tea leaves...
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Posted 24 January 2014 - 12:34 PM

I think it's Michael Young because the Twins need someone to challenge Plouffe for the starting job at 3rd, they need veteran leadership, and also Michael is still a solid player. I don't understand why some people are saying he should sign as a utility player, I hope we sign him, we could be missing out on a very good player.

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Posted 24 January 2014 - 12:44 PM

The Michael Young suggestion is a fresh take which I really appreciate. I'd love Young on a year at 3B over a Cruz Drew or Morales signing.

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Posted 24 January 2014 - 12:53 PM

Michael Young would NOT be a good move for many reasons.
1. He has been a negative WAR player the last two years.
2. He is 37
3. His "bat" skill has been below average the last two years and will only continue to decline.
4. Defensively he has been very bad at 3B the past few years.

In summation: He isn't likely better than Plouffe at this point, hitting or fielding wise, and Sano likely will be up in June/July anyways. He doesn't play defense well enough, or hit well enough to justify a bench spot at this point.

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Posted 24 January 2014 - 01:04 PM

I'll throw out another name as someone we're circling back on - Johann