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#1 Nick Nelson

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Posted 10 January 2014 - 10:10 AM

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Posted 10 January 2014 - 10:21 AM

In other words, more precaution should've taken place in July, perhaps recognized he needed to get surgery then, meaning he would be in his 6th month of recovery right now? If there were concerns about his elbow, there is no way they should've sent him to DWL, which means he must've appeared to make a full recovery from his initial soreness/fatigue. Not sure if the Twins Medical staff is to blame here.

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Posted 10 January 2014 - 10:21 AM

You would think, they'd like to find out as soon as possible for this. If he needs the surgery, have it immediately, maybe get some action in July, Aug, or Sept for him so the entire year isn't lost.

Hate thinking about this.

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Posted 10 January 2014 - 10:30 AM

And this is one of many reasons why you can't build your entire philosophy around waiting for your prospects to work out all at the same time.......because there usually isn't a perfect storm of "every prospect working out" and "the one FA I need is available"....

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Posted 10 January 2014 - 10:33 AM

Roberto Alomar
Jay Buhner
Jose Canseco
Shin-Soo Choo
Carl Crawford
Rafael Furcal
Luis Gonzalez
Jose Guillen
Todd Hundley
et al.
Had TJ surgery and recovered pretty nicely.
Lets hope that this is nothing as far as Sano goes.

#6 Lefty

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Posted 10 January 2014 - 10:34 AM

I wonder if they shut him down as just a precautionary thing? I would think that if they looked at it and gave him a "clean bill of health" that it probably is clean. I don't think they'd take any chances on "The Future." If not, they're not doing him any favors by making him wait until spring training to find out.

I also don't wanna think about this! Ever since starting to log on and read on twinsdaily I find myself staring at prospects and wondering what we'll be like down the road. It's exciting to think of these prospects as being Cabrera and Trout in 2016, but they're just prospects at this point. I wish I could get more excited about the big league club right NOW.

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Posted 10 January 2014 - 10:55 AM

Part of me wants them to decide to just do the surgery now. My nightmare for this is that they wait a couple more months before pulling out the blades. This shouldn't be that hard to diagnose. There should be lots of data on how injuries like this heal and what to expect. If this type of injury has any tendency to linger if surgery is not performed than he should get cut now. If they do perform surgery in a couple of months than somebody(s) need to look for other lines of work.

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Posted 10 January 2014 - 11:02 AM

The Twins medical staff has done nothing in the past seasons to inspire confidence in their decision-making, so Sano's elbow makes me incredibly nervous. how many times have they botched one?!?

Ugh.

#9 TheLeviathan

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Posted 10 January 2014 - 11:34 AM

I feel like I've heard this version of events before.......which means his operation should happen in July of 2015 after extensive rest and rehab.

Something like that.

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Posted 10 January 2014 - 11:39 AM

Given Sano's hitting prowess and the fact it might not be clear what to do with the elbow, why not exclusively DH him for the first few months? No throwing at all allowed for some time, then get surgery after the year if it doesn't get better.

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Posted 10 January 2014 - 12:15 PM

I'd think if there is continuing pain we'd know about it pretty soon. He's working out in the weight room now under the eyes of Perry C. and other trainers. If they spot something he would be shut down.

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Posted 10 January 2014 - 12:41 PM

The Twins medical staff has done nothing in the past seasons to inspire confidence in their decision-making, so Sano's elbow makes me incredibly nervous. how many times have they botched one?!?

Ugh.


I may be mis-remembering, but didn't Sano go visit Dr. Andrews, and he basically recommended how the Twins move forward... check him in December, check him in January, go from there? Can't really blame the Twins medical staff, though it is fun, I guess.

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Posted 10 January 2014 - 01:11 PM

I may be mis-remembering, but didn't Sano go visit Dr. Andrews, and he basically recommended how the Twins move forward... check him in December, check him in January, go from there? Can't really blame the Twins medical staff, though it is fun, I guess.


He saw Andrews sometime before November: http://www.milb.com/...&vkey=news_milb


Not sure when or if he has seen him since.

Always have to remember that even though a lot of medicine is science, there is still some art involved as well.

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Posted 10 January 2014 - 01:12 PM

I'm waiting on the article predicting the amputation.

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Posted 10 January 2014 - 01:13 PM

Thing A has happened 9 out of 10 times. Ergo, thing A is going to happen this time. Faulty logic.
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#16 Jim Crikket

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Posted 10 January 2014 - 01:18 PM

Sano not being a pitcher makes this a whole different thing, I think. Like it or not, the accepted medical approach for this kind of strain/spran/stretch of the UCL appears to be rest-recheck-throw and if all else fails, do surgery. You may skip some of the process for a pitcher who would have perhaps twice the recovery time, but for a position player, I don't think you rush to surgery.

Honestly, even if the doctors decided right now that surgery is likely to be needed, I think I'd rather have Sano start spring training and try to get a couple of months of baseball in at AA-AAA, even if it's almost all at DH. Then he could have surgery in June-July and still be good to go to open 2015 spring training. That seems preferable to me over doing surgery now and essentially losing his entire 2014 of development at the plate against high-minors pitching.

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Posted 10 January 2014 - 02:13 PM

Thing A has happened 9 out of 10 times. Ergo, thing A is going to happen this time. Faulty logic.


Except for that time it didn't happen to Alex Meyer and everyone predicted it would.

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Posted 10 January 2014 - 02:41 PM

Except for that time it didn't happen to Alex Meyer and everyone predicted it would.


That was the 10th time. The other 9:

Mays, Milton, Liriano, Neshek, Blackburn, Slowey, Gibson, Wimmers, Deduno

Milton was a knee and Deduno was a shoulder. But the other seven were UCLs.
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Posted 10 January 2014 - 02:48 PM

Just move Mauer to 3rd now ....

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Posted 10 January 2014 - 03:08 PM

I feel as though TR has the tendency to speak rather conservatively or cautiously at times (and rightly so, I do appreciate his methodical approach). This was one of those instances.

Here's what's important. We have no reason, as of now, to be any more alarmed about his elbow than we did when he got shut down in winter ball. If anything, we should be more optimistic given that he received a clean bill of health in mid December. This next check is part of the program he is on-- it is NOT a reaction to any newfound or recent tweaks. Everything is going according to plan. Perhaps he will require TJ, but we have no reason to suspect that more than we did at the beginning of December.