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Game 16- Twins @ Rays - 4/22/12

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#1 Seth Stohs

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Posted 22 April 2012 - 09:21 AM

Twins hope to win a series in Tampa. Here is the lineup they'll go with: Denard Span CF Jamey Carroll SS Joe Mauer C Josh Willingham LF Justin Morneau DH Chris Parmelee 1B Danny Valencia 3B Clete Thomas RF Alexi Casilla 2B SP: Francisco Liriano Rays Lineup: Desmond Jennings LF Ben Zobrist RF Carlos Pena 1B Evan Longoria 3B Jeff Keppinger DH BJ Upton CF Sean Rodriguez SS Chris Gimenez C Elliot Johnson 2B SP: Jeff Niemann

#2 stringer bell

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Posted 22 April 2012 - 09:25 AM

Ok, I've seen enough of Clete Thomas now. Too many whiffs so far, although he does show decent pop.

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Posted 22 April 2012 - 09:58 AM

No way Velencia is in my lineup. I can't help assume that Gardy is killing Velencia by not providingconsequence for his lack of performance.

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Posted 22 April 2012 - 10:36 AM

In the spirit of arm chair second guessing, would have liked to have seen Burroughs at 3rd and Doumit in RF (preferably Morneau at 1st, Parmelee in RF and Doumit DH but I get not playing Morneau with the foot).

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Posted 22 April 2012 - 10:48 AM

I thought carroll, Mayer,Morneau, willingham, or at least a couple of them were due for a day off.... Maybe there's a sense of ugency to get this win today? Not your typical gardy Sunday lineup

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Posted 22 April 2012 - 11:10 AM

Minus Valencia at 3rd, it's close to their best defensive lineup right now. Maybe Gardy just wants to put the best team around Frankie to keep him from unravelling, just hope no one hits one down the 3rd base line.

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Posted 22 April 2012 - 11:30 AM

In the spirit of arm chair second guessing, would have liked to have seen Burroughs at 3rd and Doumit in RF (preferably Morneau at 1st, Parmelee in RF and Doumit DH but I get not playing Morneau with the foot).


Almost agree. Isn't it time to give Willingham a breather? If Morneau was at first, I'd lime to see Parmalee in right. Thomas in left and Willingham DH.

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Posted 22 April 2012 - 11:41 AM

I don't think we'll see Mauer Doumit and Parmelee in the same lineup ever again. Doumit's ABs from RF are going to be few and far between now that Clete is apparently the primary (and platoon with Plouffe) RF.
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Posted 22 April 2012 - 12:00 PM

Having to watch the game on Gameday (at work). Morneau's out was listed first-to-second-to-first... did they try for the double play and miss Willingham at second?

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Posted 22 April 2012 - 12:09 PM

Valencia is 0-8 with 3 K's career against Niemann, shoulda gave him the day off.

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Posted 22 April 2012 - 12:12 PM

Clete watch: 0/1 K (looking)
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Posted 22 April 2012 - 12:15 PM

It is official. Thomas has become Gardy's Punto.

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Posted 22 April 2012 - 12:24 PM

There are alternatives to playing Clete. I would rather they start Plouffe or Doumit in RF before putting Clete in RF. He should be the fourth OF.

#14 striker_86

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Posted 22 April 2012 - 12:26 PM

Yeah, dont get me wrong. I like Thomas. But he shouldnt be our everyday rightfielder.....

#15 Ultima Ratio

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Posted 22 April 2012 - 12:26 PM

Here we go with Liriano (see it rhymes :) ).....
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#16 striker_86

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Posted 22 April 2012 - 12:28 PM

Here we go with Liriano (see it rhymes :) ).....


yup, the meltdown has begun....

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Posted 22 April 2012 - 12:28 PM

Thomas is a carrier Minor Leaguer who is taking playing time away from our young players. Maybe Gardy will figure this out.

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Posted 22 April 2012 - 12:28 PM

I looked this up last night but could not find an answer: Does Liriano have any minor league options remaining?
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#19 mnfireman

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Posted 22 April 2012 - 12:29 PM

Clete Thomas is 3-6 against Niemann, maybe not a bad decision. We'll see.

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Posted 22 April 2012 - 12:30 PM

Liriano could be a fine Bullpen arm.

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Posted 22 April 2012 - 12:31 PM

Wow..Twins are going to have to do something. This is getting downright laughable (and predictable) with Liriano...

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Posted 22 April 2012 - 12:32 PM

Liriano could be a fine Bullpen arm.

Not with his current walk rate. When could you trust to bring him in?
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#23 Seth Stohs

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Posted 22 April 2012 - 12:33 PM

Liriano could be a fine Bullpen arm.


And we think that Jeff Gray was frustrating yesterday...

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Posted 22 April 2012 - 12:37 PM

7.1 BB/9 so far this year (before today's start). That's walks, not Ks. Horrible.
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#25 woolhouse

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Posted 22 April 2012 - 12:39 PM

Is Liriano going to lose a no-hitter today???

#26 Highabove

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Posted 22 April 2012 - 12:47 PM

Doesn't Liriano usually have a good first inning?

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Posted 22 April 2012 - 12:49 PM

Twins are now on a 5 for 35 streak with RISP.

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Posted 22 April 2012 - 12:51 PM

When you enter the Trop, it looks like the Circus is in town. A lot of junk hanging from the ceiling.

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Posted 22 April 2012 - 11:00 PM

I looked this up last night but could not find an answer: Does Liriano have any minor league options remaining?


I realize this is way after the fact and being in a game thread may not get read...but my understanding is that he has at least one option, but because he has five years of major league time that he has to agree to being sent down. I'm not 100% that's true, but that's what "I've heard."