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Game 15 - Twins @ Rays - 4/21/12

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#1 Seth Stohs

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Posted 21 April 2012 - 01:41 PM

Tonight the Twins will try to win their second in a row in Tampa: Twins Lineup: Denard Span CF Jamey Carroll SS Joe Mauer 1B Josh Willingham LF Justin Morneau DH Ryan Doumit C Danny Valencia 3B Clete Thomas RF Alexi Casilla 2B SP: Carl Pavano

#2 mikeee

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Posted 21 April 2012 - 02:17 PM

Glad Morneau is back...

#3 John Bonnes

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Posted 21 April 2012 - 02:32 PM

Clete Thomas again? I gotta say, if we're looking for a reason to get worked up about Gardy's lineup, forget this 3rd catcher crap - this is the topic we should be focusing on. Thomas has STARTED in right field six of the seven games he's been with the Twins. What the hell? I can understand it a couple of times. For instance, his first game, he gets a pass. His second game he gets a pass because he had the big first game. And I can understand the two starts when the lefties were on the mound and Gardy was protecting/resting Morneau. But that still doesn't explain Game 3 in NYY and tonight. Parmelee is getting screwed here.

#4 Seth Stohs

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Posted 21 April 2012 - 02:37 PM

Parmelee should be in Rochester, not in RF. I have no problem with them playing Thomas. First, they see what they've got, and second, he's not so bad. I have no problem with him being the Left-handed hitting RF in a platoon. The four-K game was one game. A game to move on from.

#5 John Bonnes

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Posted 21 April 2012 - 02:41 PM

Parmelee should be in Rochester, not in RF. I have no problem with them playing Thomas. First, they see what they've got, and second, he's not so bad. I have no problem with him being the Left-handed hitting RF in a platoon. The four-K game was one game. A game to move on from.


There are at least four things in that quote I want to talk about. I've started a Clete Thomas thread, because this is going to drive me crazy.

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Posted 21 April 2012 - 02:52 PM

I choose Parmelee over Thomas. When Terry Ryan acquired Thomas through the waiver wire last weekend he mentioned something to the tune of Thomas projects as a good 4th Outfielder. If Morneau eventually works his way into being the almost everyday first baseman again. Wouldn't it make sense to have Parmelee get a fair amount of action in RF? At this juncture in time he has done nothing to convince me that he needs more "seasoning". I really think he adds an element of offensive fear to our line-up and RF is where he is going to have to play if Morneau is in the field. I like Thomas, he can play all 3 OF positions, he has a nice arm, he has some pop, but is very susceptible to LH pitchers - but he is what TR calls him... a 4th Outfielder.

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Posted 21 April 2012 - 04:21 PM

I'd rather see Parmelee but this lineup can get it done.....Win Twins!!!

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Posted 21 April 2012 - 06:00 PM

Lots of Strikeouts early by Pavano . . . that's promising!

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Posted 21 April 2012 - 06:00 PM

We need Pavano to pitch 7+ innings tonight....

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Posted 21 April 2012 - 06:21 PM

nice work to turn two there, keeping the Rays off the board.

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Posted 21 April 2012 - 06:23 PM

pitcher's duel.

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Posted 21 April 2012 - 06:32 PM

REALLY nice work to turn two there, keeping the Rays off the board.

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Posted 21 April 2012 - 06:32 PM

great double play! defense is working!

#14 Kirby_waved_at_me

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Posted 21 April 2012 - 06:45 PM

great at bat for Morneau - come on Doumit!

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Posted 21 April 2012 - 06:49 PM

Could have used a big hit by Doumit there....cmon!

#16 mikeee

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Posted 21 April 2012 - 06:49 PM

bases loaded, and out he goes...

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Posted 21 April 2012 - 06:52 PM

He hit it pretty well, battled hard after going 0-2. Nice little rally, too bad it came with 2 out

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Posted 21 April 2012 - 06:55 PM

if there is such a thing, this has been a vintage Pavano performance so far.

#19 Seth Stohs

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Posted 21 April 2012 - 07:00 PM

I always have to ask... what more was Ryan Doumit supposed to do there? He took a great AB against one of the league's best pitchers, and he hit a very hard line drive. I would have liked a couple of runs there too, but what was he supposed to do there instead?

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Posted 21 April 2012 - 07:03 PM

Some good ABs for the Rays hitters. Pavano can't finish them off after getting a lot of Ks early.

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Posted 21 April 2012 - 07:03 PM

Do you walk this guy in this situation? edit: .... yeah. you can't predict that outcome, but why give them a free baserunner in that situation?

Edited by Kirby_Waved_At_Me, 21 April 2012 - 07:08 PM.


#22 Boom Boom

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Posted 21 April 2012 - 07:12 PM

A couple of bad decisions by Span cost the Twins 2 runs.

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Posted 21 April 2012 - 07:14 PM

Well that was about as frustrating an inning as you can get. Doumit, with the bases loaded, couldn't have hit that ball any harder, unfortunately it was hit right at someone. Then in the bottom of the inning, a bunch of close plays, close pitches and close calls all go the home team's way, and it's 3-0 Rays.

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Posted 21 April 2012 - 07:14 PM

Ok, I've almost had enough of Thomas, get a clue.

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Posted 21 April 2012 - 07:16 PM

..........and Casilla.

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Posted 21 April 2012 - 07:27 PM

Well this is getting ugly....

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Posted 21 April 2012 - 07:28 PM

Valenica looks like he needs a night off.

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Posted 21 April 2012 - 07:29 PM

Valenica looks like he needs a night off.


He's already taking the night off....brutal.

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Posted 21 April 2012 - 07:32 PM

Ok, I've almost had enough of Thomas, get a clue.


Yeah. He's fine as a 4th or 5th outfielder, but this had better be the end of this little experiment of regularly putting him in the lineup.

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Posted 21 April 2012 - 07:36 PM

One double play ball too late