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#31 Halsey Hall

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Posted 27 November 2013 - 04:49 PM

Oh, I only looked at LA, thanks.

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Posted 27 November 2013 - 04:50 PM

Well, after taking a second gander at his numbers last night, I'm happy with Nolasco.

Literally, the only two guys that would rank higher would have been Tanaka (maybe) and Garza. Jimenez and Santana cost the draft pick. Kazmir I'd put at about the same level but with less track record. This is a quality signing.

The Twins have already exceeded my modest early expectations.


Ditto.

I can see Kazmir and Navarro as possibilities still.

Hoping Nolasco isn't any more than 3 years and no more than 39m. And if a 3rd or more that it's a vested option. e.g. 200 IP, ERA under 4.00 type of thing.

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Posted 27 November 2013 - 04:51 PM

Without digging into it, why did he only pitch 80 some innings last season? Injury?


He got traded so you might be looking at split stats. He pitched 87 innings for the Dodgers and 112.1 for the Marlins.

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Posted 27 November 2013 - 04:51 PM

Without digging into it, why did he only pitch 80 some innings last season? Injury?


Nolasco pitched 199.1 innings last year?

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Posted 27 November 2013 - 04:53 PM

IT'S NOLASCO!

http://www.mlbtrader...l#disqus_thread

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Posted 27 November 2013 - 04:55 PM

And Nolasco it is. I'll say it will be 3 years 50M.

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Posted 27 November 2013 - 04:56 PM

I am very excited to eat some crow pie tonight! Woo Hoo. I view this as a good start, not a good offseason.

This is our rotation I think:

1:
2: Nolasco
3:
4: Corriea
5: Gibson/Deduno/Meyer/Diamond

It'd be awesome to add Garza and trade for someone like Hellickson.

1. Garza
2. Nolasco
3. Hellickson
4. Correia
5. Gibson

I wonder what the price is for Nolasco, as long as we didn't have to pay a butt load per year, we should have enough chips to get Garza.

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Posted 27 November 2013 - 04:58 PM

While Nolasco wasn't at the top of my wish list, apparently he was for the Twins, I love the Twins getting a solid arm early. Definitely have to add a few more pieces but this, if accurate, is a great start.

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Posted 27 November 2013 - 05:00 PM

Good start. Keep at it.

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Posted 27 November 2013 - 05:03 PM

A good start. Still need more.

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Posted 27 November 2013 - 05:03 PM

Just an FYI, I'd nearly guarantee it's a 4 year contract with a 5th year option possible. Other teams wanted him, we had to outbid them, giving the extra year is our way to leap the hurdle.

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Posted 27 November 2013 - 05:05 PM

I am very excited to eat some crow pie tonight! Woo Hoo. I view this as a good start, not a good offseason.

This is our rotation I think:

1:
2: Nolasco
3:
4: Corriea
5: Gibson/Deduno/Meyer/Diamond

It'd be awesome to add Garza and trade for someone like Hellickson.

1. Garza
2. Nolasco
3. Hellickson
4. Correia
5. Gibson

I wonder what the price is for Nolasco, as long as we didn't have to pay a butt load per year, we should have enough chips to get Garza.


Here is our rotation as it stands now.

1: Nolasco
2:
3: Deduno
4: Corriea
5: Gibson/Meyer/Diamond/ Worely/ Albers/ Johnson and more

with Meyer on the way at the allstar break.

Now we can focus on signing Campuano or Pelfry and a catcher.

Edited by Brandon, 27 November 2013 - 05:10 PM.


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Posted 27 November 2013 - 05:10 PM

I like it! So much for all the "TR will never do anything, talk"

I would love to snag one of Bailey, Garza, Kazmir still, however I am very pleased so far, and even if they don't sign another front end guy (and just a backend guy like Arroyo, Pelfrey) along with a bat somewhere I would be pretty damn thrilled.

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Posted 27 November 2013 - 05:11 PM

Here is our rotation as it stands now.

1: Nolasco
2:
3: Deduno
4: Corriea
5: Gibson/Meyer/Diamond/ Worely/ Albers/ Johnson and more

with Meyer on the way at the allstar break.

Now we can focus on signing Campuano or Pelfry and a catcher.


I guess I'm not satisfied with Nolasco being our best pitcher. I'm happy to have him though.

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Posted 27 November 2013 - 05:15 PM

Not my personal first choice, but it does show they are serious this year about getting better. I guess keeping my hopes up was ok after all.

What I just typed is probably an opinion, not a fact. I mean, I'm usually right, so you should maybe assume it is or will be a fact soon, but that's up to you. :)


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Posted 27 November 2013 - 05:15 PM

I'm very happy we're making some moves, but hard to say too much until we know the details of the contract. I do worry though that our rotation is going to end up being the same as last year, with Nolasco as the only addition and re signing Pelfrey to a multi year deal. Its a start, but the following rotation isn't exactly impressive if its the end result:

1. Nolasco
2. Correia
3. Pelfrey
4. Deduno
5. Gibson


So, lets go spend some more.

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Posted 27 November 2013 - 05:16 PM

I like it! So much for all the "TR will never do anything, talk"

I would love to snag one of Bailey, Garza, Kazmir still, however I am very pleased so far, and even if they don't sign another front end guy (and just a backend guy like Arroyo, Pelfrey) along with a bat somewhere I would be pretty damn thrilled.


I'm glad you are happy Dave. I am as well. I won't be that thrilled if we don't sign another front end guy and settle for Arroyo/Pelfrey unless we saved that money to add a legit bat/catcher to go along with a guy like Arroyo.

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Posted 27 November 2013 - 05:17 PM

I guess I'm not satisfied with Nolasco being our best pitcher. I'm happy to have him though.


I think asking for a pitcher better than Nolasco in one offseason is a pretty tall order.

This team doesn't need to be rebuilt in a day. I'm happy with Nolasco (not my first choice but perfectly acceptable) and a lower tier guy this offseason with the intent of doing it again next offseason.

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Posted 27 November 2013 - 05:20 PM

I'm going to be curious to see what the dollars were. But a good, aggressive start. This is what we didn't get last year, so I'm glad it's finally being addressed.

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Posted 27 November 2013 - 05:20 PM

We should be happy about this signing. I was really feeling that dull Arroyo ache in my stomach. If we could snag Garza, I don't care who else the Twins sign. Garza and Navarro would be a winning offseason for me. I still like Kazmir as well! I'd be cool with Pelfrey if we signed Garza and/or Kazmir. Plus Aledmys Diaz, the Cuban SS is still out there and now we know his age! That'd be some thick icing on the cake.

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Posted 27 November 2013 - 05:20 PM

Done deal. Nolasco himself and Plouffe confirm. Details here.

Still need to find the years and AAV. Note: He made $11.5M in 2013, so I expect it to be between $13-15M AAV and either 3+1 or 4+1.
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Posted 27 November 2013 - 05:25 PM

I honestly don't have to wait for the contract info to like this. Money is not a current issue in this organization. They can afford to pay too much or go a year too long for a guy. In factn they probably have to in order to get any quality pitcher.

Glad to see an aggressive move.
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Posted 27 November 2013 - 05:27 PM

One projection has the deal in the range of Edwin Jackson's 4 year $52 million deal according to the mlbtraderumors piece.

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Posted 27 November 2013 - 05:30 PM

I spent the last hour deciding if I like this signing. I do. I think Nolasco could be peaking right now and I think that he is the type of pitcher who can do well for a lot of years. It seems pretty low-risk as far as starting pitchers go. I wrote a lot more about it if you really want my analysis:

http://smartpitcher....-minnesota.html

There's a chart. It's fun.

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Posted 27 November 2013 - 05:34 PM

My guess is that we overpaid, however, that is what it's going to take to get these guys here. This signing will probably start the dominoes falling on the other pitchers. I'd love to get another arm and Salty. Then see if we can maybe trade. Texas would seem like a good place for Hammer since Murphy and Cruz likely not back for one of their young arms.

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Posted 27 November 2013 - 05:36 PM

Tim Dierkes reports the Twins are close to a major signing. Who the signing is isn't clear. Link to post:

http://www.mlbtrader...nt-signing.html


Good guess on the thread name, by the way..

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Posted 27 November 2013 - 05:36 PM

Without digging into it, why did he only pitch 80 some innings last season? Injury?


with out looking it up , Me thinks he was just under 200 innings (199.1) with Miami and the dodgers)

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Posted 27 November 2013 - 05:37 PM

My guess is that we overpaid, however, that is what it's going to take to get these guys here. This signing will probably start the dominoes falling on the other pitchers. I'd love to get another arm and Salty. Then see if we can maybe trade. Texas would seem like a good place for Hammer since Murphy and Cruz likely not back for one of their young arms.


You aren't going to get much back for Willingham at all at this point.

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Posted 27 November 2013 - 05:39 PM

Hey Terry , NICE JOB kudos, now that your getting it done, lets keep going and sign Garza, Erick Chavez and Navarro

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Posted 27 November 2013 - 05:40 PM

Hey Terry , NICE JOB kudos, now that your getting it done, lets keep going and sign Garza, Erick Chavez and Navarro


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