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#21 snepp

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Posted 31 January 2014 - 10:10 PM

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#22 Badsmerf

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Posted 31 January 2014 - 11:18 PM

Can we get a glossary for abbreviations?
WTF is BYTO?

Be Your Transit Operator
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Bite Your Tiny Opening

Some of the adults are not hip on all the preteen texting abbreviations.

A forum. It didn't have the amount of blogging contribution this site does, but most of the regular posters from there came over here. And there was a fraction of the moderating that is done here.
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Posted 01 February 2014 - 07:47 AM

It's the previous set of discussion groups that was replaced by this one. My main concern about moderation is that sometimes it seems people who moved over from that site are treated preferentially from those who joined here for the first time.

#24 Joe A. Preusser

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Posted 01 February 2014 - 09:27 AM

As long as we're voicing objections to moderation, I am wondering why posts with heavy sarcasm aren't allowed? I have had 2-3 deleted already. I don't think sarcasm is inherently disrespectful, and it is a mode of communication that can sometimes be more effective than a dry recitation of one's opinion. Name calling and personal attacks I get, but I don't understand the war on sarcasm.

#25 Joe A. Preusser

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Posted 01 February 2014 - 09:28 AM

It's the previous set of discussion groups that was replaced by this one. My main concern about moderation is that sometimes it seems people who moved over from that site are treated preferentially from those who joined here for the first time.


I have taken issue with the moderation on this site a time or two, but I have never felt like I was treated differently because I am a relative newbie.

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Posted 01 February 2014 - 10:07 AM

I personally think the mods do a wonderful job on this site. If it is to tight or not enough freedom to say what you really want, go read the the Star Tribune comments or the comments of a yahoo web page story. I love this site because I can read and cipher intelligent opinions and stories. I refuse to even go to the Star Tribune anymore.

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Posted 01 February 2014 - 01:25 PM

As long as we're voicing objections to moderation, I am wondering why posts with heavy sarcasm aren't allowed? I have had 2-3 deleted already. I don't think sarcasm is inherently disrespectful, and it is a mode of communication that can sometimes be more effective than a dry recitation of one's opinion. Name calling and personal attacks I get, but I don't understand the war on sarcasm.


I would respectfully disagree with the idea that sarcasm is not inherently disrespectful. Type it into google and the definition that comes back is "The use of irony to mock or convey contempt." My experience in life mirrors that.

Meriam-Webster has it as "a sharp and often satirical or ironic utterance designed to cut or give pain."

I'm just fine with sarcasm being moderated.

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Posted 01 February 2014 - 02:38 PM

Yeesh. Pitchers and catchers can't report soon enough...

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Posted 01 February 2014 - 04:00 PM

Yeesh. Pitchers and catchers can't report soon enough...


Maybe so. But this thread is in a part of the TD site, "Questions about Twins Daily", where it's an appropriate topic. As in other parts of the site, if a subject isn't to one's liking, no one compels anyone to read it, and certainly there is no compulsion to contribute. Indeed, posting (in effect) that the subject of the thread itself is not worth discussing, is covered in the TD Comments Policy.

Edited by ashburyjohn, 01 February 2014 - 04:04 PM.


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Posted 01 February 2014 - 04:19 PM

I would respectfully disagree with the idea that sarcasm is not inherently disrespectful. Type it into google and the definition that comes back is "The use of irony to mock or convey contempt." My experience in life mirrors that.


The following reflects just the views of one of the mods.

Many posters, including some of the moderators, successfully include sarcasm among their rhetorical devices, without running close to the boundary.

I just checked the TD Comment Policy and, as it happens, sarcasm is not even mentioned by name.

But, as you note, it is a sharp-edged tool. That means it requires some care. Some people have the talent to use it well, and some just don't seem to, despite repeated practice. :) And when it falls flat (always a subjective matter), it will come across as simply being combative or a setting up of a straw-man.

Rather than try to give ever-more-detailed guidelines on how others use sarcasm well, I suggest going back to the simpler statements found in the Comment Policy:

Respect for others is expected in everything we write, and personal attacks are not allowed.

and

TD encourages humor, but please consider how someone who doesn’t know you might interpret your post.

If you can use sarcasm while heeding this, to try to dismiss an idea while not dismissing an individual, go for it.

Watch this video of comedian Keith Alberstadt:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I-SFA5Xs0s8
Decide for yourself which of his jokes would translate well to the written medium even when the live performance aspects were missing, and which ones he would perhaps "call an audible on" if posting here.

Edited by ashburyjohn, 01 February 2014 - 04:46 PM.


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Posted 01 February 2014 - 04:50 PM

Maybe so. But this thread is in a part of the TD site, "Questions about Twins Daily", where it's an appropriate topic. As in other parts of the site, if a subject isn't to one's liking, no one compels anyone to read it, and certainly there is no compulsion to contribute. Indeed, posting (in effect) that the subject of the thread itself is not worth discussing, is covered in the TD Comments Policy.


Ha, ha. Yes, I am more than familiar with the policy. No harm was intended- though I do appreciate the depth of your stilted response.

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Posted 01 February 2014 - 06:37 PM

Ha, ha. Yes, I am more than familiar with the policy. No harm was intended


If it makes you feel better, I laughed at it.

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Posted 01 February 2014 - 06:56 PM

If it makes you feel better, I laughed at it.

:)


My thought was 'yeeesh ... no kidding!' ;)

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Posted 02 February 2014 - 11:57 AM

though I do appreciate the depth of your stilted response.


Uh, thank you, I think. :)

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Posted 02 February 2014 - 09:43 PM

Many posters, including some of the moderators, successfully include sarcasm among their rhetorical devices, without running close to the boundary.

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Posted 02 February 2014 - 10:02 PM

I actually think this site is under moderated. If a dress code is established, and uniforms are distributed, I would probably change my mind.

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Posted 03 February 2014 - 08:09 AM

I actually think this site is under moderated. If a dress code is established, and uniforms are distributed, I would probably change my mind.


Give it up, Bark. Great idea about the uniforms, but we never even got those badges we were discussing last summer in various game threads.

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Posted 03 February 2014 - 08:33 AM

Give it up, Bark. Great idea about the uniforms, but we never even got those badges we were discussing last summer in various game threads.


We don't need no stinkin' badges.

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Posted 03 February 2014 - 11:11 AM

If a dress code is established, and uniforms are distributed, I would probably change my mind.


The idea of you in a skirt is what keeps this proposal on the table.

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Posted 03 February 2014 - 12:00 PM

Sarcasm has no place in our society.

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