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#1 Chance

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Posted 20 November 2013 - 07:31 PM

There could be more players involved, but wow, that came out of nowhere.

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Posted 20 November 2013 - 07:35 PM

This definitely came out of nowhere. I like the trade a lot for Texas(As the trade stands right now). The ball is going to fly off Fielders bat next summer in Texas. Kinsler has slowly been getting worse with age.

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Posted 20 November 2013 - 07:43 PM

Kind of a good trade for both teams although it's brilliant for the Rangers. They needed to open up a spot for Profar and they needed a big slugger. They do pick up 8 more expensive years of Fielder though. That won't end well.

The Tigers needed to get MCab back to 1B and they needed a MI'er. Kinsler is on the decline but he's good and he's only owed 4/60. It will be interesting to see if the Tigers use this money to pick up another slugger.

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Posted 20 November 2013 - 07:43 PM

This definitely came out of nowhere. I like the trade a lot for Texas(As the trade stands right now). The ball is going to fly off Fielders bat next summer in Texas. Kinsler has slowly been getting worse with age.


I agree, I would imagine more is coming Detroit's way on this. Does Detroit have someone to play 3rd? We got to assume that Cabrera will move back to first, correct?

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Posted 20 November 2013 - 07:48 PM

Maybe they will move top prospect Castellanos back to 3B from the OF. His move to the outfield last season was seemingly made to find him a place to play on the big club as far as I know.

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Posted 20 November 2013 - 07:56 PM

Maybe they will move top prospect Castellanos back to 3B from the OF. His move to the outfield last season was seemingly made to find him a place to play on the big club as far as I know.


Good insight. I hadn't realized that he was originally a 3rd baseman. Have to remember, there may be more players in this trade.

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Posted 20 November 2013 - 07:57 PM

I'll give it till the end of the week before the Tigers announce a Max Scherzer extension with the money they saved by trading Fielder.

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Posted 20 November 2013 - 08:05 PM

Bet they sign Nathan, too.

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Posted 20 November 2013 - 08:08 PM

Great trade for Texas. A bit more in salary, but it opens up a spot for Profar. Living in the Dallas area, I can't wait to see him play everyday.

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Posted 20 November 2013 - 08:09 PM

Prince is going to age poorly. He was mearly average last year, the only thing he has is durability at this point.

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Posted 20 November 2013 - 08:14 PM

Wouldn't suprise me if Detroit brought back Peralta to play 3rd as a steadying force for Castellanos and extended Cabrerra beyond 2015 - not to mention extending their starting pitchers as needed. It is definately a good move for both teams.

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Posted 20 November 2013 - 08:14 PM

Love the trade for Texas. Gives Profar a spot and puts a stop in their hole at 1st. Detroit needs the $$$ to sign Scherzer and Nathan

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Posted 20 November 2013 - 08:24 PM

Prince is going to age poorly. He was mearly average last year, the only thing he has is durability at this point.


Totally agree. Big first basemen do not age well in the majors and I think it is possible Prince's best years are behind him. The Tigers just unloaded what was likely to be a long term albatross from around their neck - and the Rangers just committed to pay a high salary for a guy whose value will only decline.

Edited by MileHighTwinsFan, 20 November 2013 - 08:27 PM.


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Posted 20 November 2013 - 08:38 PM

I wonder if the Rangers are clearing room for Cano rather than Profar.

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Posted 20 November 2013 - 08:40 PM

Fun Fact: Joe "People call me nothing but a singles hitter" Mauer outslugged Fielder last year .476 to .457

Granted, it wasn't Fielder's best year by any means, but still.

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Posted 20 November 2013 - 08:43 PM

I can see how some of the posters think Prince Fielder will age poorly and his contract a knife to the gut of the Rangers on the back end of the said contract. I disagree on the front end.

Fielder will not be 30 until may of next year. I guarantee Fielder hits 40 HR's at least Twice playing in Arlington with strong overall numbers. He along with Beltre will make a formidable 3 and 4 combination and my guess is that Nelson Cruz is brought back into the fold.

I do like the trade for both parties. This will enable the Tigers to have a decent shot at retaining guys like Cabrera and Scherzer. Kinsler's numbers will be okay to pedestrian playing for Detroit.

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Posted 20 November 2013 - 08:49 PM

Yikes, a healthy, motivated and pissed off Fielder could have a monster year in TX. I'm glad he is out of the central, but it probably means Detroit will spend big on the starting rotation which is probably a better investment.

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Posted 20 November 2013 - 08:53 PM

At least in the short term, I like this trade for the Rangers (and thus for the Twins).
1. I think rumors of Fielder's demise are premature.
2. Kinsler's value was based so much on HR and SB, and both have been in serious decline lately.
3. Yeah, the Tigers save some money, but not a ton. Kinsler is only making $8M less than Fielder the next two years, and the Tigers had to throw $30M into the deal, too. Frankly, it's encouraging to see that team, whose payroll was $148M last year, finally show a little fiscal sanity.
4. I assume this means Miguel Cabrera moves to first base, which means they have a hole at third base, and I don't see an easy solution there, unless it's Jhonny Peralta, which would mean yet more money.

Bottom line: Kinsler isn't so much a replacement for Fielder as he is for Peralta statistically and position wise. And they gave up Fielder to get him. I don't mind that.

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Posted 20 November 2013 - 08:56 PM

I wonder if the Rangers are clearing room for Cano rather than Profar.


That would be interesting if that is what happens. I would imagine a plan like that would have the Rangers flipping Profar or Andrus (more so Andrus) to another club for pitching. The Card's would be a nice matchup for that kind of trade. Shelby Miller and another piece or two maybe???

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Posted 20 November 2013 - 08:56 PM

At least in the short term, I like this trade for the Rangers (and thus for the Twins).
1. I think rumors of Fielder's demise are premature.
2. Kinsler's value was based so much on HR and SB, and both have been in serious decline lately.
3. Yeah, the Tigers save some money, but not a ton. Kinsler is only making $8M less than Fielder the next two years, and the Tigers had to throw $30M into the deal, too. Frankly, it's encouraging to see that team, whose payroll was $148M last year, finally show a little fiscal sanity.
4. I assume this means Miguel Cabrera moves to first base, which means they have a hole at third base, and I don't see an easy solution there, unless it's Jhonny Peralta, which would mean yet more money.

Bottom line: Kinsler isn't so much a replacement for Fielder as he is for Peralta statistically and position wise. And they gave up Fielder to get him. I don't mind that.

All true...but the Tigers save something like $75m if my math is right, and I bet they turn around and spend all of it.