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Pohlad "Willing to spend any amount of money on a current year contract"

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#1 SpiritofVodkaDave

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Posted 13 September 2013 - 03:35 PM

Per mlbtr: Seems to go against folks who say "The Twins won't spend any more money, Pohlad is cheap etc."
He says he wants some 1-2-3-4 year contracts in free agency this year and isn't afraid to spend, and like it or not he is spot on with the "Avoiding 7-8 year contracts"

Twins owner Jim Pohlad said after the team's 18-3 loss to Oakland earlier this week that the loss team's play is "embarrassing," and he will afford GM Terry Ryan with financial resources to make changes via free agency, according to Charley Walters of the St. Paul Pioneer Press. "We made a couple trades last year," said Pohlad. "I'm not sure that we can rely on that this year. So if we're going to do something, it's going to have to be that way (free agency)." Pohlad said he's willing to spend "any amount of money on the current year" but doesn't want to commit himself to seven- or eight-year mega contracts for free agents. He did specifically say that he wouldn't rule out two-, three- and four-year free agent contracts.


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Posted 13 September 2013 - 03:41 PM

I'm more of a show me don't tell me kind of guy. We've been told all sorts of things in the past that didn't come to fruition. If they follow through, that will be great.
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Posted 13 September 2013 - 03:46 PM

Well, yeah, of course he will say that. Time to start revving the PR for retaining season ticket holders.

Whether it comes true is another matter entirely.

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Posted 13 September 2013 - 03:51 PM

I would hope they'd make an exception on the years for a Tanaka or Abreau type contract.

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Posted 13 September 2013 - 03:54 PM

I think they have to start spending. The attendance is getting really bad.

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Posted 13 September 2013 - 04:50 PM

Pelfrey 8 yrs. Make it happen!

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Posted 13 September 2013 - 04:53 PM

I think all indications will continue to point towards the twins going hard after Tanaka and Abreu. they have the financials. 2015/2016 years we are aiming to contend in. Both the player I noted above are players that are young and fit what we need. They have to go get it now.

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Posted 13 September 2013 - 04:55 PM

" Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me"

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Posted 13 September 2013 - 04:56 PM

I think Tanaka can go with a post fee of 38mil. Contract of 6yr/45.
Abreu can get sealed with 6yr/63mil.

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Posted 13 September 2013 - 05:28 PM

I'm willing to believe that, thing is, most really good players don't want a short term deal, they want that long term deal that protects them from injury and decrease in performance. With relatively short term deals all you are going to get in guys who can't do any better. They still could be quality players like Orlando Hudson or Josh Willingham but they will come with their own shares of warts as well.

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Posted 13 September 2013 - 05:31 PM

Easy to say. Hard to do

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Posted 13 September 2013 - 05:34 PM

I think all indications will continue to point towards the twins going hard after Tanaka and Abreu. they have the financials. 2015/2016 years we are aiming to contend in. Both the player I noted above are players that are young and fit what we need. They have to go get it now.


Both? I highly doubt it. Maybe 1, but history says they won't go hard after either. I hope I'm wrong.

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Posted 13 September 2013 - 05:43 PM

Highly doubt both. But they both fit what we need. Just need to take a shot. Attendance would be up, it'd create a buzz. Abreu is what some scouts say to be the best hitter to come out of Cuba. That's sayin alot. Tanaka, is a minimum no.3 starter. With upside to be a no. 1. Ill dish out that kind of money to both. We have it to.

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Posted 13 September 2013 - 06:26 PM

Both? I highly doubt it. Maybe 1, but history says they won't go hard after either. I hope I'm wrong.


They might go after both, and yeah, I want to hope for one, but in the end, I think they will get 'outbid' for both. At least that will be the story line. But ... we'll see.
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Posted 13 September 2013 - 06:43 PM

Highly doubt both. But they both fit what we need. Just need to take a shot. Attendance would be up, it'd create a buzz. Abreu is what some scouts say to be the best hitter to come out of Cuba. That's sayin alot. Tanaka, is a minimum no.3 starter. With upside to be a no. 1. Ill dish out that kind of money to both. We have it to.


I may be wrong but I don't believe Abreu is a target of the Twins. I haven't seen his name linked with ours. I think Doogie Wolfson tweeted we thought he was overrated. Looks like the Giants are going all out. Once again, I am only guessing.

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Posted 13 September 2013 - 06:47 PM

I just feel like it might be a different story this offseason. We didn't spend last year with all the money coming off the books. Now there are players on the market with profiles that fit our holes. Were 3 years from contention. Lets just get it done

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Posted 13 September 2013 - 07:15 PM

Pohlad "Willing to spend any amount of money on a current year contract"


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Posted 13 September 2013 - 07:52 PM

" Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me"

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Posted 13 September 2013 - 08:08 PM

"I know it's in Texas, probably in Tennessee that says, 'Fool me once, shame on ... shame on you. Fool me... You can't get fooled again!'"
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Posted 13 September 2013 - 08:43 PM

Forbes said on one of their recent valuations that the average revenue per fan for the Twins is $50. If attendance continues at 25000 per game that would lose 44 million in revenue. If ratings drops because the Twins are bad, there goes more revenue as the Pohlads own the radio station. Sometimes you have to spend money to make money.

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Posted 13 September 2013 - 08:50 PM

So this means the payroll will be $70-80M way to go out and spend the big bucks. They are all talk and there will be absolutely nobody signed who ranks in the top 30 free agents.

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Posted 13 September 2013 - 08:50 PM

Well, did they sign the majority of their draft picks. I believe so, step one done.

Did they actively play in the International market with budgeted funds this year, possibly not.

Did they jettison dead weight like Willingham when given the opportunity, holding out for what? Not to mention Pelfry. Maybe even Doumit. Just freeing up current big contracts and reinvesting that money in others would be a step forward. Sometimes you bite the bullet and don't look for a prospect fleecing on-top of getting rid of salary, but only if you reinvest that salary.

Do they spend to keep their own free agents. Humm. Seems not. Unless they make a ridiculous offer to Pelfry, a player will sign with someone that is showing contention above and beyond having Mauer in the line-up, or if the Twins do offer that multi-year contract that they can't get elsewhere, again, for a tidy sum.

The Twins have to put on a good nface by having top-flight management, field personnel and show that they are spending not jsut for the short-term, but in a way that their internal prospects will also possibly (never a given) shine.

They must also put buts in the seats. Right now, Pohlad is walking around the stadium and seeing it staffed with concessions and ushers for a crowd of 20,000+ (which you have to, the tickets are sold) but actually seeing 12-14,000 butts in the seats, And not all of them are wearing Twins gear anymore. You are offering $12 home-run porch seat tickets and season-ticket holders can't even sell their unused tickets for $6 up to the day of the game. You don't sell out your dollar dog nite, even when you limit each fan to a dozen.

Plus, the Twins and Target Field (is the field more important than the team) will be getting national spotlight in 2014...and who are they going to have represent them on the field. Mauer and maybe Perkins, Perk just getting into the roster this year because Jesse Crain had to get injured.

Yes, I'm sure Pohlad walking thru the Legends Club and seeing all that food gong unsold, all those seats outside empty, and no traffic in the aisles is wondering where the millions will come to help pay down their part of the stadium bill early will come. Words are just words.

Yep, I'll sign any player for the Twins that will work for $3-4 million, has potential to come back the next season and play even better for the same money, and won't be asking me for a multi-year contract, unless it is for less pay each season.
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Posted 13 September 2013 - 08:58 PM

Forbes said on one of their recent valuations that the average revenue per fan for the Twins is $50. If attendance continues at 25000 per game that would lose 44 million in revenue. If ratings drops because the Twins are bad, there goes more revenue as the Pohlads own the radio station. Sometimes you have to spend money to make money.


Is this a new nurse posting, or you, "old nurse"?:o

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Posted 13 September 2013 - 09:00 PM

I may be wrong but I don't believe Abreu is a target of the Twins. I haven't seen his name linked with ours. I think Doogie Wolfson tweeted we thought he was overrated. Looks like the Giants are going all out. Once again, I am only guessing.


I trust the Giants opinion over Doogie and his "source".

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Posted 13 September 2013 - 11:07 PM

Is this a new nurse posting, or you, "old nurse"?:o


Cest moi. I have always thought the Pohlads directed with their wallet.

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Posted 14 September 2013 - 02:10 AM

Meaningless rubbish and lies from another pohlad. To think I used to defend that family.....

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Posted 14 September 2013 - 06:51 AM

Spend on pitching please!

The Twins get better when the pitching gets better.

Tanaka Is alright with me.

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Posted 14 September 2013 - 09:06 AM

But how can they spend? We all know Ryan can't give money away..................except apparently to the likes of Correia and Pelfrey.

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Posted 14 September 2013 - 09:17 AM

Is it just me or did the Twins Management say this same exact thing last off season. It may have been Terry Ryan who said it though. I'm not sure who you can get on this kind of deal who will help the team even get to .500 next season.
I think the reason they say this is to explain why they don't get the better free agents. Like Anibal Sanchez last year. Well.... He wouldn't take a two year deal. What can we do?

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Posted 14 September 2013 - 09:32 AM

But how can they spend? We all know Ryan can't give money away..................except apparently to the likes of Correia and Pelfrey.


yes, I expect to hear this excuse along with 'being outbid' and a host of other things ... but ... I still hope for the best, and prepare for the worst
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