Posted 10 September 2013 - 09:15 PM
Target Field was the supposed beginning of a new era of Twins baseball in terms of financial and on the field competitiveness. We need a manager that can capitalize on these underutilized new advantages and raise the expectations of this franchise and state. I believe that Joe Maddon is that man. If we want to be considered a serious perennial contender we need to make management and staff moves that reflect that ambition.
Joe Maddon would develop the young talent in this system and have the credibility to ensure that FAs wouldn't slip from our grasps. He has topped out in Tampa in terms of fan and regional support. If he can win an AL Pennant and two AL East titles with the Rays think of what he could do with a legitimate mid to upper tier market club such as the Twins, especially one with such a promising and young core of talent quickly rising through the ranks. You can only butt heads with the two headed in division Yankee/Red Sox monster for so long.
I know he signed a contract extension last year, but I am convinced that if we ponied up good money, $4-4.5mil a year, we could pry him from Tampa. I know he's said he loves it there blah blah blah, but money talks and there is definite opportunity here to create a formidable player in the American League if the right manager showed up.
I'll hang up and listen.
Posted 10 September 2013 - 09:18 PM
Posted 10 September 2013 - 09:59 PM
At least if I were part of Rays ownership, I sure wouldn't let him go!
Posted 10 September 2013 - 09:59 PM
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Posted 10 September 2013 - 10:03 PM
Down the road it may be Dougie or Jake.
Posted 10 September 2013 - 11:12 PM
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Posted 11 September 2013 - 08:23 AM
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Posted 11 September 2013 - 08:30 AM
Joe Maddon and Terry Ryan's three ring binder will not play nice with each other. In order to have one (or one like him), Terry Ryan and his binder has to go...
Yes, Ryan and Maddon do not fit. Maddon is new school baseball, Ryan is staunchly old school. If you want Maddon, it's best to pry away Andrew Freidman, the Rays GM, first. He actually only goes year-to-year with his contract so he is fair game.
Posted 11 September 2013 - 08:47 AM
Posted 11 September 2013 - 09:01 AM
“Concern yourself not with what is right and what is wrong but with what is important.” ~Unknown
Posted 11 September 2013 - 09:39 AM
Edited by Tibs, 11 September 2013 - 09:42 AM.
Posted 11 September 2013 - 09:44 AM
Mike Maddux? Ryne Sandburg? Alan Trammel? Jim Hickey? Curt Young? Rick Peterson? I am not sure what these guys contracts currently are but they would be guys I would be interested in if they went out of the organization.
Posted 11 September 2013 - 09:50 AM
Posted 11 September 2013 - 10:06 AM
I think Gardy is gone. He'd have gotten an extension if they wanted him back. He has not been extended. I want a guy who work well with rookies. Maddon is a great idea, but he's under contract, so I don't think it happens.
I actually think Ryan will look for an excuse to extend Gardenhire. There hasn't been any point in the season the Twins have played well enough that Ryan could justify going out and offering an extension based on current performance. However, I think he's painted himself into a corner based on past comments implying the failure isn't Gardy's fault.
The Twins have won two in a row, I wouldn't be surprised if they win a few more using these young guys, if Ryan uses that as justification to offer an extension before the season ends.
Edited by nicksaviking, 11 September 2013 - 10:55 AM.
Posted 11 September 2013 - 10:17 AM
If you don't know where you are going, you might wind up someplace else.
Posted 11 September 2013 - 10:42 AM
I actually think Ryan will look for an excuse to extend Gardenhire. There hasn't been any point in the season the Twins have played well enough that Ryan could ustify going out and offer an extension based on current performance. However, I think he's painted himself into a corner based on past comments implying the failure isn't Gardy's fault.
This is my thought as well. I was somewhat surprised to read an interview with Jim Pohlad a few weeks ago where he predicated some comment with a casual "obviously we're bringing Ryan back next year." As you say, given the ownership Ryan has taken for the losses (at least publicly), I think they would have a hard time not bringing Gardy back another year at least.
edit: here is the exact quote from Sid's interview:
Meanwhile, Twins manager Ron Gardenhire is without a contract after this year. Pohlad said Gardenhire’s status will be evaluated after the season.
Is there any reason he won’t be back?
“Well, that’s Terry’s decision, but he’ll consult with all of us,” said Pohlad, who added that nothing has been decided.
Hartman: Pohlad expects better times ahead for Twins | Star Tribune
Edited by Willihammer, 11 September 2013 - 10:45 AM.
Posted 11 September 2013 - 10:46 AM
Anyway, Gardenhire will be back. Lets face it the Twins wont let him go.
I'm not so sure. Last offseason there was quite a bit of reshuffling on the staff. This is not a team that has played well fundamentally and only lost because of the lack of talent. This team has had plenty of breakdowns and failures that really fall on the shoulders of the coaching staff, especially the one at the top. I think Ryan's public comments are diplomatic because the season is still going on, but I think Gardy is gone.