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Posted 13 April 2012 - 11:35 PM
I'm not trying to be rude but I am not a fan of the "Best Player Available" cop out. I want to talk names and who does everyone think IS the BPA. I get the concept of BPA but it doesn't mean that much. In 2008 the Rays thought they were drafting the BPA in Tim Beckham, he was the "Toolsy" pick. So far he has been terrible and i would be surprised if he makes it. They passed on Buster Posey who at the time I said would be a home run pick for them because it was a position of need, he was a home town guy, and he was an absolute BEAST in college. That same year the Orioles went with a player of need (also a bad strategy) and picked the highest ranked pitcher in that draft in Brian Matusz. So far he hasn't looked great but could still be a player of value. But looking at it now it doesn't matter if they picked Wieters the year before because Posey looks to be a perennial all star. That being said it was a weak pitching draft in 2008. Sometimes the answer is obvious and sometimes less clear. I am not a fan of Buxton. The scouting sites are drooling over him(just as they did for Beckham) and I just don't see it, the label "potential" and "toolsy" are used for him a lot but he sounds a lot like Aaron Hicks(great fielder, great arm, power potential, bat isn't there yet, bad competition). Maybe it's because I don't trust anyone who scouts say are "toolsy," ultimately I could be wrong about him but he has .250 hitter written all over him. I also don't trust Appel. He has the look and the "stuff" but has given up too many hits and struck out too few. For the #2 pick you better DOMINATE in college to be considered. If it were me it would be down to Zunino, Zimmer, Giolito, and wild card McCullers.
Zunino is the real deal(just like Posey) because of his ability to stick behind the plate. He reminds me a lot of Pudge Rodriguez and at worst he will be a Yadier Molina type which I can live with. He is the "safe" pick but like I said with Posey I think years down the road there are gonna be a few teams who will regret passing on this young man because of "need."
I like Zimmer a lot as well. He has great control, a very good fast ball, and room to grow because he's only been a pitcher for one year. He also has a very smooth delivery and big body which usually equates to durability.He has also dominated the competition. The dip in his velocity in his most recent outing makes me nervous also his inexperience but if it's college pitcher I think he's the way to go.
I know Giolito is injured but I don't think it's a reason to shy away from him. He could move quick because of his polish like Clayton Kershaw and has Halliday comps. he is a risk but I'd rather take it with him than with Buxton. Plus if his injury does result in Tommy John at least he's really young and has the ability to get back on track fast (tommy john recovery is getting better by the year). You just can't teach his size and 100MPH fastball.
McCullers is my wild card because he has absolutely destroyed high school hitters and I don't see his control issues. He's walked very few, struck out a ton, given up literally no runs, and has enough "stuff" to be a dominant starter. The reason he has dropped is because some view him as a future reliever, he's smaller than the others mentioned, and his mechanics are a bit unorthodox. Sounds a little like Lincecum to me(although pretty different)
I'm also interested in what everyone thinks about the supplemental round guys we could look at. obviously that discussion is different because who knows if those guys will be around and it probably depends on our first pick but I'm gonna throw a few names out that have stuck out to me. P Marcus Stroman, P Ty Hansley, 3B Rio Ruiz, C Josh Elander, OF Victor Roache, OF Tyler Naquin, P Taylore Cherry, C/1B Peter O'Brian, P Brandon Kline, P Matt Smoral, P TJ Oakes(we will end up with him, I'm just not sure which round)
Wow. Boom. Seconded, though I think in a month you will change your tune about Appel. Zimmer is my only other serious contender for what I think the Twins should do, honestly. I am calling it now, Kevin Plawecki will be a better major league catcher than Zunino. He can be had in round 3 or so, probably. I have seen him, which is a bias, I know. He is also calling games this year for Purdue brilliantly with some starters that really aren't that great but are shutting out teams.
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Twins Prospects? 1 S. Gonsalves 2. N. Gordon 3. Tyler Jay
4. A. Kirilloff 5. Romero, Fernando 6. Mejia, Alberto 7. K. Stewart
8.J.T. Chargois 9. Wells, Lac. 10. D. Palka 11. Wade, LaM. 12. Nic Burdi
Posted 14 April 2012 - 06:41 AM
Posted 14 April 2012 - 07:31 AM
One thing about the MLB Draft is there is no sure thing. You take who you think is the best player and hope it works out. For every Chipper Jones there is a Brien Taylor.
Posted 14 April 2012 - 07:44 AM
Pitchers who throw the ball hard, lefties who do whatever, catchers, and third basemen (who stick there) are the true team needs. It just so happens that those needs are also in the "need to be ready for MLB pretty soon" category, so I am hoping that the Twins take more college players than the normally do.
But what will the team's needs be in 3 years when these guys approach the big leagues... (granted, guys who throw hard or or left-handed will always be valuable.)
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Posted 14 April 2012 - 10:44 AM
the Twins should know better than to take a high school player who is coming off of major surgery. .
Who exactly are you refering to? Giolito never had surgery as far as I know.
Edited by righty8383, 14 April 2012 - 10:47 AM.