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#1 Shane Wahl

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Posted 13 April 2012 - 02:43 PM

Just lost the ball in LF for the Tigers. As bad as he has ever looked in the field. Other Tiger notes, Octavio Dotel dominant in relief against the Sox.

#2 Seth Stohs

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Posted 13 April 2012 - 02:56 PM

Here's the video... http://i.imgur.com/noRJf.gif

#3 John Bonnes

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Posted 13 April 2012 - 03:04 PM

Go back and click on Seth's link. You will not regret it. That is AWESOME. We need to see if we can post that somewhere on the front page.

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Posted 13 April 2012 - 03:11 PM

I now just have this gif running constantly in the corner of my PC screen. It never gets old.

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Posted 13 April 2012 - 03:11 PM

Bwaaaahhaaaa!
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#6 Captain Kirkus

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Posted 13 April 2012 - 03:16 PM

With skates on and one more rotation Delmon might have landed that triple axle, along with the silver medal.

Edited by Captain Kirkus, 13 April 2012 - 05:29 PM.


#7 twinzgrl

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Posted 13 April 2012 - 03:39 PM

I do not miss Delmon. He was a very poor outfielder. Drove me nuts. I'm hoping that Josh Willingham can do better out there. THANKS for the video! Classic.

#8 davidjcampbell

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Posted 13 April 2012 - 03:42 PM

this link is excellent. just excellent.

#9 Teflon

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Posted 13 April 2012 - 03:49 PM

I think it's actually one of Delmon's better plays as he actually got close enough to make a fielding attempt.

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Posted 13 April 2012 - 06:51 PM

I applaud the effort... That was never a sure thing with the Twins. One thing still for sure... fundamentals is not his middle name.

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Posted 13 April 2012 - 07:27 PM

Don't you forget Delmon had a 2 run homer and is batting .300 He is better than any ofer the Twins have and they gave him away for notting!

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Posted 13 April 2012 - 10:37 PM

Don't you forget Delmon had a 2 run homer and is batting .300 He is better than any ofer the Twins have and they gave him away for notting!


exactly, his defense is terrible, but don't we have bad d already. Wish we could have gotten something for him..

#13 Shane Wahl

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Posted 13 April 2012 - 11:45 PM

Hawk Harrelson, as terrible as he is always, was pretty funny in his enthusiasm on that play. I still don't understand how that team doesn't just trade Ryan Rayburn (and they could get some value back) to solve some of this problem.

#14 Shane Wahl

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Posted 13 April 2012 - 11:47 PM

Also, Delmon Young is not better than Josh Willingham or Denard Span, and overall he is not going to be better than the conglomeration in RF.

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Posted 14 April 2012 - 12:05 AM

Delmon started 35 games as the Bucs cfer and played 162 games the next season.He is now only 26years old, Gardy never ever gave him full playing time or bat at the top of the lineup. The Twins will regret this one!

#16 Shane Wahl

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Posted 14 April 2012 - 12:09 AM

He did get full playing time and he fizzled out after having one strong year. He has no concept of what to do with his talent. This could have all been different if the RAYS did not push him through the minors so quickly.

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Posted 14 April 2012 - 01:24 AM

The Twins could of had Longoria instead of Young and Harris for Garza & Bartlett, but Punto was Gardy's pet and could play ss & 3b. See how well that worked out.

#18 John Bonnes

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Posted 14 April 2012 - 09:28 AM

I think I've defended Delmon more than jusst about anyone - even wrote a multi-part series on him - but he got every opportunity he needed. He just didn't perform, except for 2010. To this day, I don't understand why it didn't work, but it didn't. And the Twins traded him away because they weren't going to offer him arbitration and the shouldn't have offered him arbitration.

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Posted 14 April 2012 - 09:41 AM

Don't you forget Delmon had a 2 run homer and is batting .300 He is better than any ofer the Twins have and they gave him away for notting!


Maybe I'm misreading you because of the typo, but if not, this is just plain wrong. Willingham is batting .333 and has more HRs than Delmon thus far this year. His defense may be only marginally better (he's got a cannon arm), but he's been a better hitter this year and over his career, particularly in OBP, SLP, and OPS:
Willingham: http://mlb.mlb.com/team/player.jsp?player_id=425545#gameType='R'§ionType=career&statType=1&season=2012&level='ALL'
Delmon: http://mlb.mlb.com/team/player.jsp?player_id=430321#gameType='R'§ionType=career&statType=1&season=2012&level='ALL'

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Posted 14 April 2012 - 03:29 PM

The Twins could of had Longoria instead of Young and Harris for Garza & Bartlett, but Punto was Gardy's pet and could play ss & 3b. See how well that worked out.


Never heard that rumor before.

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Posted 14 April 2012 - 05:04 PM

The Twins could of had Longoria instead of Young and Harris for Garza & Bartlett, but Punto was Gardy's pet and could play ss & 3b. See how well that worked out.


I don't buy that. Longoria was already a known prospect who hadn't had any trouble roughing up minor league umpires. No way the Rays were dangling Longoria for anyone.

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Posted 16 April 2012 - 09:19 AM

Willingham replaced Cuddyer. Willingham did not replace Cuddyer and Delmon. If you want to compare Willingham's stats with Delmon's, fine, but then you need to come up with a different replacement for Cuddyer's numbers.

Edited by WJ, 16 April 2012 - 09:24 AM.

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Posted 16 April 2012 - 11:49 AM

Friday was a disaster in the field for Delmon. He looked better on Saturday and Sunday. Delmon looked positively svelte when they showed a side-by-side of him and Prince Fielder (Prince on 3rd, DY on 2nd). But what was up with the 2 HBP and the walk the other day? Positively un-Delmonlike. Oh, and the Tigers had some definite RISP problems during the Chicago series. Stranded an awful-lot of guys.

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Posted 16 April 2012 - 12:39 PM

Mastroianni had a quote during Spring, contrasting the Twins camp to Toronto's, saying that if he made a play like that for Toronto he would get reamed (his word) for it, while Gardy told him quietly in the dugout "let's keep the 360's to a minimum, OK?" Wonder if Gardy was that circumspect with Delmon, though.

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Posted 16 April 2012 - 12:42 PM

Probably the most telling thing is that Young is getting replaced for defense in the late innings. You don't see those moves that often any more (although the Rangers do it) with the limited benches that ML teams have now.

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Posted 16 April 2012 - 12:53 PM

Picking on Delmon for his defense is not fair, it is like picking on Drew Butera for his offense, Matt LeCroy for his speed or me for my spelling. Defense is something Delmon has to do, not something he wants to do when you have a team of Rivals for the DH position. I don't understand the cult of Delmon, maybe it will click for him and he will take off like it did for Big Papi. (But they test more now then they did when David started to stay healthy and go the other way off the Green Monster. I don't know of a injection for your glove.) What Delmon needs is the old Matt Lawton supersized glove, you know the one that looks like the big camping chair in Menards. It won't help route running and instincts he has yet to pick up after 15 plus years of playing organized baseball, but he could be able to swipe at the ball and maybe knock it down so it will not roll to the fence quite as often, thus saving his legs for his next at bat.

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Posted 16 April 2012 - 12:55 PM

I think that: a. getting rid of Delmon was a bad move. b. getting rid of him for close to nothing was a worse move and c. sending him to a division rival was inane.
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#28 John Bonnes

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Posted 16 April 2012 - 01:09 PM

I think that:
a. getting rid of Delmon was a bad move.
b. getting rid of him for close to nothing was a worse move and
c. sending him to a division rival was inane.


So you would have paid him $6.375M this offseason? That essentially means swapping Delmon for Willingham.

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Posted 16 April 2012 - 01:21 PM

So you would have paid him $6.375M this offseason? That essentially means swapping Delmon for Willingham.


Not exactly... Willingham was Cuddyer's replacement. Delmon has not been replaced

I'd keep him as a starting RF or DH (where he belongs) and if the money was an issue I would have not signed Marquis and would have found a better alternative than Capps for half the money. That would make the $ about equal.
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Posted 16 April 2012 - 02:13 PM

Yeah, let's make fun of Delmon some more! It's obvious that the Tigers made a bad move in acquiring him and his... ...wait, .380 on-base percentage? Oh, but his poor fielding has to be costing Detroit ballgames and... ...they're 6-3 and leading the division? Oh.