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#1 Monkeypaws

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Posted 01 August 2013 - 05:25 PM

I'm looking for some opinions on who you folks think are our top 10 starting pitchers in the minors. It's pretty easy to pick out Meyer, Berrios, Stewart, but for some of the guys in the lower levels, I have no idea how guys like Landa and Jorge stack up, or the power arms of the 2012 draft like Bard or Melatokis rank, or Baxendale, etc.

What would BA say? :)

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Posted 01 August 2013 - 05:41 PM

What would BA say? :)


Not sure what BA would say, but MLB.com says this: (go there and then click on top 20 by team, select the Twins and you will get the top 9 position players as well...)

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Alex Myer
Kyle Gibson
Kohl Stewart
Jose Berrios
Trevor May
Ryan Eades
Mason Melotakis
Luke Bard
JT Chargois
Stephen Gonsalves
Felix Jorge
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#3 cmathewson

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Posted 01 August 2013 - 06:54 PM

My list:

Alex Meyer
Kohl Stewart
Jose Berrios
Kyle Gibson
Trevor May
Lewis Thorpe
Stephen Gonsalves
Ryan Eades
Mason Melotakis
DJ Baxendale
Alex Wimmers
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Posted 01 August 2013 - 08:02 PM

My top 10 (12) Twins pitching prospects:

Stewart
Meyers
Berrios
May
Summers
Duffy/Baxendale
Melotakis
Gonsalves/Thorpe
Eades
Jorge

I am not counting Gibson since he is on the 25 man roster. I am also not counting Albers because he might soon be on the 25 man roster. Would Albers fit in the top 15? I'm not sure, but I hope he gets promoted so we can see how he does against mlb hitters.

Is this a great list of prospects? No. Is it better than what the Twins have had for the last five years. Yes! If the Twins have, in June 2014, as they have had in the past two Junes, one of the top five draft picks in each round, then I would bet that they will take the best college starter available in round one to deepen the pool of potential #1/#2 starters in the system, and then I suspect that they would take high ceiling high school starters in rounds 2 and 3 to really flesh out their starting pitching depth. That would complement their position player depth. It is nice to see prospect starters at all levels of their minor league system now--Meyer and May, for example, will likely start next season at AAA (although it is also possible that one of them could break camp with the Twins for the 2014 season).

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Posted 01 August 2013 - 08:22 PM

What a sorry list! Only Albers is as high as AAA, and he sounds a lot like a white Bruce Chen-clone. Pheew! Meyers and May at AA--because the Twins PR machine has to agree with Ryan's trades--I sure hope they are correct, but my skepticism meter is flashing red. The rest are A-ball and lower--total hype for now.

There has been much back-and-forth in other threads blaming GM/not blaming GMs but let's face it the scouts, the cross-checkers, the whole personnel gang has been in place forever. If there is a group to blame it's them!

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Posted 01 August 2013 - 08:37 PM

My completely poorly informed list goes like this:

Stewart
Meyer
Gibson
Berrios
Hendriks
May
Gonsalves
Wimmers
Thorpe
Baxendale

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Posted 01 August 2013 - 08:38 PM

So we have a sorry list of positional players in our minor league system too? Man shoot, Buxton is only at high a. Man shoot Sano and Rosario are only at AA. Man we have a sorry list. When will the twins ever win with all these good prospects low in the minors. We need to fire everyone because we have the number one minor in the game right now. Fire everyone now. If we don't we will continue to have a bright future with one of the best farm systems in the game. Fire them NOW.

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Posted 01 August 2013 - 08:44 PM

Alex Myer
Kohl Stewart
Jose Berrios
Trevor May
Ryan Eades
Mason Melotakis
J.T. Chargois
Lewis Thorpe
Logan Darnell
B.J. Hermsen

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Posted 01 August 2013 - 08:46 PM

My top 10 list.
Gibson
Albers
Diamond
Walters
Hendriks
Darnell
Vasquez
Worley
DeVries
Blackburn
All our AAA/IR starters. lol

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Posted 01 August 2013 - 08:52 PM

Not sure what BA would say, but MLB.com says this: (go there and then click on top 20 by team, select the Twins and you will get the top 9 position players as well...)

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Alex Myer
Kyle Gibson
Kohl Stewart
Jose Berrios
Trevor May
Ryan Eades
Mason Melotakis
Luke Bard
JT Chargois
Stephen Gonsalves
Felix Jorge


good list but I think chargois is staying in the pen. Jorge could be flipped with either Rosario, landa or Thorpe. the one guy I like that you left out is duffey - he's got better stuff than most people realize and has shot at being a no.3.

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Posted 01 August 2013 - 08:54 PM

So we have a sorry list of positional players in our minor league system too? Man shoot, Buxton is only at high a. Man shoot Sano and Rosario are only at AA. Man we have a sorry list. When will the twins ever win with all these good prospects low in the minors. We need to fire everyone because we have the number one minor in the game right now. Fire everyone now. If we don't we will continue to have a bright future with one of the best farm systems in the game. Fire them NOW.


I think your post is inadvertently hilarious.

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Posted 01 August 2013 - 09:17 PM

What a sorry list! Only Albers is as high as AAA, and he sounds a lot like a white Bruce Chen-clone. Pheew! Meyers and May at AA--because the Twins PR machine has to agree with Ryan's trades--I sure hope they are correct, but my skepticism meter is flashing red. The rest are A-ball and lower--total hype for now.

There has been much back-and-forth in other threads blaming GM/not blaming GMs but let's face it the scouts, the cross-checkers, the whole personnel gang has been in place forever. If there is a group to blame it's them!


It's actually pretty middle of the pack if not slightly above average. Pretty rare for teams to have several arms at AA or AAA.

I would recommend taking a look at a few other farm systems for some context.

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Posted 01 August 2013 - 09:35 PM

So Hermsen is no more. Albers came out of nowhere. DeVries is dead. And no one knows what to make of Logan Darnell.
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Posted 01 August 2013 - 09:52 PM

Stewart
Meyers
Berrios
May
Eades
Gonsalves
Everyone else

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Posted 01 August 2013 - 10:26 PM

Stewart
Meyer
May
Berrios
Eades
Jorge
Thorpe
Chargois
Duffy
Gonsalves
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Posted 01 August 2013 - 10:37 PM

so does landa's stuff not match up or what? His numbers look great, and from what I have heard he has pretty good velocity, so why is he not considered a top young are in the system?

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Posted 01 August 2013 - 10:38 PM

It's actually pretty middle of the pack if not slightly above average. Pretty rare for teams to have several arms at AA or AAA.

I would recommend taking a look at a few other farm systems for some context.


Are they also at the bottom of BB in pitching? Everyone?

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Posted 01 August 2013 - 10:48 PM

For me it would be:
Alex Meyer
Kohl Stewart
Jose Berrios
Kyle Gibson*
Trevor May
Alex Wimmer- yes I know, but I'm still optimistic
Stephen Gonslaves
Ryan Eades
Flex Jorge
Yorman Landa
Randy Rosario
Lewis Thorpe
Mason Melotakis

throw in Bard and Chargios once they have pitched a little.

#19 Shane Wahl

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Posted 01 August 2013 - 10:56 PM

Gibson (still counts)
Meyer
Berrios
Stewart

May

Baxendale
Duffey
Eades
Melotakis
Wimmers

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Posted 01 August 2013 - 10:56 PM

so does landa's stuff not match up or what? His numbers look great, and from what I have heard he has pretty good velocity, so why is he not considered a top young are in the system?

Hard to rate him right now. Need more scouting reports and results. Stewart is easy to rate right now because he was the number 4 pick in the draft and was highly scouted. His rating has more to do with ceiling than anything else right now. Full season ball is where prospects start to stick out from fillers.
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