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#1 FanFromAffar

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Posted 26 June 2013 - 04:41 AM

The Marlins lose to everyone this year...except the Twins. Is it because of some kind of Twins kryptonite they've found on us? It's not because "the Twins stink" because they don't. This is a team that has beaten clubs that are much better than the Marlins so what is about Miami? I went back and looked and it seems like Giancarlo Stanton and Rob Brantly bothed played notable roles in the Twins defeat on April 23 and in last nights defeat. Are Brantly and Stanton the Twins kryptonite? or do the Marlins simply posses something like a piece of the last ball to strike out a Washington Senator before the team moved to MN?

More importantly what can we learn from Brantly and Stanton? is it a pitching style that they benefit from?

#2 benchwarmerjim

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Posted 26 June 2013 - 05:57 AM

it might be an NL East thing because the Twins are only 4-10 against that division this year

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Posted 26 June 2013 - 06:23 AM

Or the Twins are 1-2 against them on the season....
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Posted 26 June 2013 - 07:28 AM

It's not because "the Twins stink" because they don't.


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#5 silverslugger

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Posted 26 June 2013 - 07:47 AM

Aaron Gleeman noted in his blog on Tuesday that the Twins basically stink against everyone other than the White Sox and Brewers. So, it may not be just a Marlins thing.

Also, was it just me or were the Miami pitchers benefitting from an extended strike zone yesterday? Disclaimer: I rarely look to blame the umps, especially those behind the plate because it is truly a difficult job.

#6 Mike Sixel

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Posted 26 June 2013 - 07:50 AM

I'd suggest it had something to do with the lineup the Twins put out, and the fact they faced a good pitcher......

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Posted 26 June 2013 - 07:57 AM

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Posted 26 June 2013 - 07:59 AM

It might be that

1) This is major league baseball, not the NFL. There are no prohibitive favorites in any one game, or series. Ever. The Miami Marlins will win 50 or more games this year.

2) These are the 2013 Minnesota Twins, not the 1927 Yankees.

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Posted 26 June 2013 - 08:13 AM

I'm gonna go with small sample size. It's a Multi purpose explanation that really works in a lot of cases.

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#10 gunnarthor

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Posted 26 June 2013 - 09:42 AM

Aaron Gleeman noted in his blog on Tuesday that the Twins basically stink against everyone other than the White Sox and Brewers. So, it may not be just a Marlins thing.


That seems a bit harsh, they're 8-9 against Bal, Boston and Texas (with a positive run differential). That's not too bad. 20-20 outside the AL central. 33-34 against every team except KC.

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Posted 26 June 2013 - 10:28 AM

Everybody plays just about everybody. The Twins were lucky to face the Angels when they were playing terrible. They were not lucky to play Toronto when they weren't playing well. Miami is playing better now and the Twins faced their best pitcher twice now.

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Posted 26 June 2013 - 03:14 PM

Gleeman never lets actual numbers get in the way of an opinion.


He said this; Twins are 10-2 against the White Sox and Brewers, 24-38 against the other teams. Actual, true statemant of fact!

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#13 nicksaviking

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Posted 26 June 2013 - 03:24 PM

I think it's because this team has decided against carrying 3 catchers. It's the downfall of so many great clubs.

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Posted 26 June 2013 - 04:12 PM

He said this; Twins are 10-2 against the White Sox and Brewers, 24-38 against the other teams. Actual, true statemant of fact!


But, like gunnarthor said they are 8-9 against three playoff contending teams. I just think if you're saying the Twins have dominated two bad teams than nothing wrong with mentioning they've done okay against three good teams.

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Posted 26 June 2013 - 05:14 PM

But, like gunnarthor said they are 8-9 against three playoff contending teams. I just think if you're saying the Twins have dominated two bad teams than nothing wrong with mentioning they've done okay against three good teams.

Didn't say there was. You made it sound like AG was making stuff up to suit his point, what he said was true nothing more on my part.

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Posted 26 June 2013 - 06:03 PM

He was cherry picking numbers. The counter is that you can do that a variety of ways to prove almost any point that you want to. Not exactly a shock Gleeman would do that.


A little work by Gleeman, with a slightly broader set of data would make a slightly more valid point.

Twins record vs. teams w/ a winning record: 16-26
Twins record vs. teams w/ a losing record: 18-14

The Twins are 1-5 this year against KC. Their next 4 games are with the Royals, followed by 14 straight games in 14 days with teams with winning records from the Eastern Division.

Let's revisit how the Twins are doing after they run this next gauntlet of 18 games going into the Break.

#17 gunnarthor

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Posted 26 June 2013 - 07:00 PM

What happened to drjim's post that read:

He was cherry picking numbers. The counter is that you can do that a variety of ways to prove almost any point that you want to. Not exactly a shock Gleeman would do that.


#18 gunnarthor

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Posted 26 June 2013 - 07:02 PM

Didn't say there was. You made it sound like AG was making stuff up to suit his point, what he said was true nothing more on my part.


I think the implication was that he seemed to be suggesting that the Twins are only as good as they are b/c they played the White Sox and Brewers and couldn't beat better teams. Reading his actual post at his cite, I think he was more celebrating that the Twins were beating up on those two teams then anything else.

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Posted 26 June 2013 - 07:05 PM

What happened to drjim's post that read:


I didn't do anything to it...Too unfair to Gleeman?
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#20 gunnarthor

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Posted 26 June 2013 - 07:11 PM

I didn't do anything to it...Too unfair to Gleeman?


I guess. I suppose you'll be banned now. Nice knowing you.