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#21 diehardtwinsfan

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Posted 07 June 2013 - 09:25 AM

Does anyone know how much slot money the Twins have left, assuming both Stewart and Eades sign for slot? And how much can they go over before they hit the 5% limit?


The 5% is roughly 700k. Not sure what you mean on the first question... they have enough slot money left to sign everyone else at slot with an additional 700k to throw at someone. I for one would hope that their first two picks go under slot a bit so they could target a guy like Serrano, but from the sounds of it, he's going to play with his dad and come back in 3 years with a shot to be a top 5 guy...

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Posted 07 June 2013 - 09:45 AM

Twins pick #78- Freddie Freeman, Ryan Garko, Ryan Theriot, Steve Busby.
The 4 picks surround it on each side yielded: Chase Utley, Gicarlo Stanton, Marquis Grissom, Zack Cozart, John Olerud, Shaun Marcum, Curtis Granderson, Todd Hollandsworth.

Next pick at #110- Players drafted 110: Ianetta, Jeff Bagwell,
Within 2 picks: Brett Gardner, Dwight Evans, Chad Krueter, Nolasco, Scott Erickson, Paul Byrd,

#23 Smcginnity

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Posted 07 June 2013 - 09:59 AM

Here's an impressive ranking by USA Today on Eades:

MLB draft: Top 20 pitching prospects

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Posted 07 June 2013 - 10:01 AM

Baseball America had Ryan Eades ranked 38th in their final Top 50 Draft Prospects list yesterday before the draft. The Twins got him at 43. Do we really think Boras is going to given sort of break below slot?


Eades should be a slot signing. Never know with Boras though. If Eades has a long productive tourney he might pull a Gausman.

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Posted 07 June 2013 - 10:02 AM

I'd like to see Bobby Wahl though he's another RHP. He has the stuff Ryan Eades does not. His K numbers dropped off this year but they were pretty strong in 2012 so the ability is probably there.

I'd also be interested in Ryon Healy, 1B/3B out of OR. Sounds like a pretty solid defender at either corner infield spot and he can hit. His power is in question though one guy at baseball prospectus who is in love with him says the power is there. Sounds like a poor man's Colin Moran to me.


what "stuff" does wahl have that eades doesn't? he's another mid-rotation starter from the sec. good prospect but to differentiate between a couple of third-tier college starters is going to be scouts' work.

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Posted 07 June 2013 - 10:05 AM

what "stuff" does wahl have that eades doesn't? he's another mid-rotation starter from the sec. good prospect but to differentiate between a couple of third-tier college starters is going to be scouts' work.


I guess I just like starters with 96 MPH fastballs.

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Posted 07 June 2013 - 10:11 AM

The 5% is roughly 700k. Not sure what you mean on the first question... they have enough slot money left to sign everyone else at slot with an additional 700k to throw at someone. I for one would hope that their first two picks go under slot a bit so they could target a guy like Serrano, but from the sounds of it, he's going to play with his dad and come back in 3 years with a shot to be a top 5 guy...


5% of $14 million would be $700k. twins bonus pool is a bit over $8 mil.

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Posted 07 June 2013 - 10:12 AM

I've heard from my sources that Wahl is destined for late reliever, which in round 3 as a worst case scenerio, doesn't hurt my feelings.

BTW my sources are random scouting reports and my almost null knowledge of scouting and baseball.

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Posted 07 June 2013 - 10:13 AM

I guess I just like starters with 96 MPH fastballs.


that'd be his peak, then, which is the same for eades. wahl sits 90-94 and wasn't anything near that at the end of the year. he's harder to square up than eades, though, and throws a slider to eades' curve.

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Posted 07 June 2013 - 10:15 AM

The 5% is roughly 700k. Not sure what you mean on the first question... they have enough slot money left to sign everyone else at slot with an additional 700k to throw at someone. I for one would hope that their first two picks go under slot a bit so they could target a guy like Serrano, but from the sounds of it, he's going to play with his dad and come back in 3 years with a shot to be a top 5 guy...


5% of 8.2M is 410k. If the Twins are going to get one of the tough signs then I think they will need to punt their 4th and/or 5th rd picks to do it.

I doubt Stewart signs for underslot and I wouldn't be surprised if he snagged a little of the extra 5%. You can make a solid argument that he needs to sign but there is an even better argument that the Twins need to sign him.

I would be very surprised if the Twins took any tough to sign picks from here on out. I'm interested in which guy will be this year's Rosario, Walker, Goodrum or Morales though. At this point I don't even care what position they take. I will take anyone that has a shot at working out since 3rd+ rd picks are longshots.

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Posted 07 June 2013 - 10:22 AM

I'd punt my 4th or 5th for Boldt.
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#32 Smcginnity

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Posted 07 June 2013 - 10:25 AM

I say just keep going pitching. We need it so bad! Otherwise, Boldt may be a good get with the local ties.

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Posted 07 June 2013 - 10:27 AM

that'd be his peak, then, which is the same for eades. wahl sits 90-94 and wasn't anything near that at the end of the year. he's harder to square up than eades, though, and throws a slider to eades' curve.


So they're not the same pitcher then?

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Posted 07 June 2013 - 10:27 AM

InfraRen (Minny): Are Ryan Boldt or Jon Denney signable at this point?Nick Faleris on the MLB Draft: I think both would need to be tabbed pretty early today to give teams enough base slot allotment to work with in order to reach the money likely needed to buy them out from Nebraska and Arkansas, respectively. Tough spot for teams with Boldt, since they are working almost exclusively off of reports from last year. Speaking for myself, I'd give either one first round money without too much concern, provided I had risk appropriately allocated otherwise with my other selections.



Bolt's injury could work either way. He could go to Nebraska & improve his stock or he could decide to take the money & not risk getting hurt @ collage & end up with nothing.

I imagine the Twins have some idea what his thinking is but if they have a reasonable chance at him I hope they go for it. Maybe being from Minnesota will give them a slight edge.

Tyler O'Neill might be a good pick if they want to add a catcher. I don't believe he would be a hard sign.

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Posted 07 June 2013 - 10:34 AM

So they're not the same pitcher than?


eades is every bit the prospect that wahl is. if anything, eades has a slightly better arm while wahl is grittier.

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Posted 07 June 2013 - 10:40 AM

Denney or Boldt would be nice. Very weak draft bat wise so grabbing one of these guys now might be our last chance to grab a big bat. Plenty of arms later.

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Posted 07 June 2013 - 10:44 AM

eades is every bit the prospect that wahl is. if anything, eades has a slightly better arm while wahl is grittier.


I prefer Eades to Wahl. Eades will be a starter but I'm not sure 100% sold on Wahl being a starter. In the third round might not be a bad grab if you think you Wahl is a starter.

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Posted 07 June 2013 - 10:44 AM

Denney or Boldt would be nice. Very weak draft bat wise so grabbing one of these guys now might be our last chance to grab a big bat. Plenty of arms later.

Exactly. How about Cavan Biggio?
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Posted 07 June 2013 - 10:49 AM

Denney or Boldt would be nice. Very weak draft bat wise so grabbing one of these guys now might be our last chance to grab a big bat. Plenty of arms later.


I have a feeling Denney is close to unsignable at this point. I think I'd prefer Bolt.

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Posted 07 June 2013 - 10:49 AM

[FONT=Arial]Posted ImageChris Crawford@CrawfordChrisV51s[/FONT]
[FONT=Arial]I'll go with Boldt, Denney a close second RT @colbobr highest ceiling guy you think will get drafted today?

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[FONT=Arial]Posted ImageKiley McDaniel@kileymcd52s[/FONT]
[FONT=Arial]Hearing there may be a deal in place with Jon Denney & Royals if he gets to the 9th pick of the 3rd round. Will be above the $660,900 slot.[/FONT]
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