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#21 markos

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Posted 28 May 2013 - 07:02 AM

I asked a question previously on a Jason Parks chat what he thought of Alex Meyer and he responded by saying something about how he saw him as a late-inning reliever so that is what I was referring to.


Thanks for the clarification. Feel free add any info you hear/read about Meyer to this thread.

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Posted 28 May 2013 - 10:49 AM

Alex Meyer had his 10th start of the season on Memorial Day, and again put in a sub-par performance. He lasted only 5 innings and gave up 4 runs in those innings.

The good:
5 strikeouts in 5 innings.
Only 2 hits allowed.

The bad:
4 walks.
95 pitches in only 5 innings.
1 home run allowed.

The ugly:
Meyer started the game off with 3 straight walks, and allowed a run to score on a wild pitch. His ERA is creeping awfully close to 4.00, and his BB/9 is now over 4.

Season stats:
Meyer's season stats (in 10 starts):
44.2 IP, 24 ER, 51 H, 25 BB, 63 SO, 2 HR
3.95 ERA, 2.80 FIP 1.39 WHIP
10.4 K/9, 4.1 BB/9



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Posted 31 May 2013 - 02:42 PM

Mention of Meyer during Mike Newman's chat on Fangraphs:

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Alex Meyer’s numbers – go/ao, 2 HR allowed, 63K/54.2IP, are fairly eye popping. If he can get his BB rate down to a more acceptable level, are we looking at a potentially dominating pitcher?

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[TD="class: chat_desc, bgcolor: white"]Mike Newman: The stuff is there for him to be a 2/3 starter, but command/control is always the question. It’s great to dream on pure stuff, but he still needs to refine some. One can’t say a pitcher will dominate until this happens.
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Posted 01 June 2013 - 05:45 AM

Alex Meyer had his 10th start of the season on Memorial Day, and again put in a sub-par performance. He lasted only 5 innings and gave up 4 runs in those innings.

The good:
5 strikeouts in 5 innings.
Only 2 hits allowed.

The bad:
4 walks.
95 pitches in only 5 innings.
1 home run allowed.

The ugly:
Meyer started the game off with 3 straight walks, and allowed a run to score on a wild pitch. His ERA is creeping awfully close to 4.00, and his BB/9 is now over 4.

Season stats:
Meyer's season stats (in 10 starts):
44.2 IP, 24 ER, 51 H, 25 BB, 63 SO, 2 HR
3.95 ERA, 2.80 FIP 1.39 WHIP
10.4 K/9, 4.1 BB/9



This is a bit of an over-reaction bordering on needless panic.

In point of fact, he has actually pitched 54.2 innings, not 44.2. Further, his FIP still resides at 2.80- which is good for 5th in the Eastern League- his ridiculously good K/9 rate is also ranked 5th in the EL. And his current BABIP is very high relative to his career number (.325) , indicating a touch of bad luck and a somewhat porous New Britain defense- virtually bereft of ML prospects (Cats defense ranks 10th in the 12-team league). Are EL power hitters squaring up on him? No way, he has a very impressive HR/9 of 0.33- which ranks 4th in the EL.

It can only be said that he has had 3 poor outings in his 10 starts; let's be a little patient while he struggles at times, a 6'9" pitcher with his live arm is going to have growing pains.

Edited by jokin, 01 June 2013 - 05:50 AM.


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Posted 01 June 2013 - 06:52 AM

Thanks, this is encouraging.

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Posted 02 June 2013 - 06:59 PM

As the calendar flipped over into June, Meyer had his best start of the season. Crediting a mechanical change, he dominated everyone in the Bowie Baysox lineup (well, everyone except Brandon Waring). Meyer pitched 6 1/3 innings, and punched out 10 Baysox batters, with only 2 walks and 2 hits allowed.

The great:
Meyer faced 22 batters and struck out 10 - 45% of the plate appearances ended in a K.

The good:
Only two walks and two hits allowed. (Both hits and a walk were to Brandon Waring)

The bad:
He allowed a home run, his 3rd of the season.

Season stats:
Meyer's season stats (in 11 starts):
61 IP, 25 ER, 53 H, 27 BB, 73 SO, 3 HR
3.69 ERA, 2.82 FIP 1.31 WHIP
10.77 K/9, 3.98 BB/9

Meyer's ranking in the Eastern League:
SO - 2nd (74)
K/9 - 2nd (10.77)
FIP - 4th (2.82)
K% - 6th (27.7%)
Batting Average Against - 8th (.225)

To expand on Jokin's comment about batters squaring up the ball against Meyer, I dug through the game logs and counted only 12 extra base hits against him so far this season, with the following breakdown:
2B - 8
3B - 1
HR - 3
Using this, I was able to determine that batters have the following triple-slash against Meyer:
.225/.307/.308
This gives them an OPS of about .615.

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Posted 09 June 2013 - 04:07 PM

Bad news for Alex Meyer.

According to Mike Berardino, Meyer has been put on the disabled list due to a sore shoulder. Hopefully it is nothing major and a few extra days of rest will be sufficient to get him back in good help. In addition, I'm sure the Twins are being extra cautious with one of their best pitching prospect. On the other hand, shoulder injuries are always scary, so there is plenty to worry about.

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Posted 25 June 2013 - 09:50 AM

As far as I have heard, there is no updates on when Meyer will be reactivated after his shoulder soreness. In a piece of good (and old) news, his MRI came back clean: Alex Meyer's MRI clean; 'I don't think anybody thought it was serious' - Minnesota Twins news | 1500 ESPN Twin Cities ? Minnesota Sports News & Opinion (Twins, Vikings, Wolves, Wild, Gophers) | Sportswire: Minnesota Twins If anyone has heard any updates on Meyer's injury, please post them.

In other news, many prospect following sites are going to be releasing updated top-100ish lists based on the first half of the season and the draft. The first updated version I've seen is from Baseball Prospectus: Baseball Prospectus | Prospects Will Break Your Heart: The Mid-Season Top 50 Prospects

[FONT=Arial]#44 RHP Alex Meyer (Twins)[/FONT]
[FONT=Arial]Placement on Pre-Season 101: #88[/FONT]
[FONT=Arial]Current MiLB Level/Affiliate: Double-A New Britain[/FONT]
[FONT=Arial]Prospect Trajectory: Up; most likely still an underrated prospect; questions about ultimate role add risk to a higher ranking; has no. 2 starter upside and a floor of a late-innings bullpen arm; strong second half and improved command could lead to huge offseason jump up the list.[/FONT]
[FONT=Arial]Major League ETA: 2014

This is very interesting, as back in May another scout for this site released a report of Meyer that definitely seemed to suggest that Meyer was destined for the bullpen. This report seems to be much more bullish on Meyer staying in the rotation.

Overall, the Twins were well represented, with 3 on the top-50 list and 2 more in the 'just missed' list.[/FONT]

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Posted 25 June 2013 - 10:24 AM

I keep looking at the Twins SP prospects and am now im thinking they dont really have as much as we thought we did. The top guys were Meyer, Gibson, Berrios and now Stewart. Meyer is super tall and could have alot of complications with that and now hes having injury problems, some are projecting him as a RP. Gibson is 25 and has had TJ so we have no clue how good hes gonna be, Gleeman and the Geek were compairing him to Diamond and Baker. I think thats ridiculous and his cieling is alot higher. Berrios is still in low A but hes been pretty good lately. Stewart still has to play before we can say anything. I just feel like we dont have as much as we thought we did. Stewart is the only potential Ace and I have heard he doesnt even profile as an ace. Idk what to think, cant wait to see Gibson pitch on SAT.
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Posted 01 July 2013 - 07:52 AM

There have been some discussion about Meyer's status, though there doesn't seem to be anything concrete about his return. This is a good summation from a separate Twins Daily article:


And yet, three weeks later, Meyer still has not pitched competitively. It doesn't look like he's especially close to doing so. Over the weekend, New Britain manager Jeff Smith had
this to say about the righty: "Hopefully by the end of the season, really just later in the season, he'll be able to pitch in some games." Matt Straub, who covers the Rock Cats for the New Britain Herald, inferred that to mean Meyer would be out for at least the entire month of July.


It sounds like he is currently in Florida and may begin a throwing program soon.

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Posted 08 July 2013 - 09:06 AM

I haven't heard any updates on Meyer's injury. However, he was ranked in Baseball America's Midseason top-50.

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Hopefully he can get back on the mound soon and continue his development.

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Posted 08 July 2013 - 11:13 AM

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Expects him back in NB soon. Hope so.

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Posted 20 July 2013 - 06:57 PM

Alex Meyer is still shut down, so there haven't been any performance updates in the past few weeks. However, there was an blurb from Scott Boras (Meyer's agent) saying that he has no concerns about the injury or the Twins treatment program. Link here. He also expects Meyer to pitch again before the end of the year.

All of the major mid-season Prospect rankings have now been released, and here is the roundup for Meyer:

Baseball America: #32
Keith Law: #38
John Sickels: #51
Baseball Prospectus: #44
Fangraphs: #36

None of them expressed any major concern about his injury.

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Posted 20 July 2013 - 08:07 PM

That's an average of 40.2. Pretty good!

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Posted 10 August 2013 - 02:01 PM

Meyer finally took the mound again this season, this time for the Ft. Myers Twins in the Gulf Coast League. He faced 9 batters and recorded 5 strikeouts, but gave up a walk and 3 hits before reaching his pitch count limit.

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Posted 10 August 2013 - 02:36 PM

Meyer finally took the mound again this season, this time for the Ft. Myers Twins in the Gulf Coast League. He faced 9 batters and recorded 5 strikeouts, but gave up a walk and 3 hits before reaching his pitch count limit.

I'll take it. Gotta love a 27.0 K/9 rate.

I wonder how the Twins are going to view Alex Meyer heading into next season. Will he be considered a legitimate contender for an MLB rotation spot? He will be 24, and almost certainly the most talented pitcher in camp. Then again, he's probably going to finish this season with under 100 innings pitched, and it seems unlikely he'll get any experience in Triple-A.

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Posted 10 August 2013 - 03:10 PM

I'll take it. Gotta love a 27.0 K/9 rate.

I wonder how the Twins are going to view Alex Meyer heading into next season. Will he be considered a legitimate contender for an MLB rotation spot? He will be 24, and almost certainly the most talented pitcher in camp. Then again, he's probably going to finish this season with under 100 innings pitched, and it seems unlikely he'll get any experience in Triple-A.


That's a great question. He may not even make it back to AA for any meaningful time. Tough to imagine that half a season at AA in 2013 is sufficient for the Twins to think he's ready to compete in March of 2014 for the starting rotation.

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Posted 10 August 2013 - 05:04 PM

It's possible he could pitch in AAA when the wings make the playoffs, they'll need some pitching.

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Posted 10 August 2013 - 05:32 PM

It appears most likely that Meyer and May both start next year in the AAA rotation, with both getting a legitimate chance at cracking the majors as early as opening day. I think this is the best option for both of them, with the best scenario being they both prove they are ready and make it to the Twins ASAP. I don't think Meyer pitches past AA this year.

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Posted 10 August 2013 - 05:59 PM

AFL for Meyer in order to build up some more innings. I bet they just start him at AAA and wait and see next year.