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Spring Training - Game 27 - 3/28/12 - vs Philadelphia

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#1 Seth Stohs

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Posted 28 March 2012 - 09:25 AM

Twins Lineup: Denard Span CF Jamey Carroll SS Joe Mauer C Justin Morneau DH Josh Willingham LF Luke Hughes 1B Danny Valencia 3B Ben Revere RF Alexi Casilla 2B SP Francisco Liriano Phillies Lineup: Jimmy Rollins SS Carlos Ruiz C Hunter Pence RF Ty Wigginton 3B Hector Luna 1B John Mayberry Jr CF Luis Montanez LF Miguel Abreu 2B Vance Worley RHP

#2 Gernzy

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Posted 28 March 2012 - 10:38 AM

Revere in RF. We'll see if he has a chance to make some plays.
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Posted 28 March 2012 - 10:40 AM

I see the Phils got their A lineup in today........ Hopefully Frankie can keep 'em quiet.

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Posted 28 March 2012 - 11:06 AM

Revere in RF. We'll see if he has a chance to make some plays.


In Bollinger's recap of yesterday's game he said "the Twins executed a great relay, as Ben Revere got the ball to Alexi Casilla who threw Andino out at third." I'm curious about whether Casilla had to position himself 100 feet further out as someone suggested or if Revere found his missing arm.

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Posted 28 March 2012 - 11:08 AM

John Shipley just tweeted that in the AAA game, Trevor Plouffe is 3-3 with a double and two home runs. Not too bad!

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Posted 28 March 2012 - 11:16 AM

John Shipley just tweeted that in the AAA game, Trevor Plouffe is 3-3 with a double and two home runs. Not too bad!


What does this mean for Revere? Back to AAA to start the season?

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Posted 28 March 2012 - 11:17 AM

I still can't believe the team is believing that Revere is a major leaguer! Plouffe can hit. Revere cannot. Then throw in the fact that he can't throw, it blows my mind!

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Posted 28 March 2012 - 11:20 AM

Morneau Homer!!! #3!

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Posted 28 March 2012 - 11:21 AM

What does this mean for Revere? Back to AAA to start the season?


I don't think one 3-3 game will alter what anything means for Revere. My guess is he's up as the 4th OF and pinch runner... Plouffe likely the 5th OF and pinch hitter.

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Posted 28 March 2012 - 11:23 AM

Wow, continues to be a great week for the big guy!
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Posted 28 March 2012 - 11:24 AM

According to Dustin Morse, Trevor Plouffe was 4-4 with a double and THREE home runs in that AAA game against the Orioles.

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Posted 28 March 2012 - 11:24 AM

I don't think one 3-3 game will alter what anything means for Revere. My guess is he's up as the 4th OF and pinch runner... Plouffe likely the 5th OF and pinch hitter.



Does this bother anyone else? Besides his range, what does Revere offer?

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Posted 28 March 2012 - 11:25 AM

I still can't believe the team is believing that Revere is a major leaguer! Plouffe can hit. Revere cannot. Then throw in the fact that he can't throw, it blows my mind!


Well, perhaps he's not a starting MLB outfielder, but he can track down fly balls that Plouffe could not reach, and he can steal bases at a good clip (and just generally run faster than Plouffe can), all of which are important attributes for a major leaguer. He'll probably be pretty good off the bench.
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Posted 28 March 2012 - 11:28 AM

Well, perhaps he's not a starting MLB outfielder, but he can track down fly balls that Plouffe could not reach, and he can steal bases at a good clip (and just generally run faster than Plouffe can), all of which are important attributes for a major leaguer. He'll probably be pretty good off the bench.

Well said.

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Posted 28 March 2012 - 11:32 AM

Does this bother anyone else? Besides his range, what does Revere offer?


If hitting .300 at each minor leaguer classifies as not hitting...then...I wish he could not hit as a 4th OF on the team.

EDIT: I'm not saying I want him to make the team, but if you could guarantee me he was going to hit .300+ and have 30-40+ steals...

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Posted 28 March 2012 - 11:35 AM

Well, perhaps he's not a starting MLB outfielder, but he can track down fly balls that Plouffe could not reach, and he can steal bases at a good clip (and just generally run faster than Plouffe can), all of which are important attributes for a major leaguer. He'll probably be pretty good off the bench.



TFFA - My opinion is that they should put the time into Benson and Hicks, not Revere. I'm not saying that Revere doesn't have his uses, but how often do you need just a glove and range in the OF? If you bring him in as a defensive replacement, what good is that if a guy gets on second? A single will always score that run. Plouffe has his problems too, I'm not denying that. I just think that it's time the Twins started to think about out-scoring their opponents now because the pitching staff is going to need it. Plouffe can produce more runs than Revere can save.

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Posted 28 March 2012 - 11:36 AM

Morneau Homer!!! #3!


Just got back from lunch and saw this. Got to love it! Morneau might be a good fantasy waiver pickup.
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Posted 28 March 2012 - 11:41 AM

TFFA - My opinion is that they should put the time into Benson and Hicks, not Revere. I'm not saying that Revere doesn't have his uses, but how often do you need just a glove and range in the OF? If you bring him in as a defensive replacement, what good is that if a guy gets on second? A single will always score that run. Plouffe has his problems too, I'm not denying that. I just think that it's time the Twins started to think about out-scoring their opponents now because the pitching staff is going to need it. Plouffe can produce more runs than Revere can save.


That's fair enough. I just think that some people that rag on Revere's poor arm or lack of power/OBP (both valid and significant faults, mind you) fail to acknowledge the fact that he's one of the few in the lineup that can score from first base on ball in the gap, or can be called on to steal second in a pinch, and have a pretty good shot at doing so. Parker Hageman had a good post several months ago, using some advanced defensive stats, that basically indicated (I'm really paraphrasing) that, what Revere lacks as a result of the arm he makes up for by having exceptional range.

But I agree in the sense that he's probably not the guy you want a sacrifice fly hit to if it's a tie game, and the winning run is on third!
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Posted 28 March 2012 - 11:42 AM

Revere might have more value as a bench player than starter: Defensive replacement, pinch-runner, pinch-hitter to start off an inning.

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Posted 28 March 2012 - 11:44 AM

Was anyone on base for Morneau?
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Posted 28 March 2012 - 11:47 AM

Was anyone on base for Morneau?


Joe Mauer.

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Posted 28 March 2012 - 11:54 AM

This team if healthy will have no problems scoring runs. Also remember this is basically the same starting staff that the Twins had in 2010. I know players have changed but whenever people give this team no chance they strive. Like in 08 after losing Hunter and Santana. 09 as well. I know it will be tough against the Tigers but the Twins have surprised us before.

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Posted 28 March 2012 - 12:00 PM

Anyone else's Gameday stop updating?
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#24 TwinVike61

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Posted 28 March 2012 - 12:04 PM

Anyone else's Gameday stop updating?


The MLB scoreboard was stuck at the bottom of the 3rd with Mauer batting but it just updated to Like Hughes fly out to end it.

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Posted 28 March 2012 - 12:04 PM

Anyone else's Gameday stop updating?


mine is in the top of the 4th

#26 Mr. Ed

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Posted 28 March 2012 - 12:22 PM

Mauer/Morneau rbi singles, Morneau now 3-3.

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Posted 28 March 2012 - 12:23 PM

8-1 on Willingham Sac Fly

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Posted 28 March 2012 - 12:25 PM

Hughes 3 run dinger. H-O-T

#29 Gernzy

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Posted 28 March 2012 - 12:27 PM

Got to love days when everyone hits.
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Posted 28 March 2012 - 12:29 PM

wow 11-1, this is nice. Morneau is starting to pick it up. Carroll has had a nice week too! Now if Frank can get out of this game with giving up only a run....