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#1 AScheib50

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Posted 13 April 2013 - 02:14 PM

According to LEN III Hendriks is going to Rochester. Sounds like Gardy wants more consistency from him. Which makes sense as he has never seemed able to put it all together up here. Hopefully he goes back to Rochester and dominates like last year. Would love for him to come back to Minnesota quickly. How many more shots do the Twins give him at this point? He's still quite young but it doesn't seem like anyone has much faith in him at this point.

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Posted 13 April 2013 - 02:17 PM

Here's the link Twins option Liam Hendriks to make room for Scott Diamond | StarTribune.com

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Posted 13 April 2013 - 02:20 PM

"Gardy wants more consistency." IMO, the problem with Hendriks is he has been all TOO consistent.

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Posted 13 April 2013 - 02:29 PM

I wonder if he ends up as the long man next year (he will be out of options), seems like it could be a good role for him. Wouldn't have to turn over a lineup three times.
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Posted 13 April 2013 - 02:32 PM

Not even a little surprised by this.

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Posted 13 April 2013 - 02:39 PM

Not even a little surprised by this.


I can't say I was surprised, but I would have liked to see him get a follow up start to his last outing. He was at least a little better so it would have been interesting to see if he could have built on that or not.

At what point does he get leapfrogged by the likes of Deduno or Walters if they pitch well and the Twins have a need? I have to think Cole DeVries has the leg up on him at this point, too...

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Posted 13 April 2013 - 02:45 PM

At what point does he get leapfrogged by the likes of Deduno or Walters if they pitch well and the Twins have a need? I have to think Cole DeVries has the leg up on him at this point, too...


One thing you have to consider is that Hendriks has a good 5-8 years head start on those guys ;)

People do not realize that Hendriks is only 8 months older than Aaron Hicks. He should not have any problems being in AAA for a bit. At this point I think that both DeVries and Deduno will be better at the MLB level. That said, Hendriks led the Twins starters in K/9 and K/BB and was second in WHIP. But the people who are running the Twins are looking at P/IP as the most importing number out there.

That said, Harden is starting to pitch in games next week (EST) and if everything goes well, I expect him in the Twins' rotation late May after a sting with the Miracle. And I hope the Twins are within a few games away at that point (or even better ahead :) )

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Posted 13 April 2013 - 03:50 PM

That said, Hendriks led the Twins starters in K/9 and K/BB and was second in WHIP.


That's akin to taking home gold at the Special Olympics.

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Posted 13 April 2013 - 04:41 PM

That's akin to taking home gold at the Special Olympics.


but getting rid of the guy who took the gold, while they are keeping the rest, says something. No?
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Posted 13 April 2013 - 05:08 PM

I'm really surprised Pedro Hernandez wasn't sent down, especially since he's had an injury? (Just wait, in 5 days, he'll be on the 15 day DL). I think this says something about Hendriks. I've lost faith in him, and he might just be a AAAA pitcher.

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Posted 13 April 2013 - 06:24 PM

What is the elusive "consistency" teams are looking for? Just in terms of results, Hendriks had a very bad first game, and improved in the second. If you didn't like the results of the first game, just send him down; if he does better his second time out, does lack of consistency mean he didn't stink twice, and that's what they were looking for?

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Posted 13 April 2013 - 07:17 PM

So going forward this looks like the rotation we'll be going with.
Worley 10.50 ERA, 3 G
Diamond 8.31 ERA, 1 G
Correia 3.14 ERA, 2 G
Pelfrey 7.36 ERA, 2 G
Hernandez 3.86, 2 G

Deduno has been good in Rochester so far and Devries is still on the DL. Plus, Walters and now Hendriks in AAA? What depth!

Edited by YourHouseIsMyHouse, 13 April 2013 - 07:20 PM.


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Posted 13 April 2013 - 07:24 PM

Deduno has been good in Rochester so far

take a mulligan on that
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Posted 13 April 2013 - 07:26 PM

I'd like to see some consistency in opportunity for Hendricks. Even if he's terrible for the next however many months...who cares? Hendricks has nothing more to prove in AAA.

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Posted 13 April 2013 - 07:32 PM

Lack of consistancy? His first start was terrible, why would they want that consistantly? While his second start was far from an instant classic, it was still probably the fourth best performance from a Twins starter this year. Two outings and an improvement in the second and the judgements been made. This organization is a mess. I'm awful curious to see what the plan is with Pelfrey and Worley if they don't improve. I'm farily confident there is no plan and they are just winging it. Poorly.

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Posted 13 April 2013 - 07:41 PM

Two outings and an improvement in the second and the judgements been made. This organization is a mess. I'm awful curious to see what the plan is with Pelfrey and Worley if they don't improve.

And not to mention Correia, who is bound to implode throwing an imperceptible 1.9 K/9. I'd much rather see a AAAA get a shot in the majors than a AAA pitcher pitch in the bigs when he's not ready. Very classy, Twins.

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Posted 13 April 2013 - 08:10 PM

I can't say that I'm delighted that Hendriks was sent down, but there aren't a lot of choices. It was either Hendriks or Hernandez and Pedro has thrown the ball pretty well so far. Three spots were guaranteed coming out of spring training--Worley, Pelfrey and Correia--and barring Marquis-like results they will stay in the rotation for at least another month. With Diamond being ready to go, somebody had to be demoted and the choice was Hendriks. Despite an okay outing in KC, Liam didn't get past the fifth, used an inordinate amount of pitches classified as strikes, and couldn't put people away. I think Hendriks still has a chance and probably will get another shot in the not-to-distant future, but the Twins aren't going to abandon Worley or Pelfrey because of one bad outing each.

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Posted 13 April 2013 - 09:55 PM

Well, I'm surprised. No, Hendriks has not put everything together at MLB, but Hernandez hasn't really put things together at AAA. It's not an egregiously bad move, but I was surprised. Especially after Hernandez was used in the game last night.

Here's the thing - immediately after Hernandez' first game in the postgame interview, Gardy hinted that Pedro was going to be the one to be sent down. So either Gardy didn't understand the rest of the organizations' thoughts on that or Hendrick's second game somehow swung the balance. That doesn't seem like a particularly wise reaction.

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Posted 13 April 2013 - 11:20 PM

It could be having another left hander on the roster was important?

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Posted 14 April 2013 - 06:35 AM

Slightly interesting fact: Liam Hendriks is 8 months older than Aaron Hicks.

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Posted 14 April 2013 - 06:40 AM

This move makes zero sense to me. Hernandez is not a prospect. Hendriks has already proven all he needs to in AAA. Just let him work it out in the majors while we're not contending.

That's akin to taking home gold at the Special Olympics.


I know that's a common expression, but it's terrible. The Special Olympics is an awesome event with great athletes.

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Posted 14 April 2013 - 08:19 AM

Odd that Pedro Hernandez wasn't the choice. Hendriks isn't going to get better at AAA. Pedro Hernandez might.

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Posted 14 April 2013 - 08:40 AM

I find myself agreeing with those who feel he should get a longer look.

I don't have all that much hope that he'll pan out into a regular starter, but in a season when the most we can hope is tread water, and particularly now before we have Gibson/Meyer/May ready for a tryout, why not give him another 5 starts or so and see how it develops?

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Posted 14 April 2013 - 08:52 AM

The Twins aren't going to need a 5th starter for about 10 days. Hernandez can work long relief for the next week or so (which will likely be needed).

This move makes zero sense to me. Hernandez is not a prospect.


I don't think prospect status has anything to do with it, and it shouldn't at this point.

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Posted 14 April 2013 - 09:16 AM

I think it works out ok given today's postponement. Perhaps they projected the postponement when they made the move.

When he returns, I hope he has a different catcher behind the plate.

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Posted 14 April 2013 - 09:34 AM

no way Gardy was gonna keep a guy who gave up one run in 5 innings in cold in his last start. He'd rather have a Pelphrey or Hernandez or Worley battle his tail off & give up 5/6/7 runs. Seriously, I think its time to deal Hendriks as MN has given up on him

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Posted 14 April 2013 - 09:41 AM

Lack of consistancy? His first start was terrible, why would they want that consistantly? While his second start was far from an instant classic, it was still probably the fourth best performance from a Twins starter this year. Two outings and an improvement in the second and the judgements been made. This organization is a mess. I'm awful curious to see what the plan is with Pelfrey and Worley if they don't improve. I'm farily confident there is no plan and they are just winging it. Poorly.


Worley is on a scholarship.
I could see them cutting ties with Pelfrey if he doesnt improve though.

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Posted 14 April 2013 - 10:02 AM

I can't say that I'm delighted that Hendriks was sent down, but there aren't a lot of choices. It was either Hendriks or Hernandez and Pedro has thrown the ball pretty well so far. Three spots were guaranteed coming out of spring training--Worley, Pelfrey and Correia--and barring Marquis-like results they will stay in the rotation for at least another month. With Diamond being ready to go, somebody had to be demoted and the choice was Hendriks. Despite an okay outing in KC, Liam didn't get past the fifth, used an inordinate amount of pitches classified as strikes, and couldn't put people away. I think Hendriks still has a chance and probably will get another shot in the not-to-distant future, but the Twins aren't going to abandon Worley or Pelfrey because of one bad outing each.


One bad outing???
Worley has had: 1 awful outing, 1 bad outing, and 1 mediocre outing. So yeah, if we are counting the NYM start as awful or terrible instead of "bad" then I guess he's only had one bad start.

I find it absolutely hilarious the way you discribe Hendriks: "didn't get past the fifth, used an inordinate amount of pitches classified as strikes, and couldn't put people away."
Worley has pitched 12 innings in 3 starts, and has given up 25 hits in those 12 innings.
Everything you can say about Hendriks can be said 10 fold about Worley.
This organization is never going to turn it around as long as they continue to give full scholarships to players who have never done anything to deserve them.
Its one think for a roster spot to be guaranteed for a guy like Mauer or Willingham or Perkins, its laughable that Worley has done anything whatsoever to guarantee a roster spot.
The guy cannot pitch in the AL.
After his 1 inning beat down against the Mets, he basically said he thought he pitched great but got unlucky.
What a f'ing joke. This guy has no accountability, and should have been sent down for those comments alone.
Its funny that everyone giving Worley a free pass because of "weather conditions" arent giving Hendriks props for pitching pretty well in similar, if not worse weather conditions.

Edited by Mr. Brooks, 14 April 2013 - 10:06 AM.


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Posted 14 April 2013 - 10:42 AM

Hate this move. From an outsider, I can't understand why the Twins aren't putting everything they have in Hendriks to make him succeed. Maybe he has something specific they want him to work on? If that is true, why the **** did Gardy spew bull**** about consistency? He's had 2 starts! Last season he didn't get an extended look until the end of the year. Complete idiots.
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Posted 14 April 2013 - 11:07 AM

Hate this move. From an outsider, I can't understand why the Twins aren't putting everything they have in Hendriks to make him succeed. Maybe he has something specific they want him to work on? If that is true, why the **** did Gardy spew bull**** about consistency? He's had 2 starts! Last season he didn't get an extended look until the end of the year. Complete idiots.


They want him to be consistent like Worley and Pelfrey. :)