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#181 snepp

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Posted 17 September 2013 - 05:41 PM

Twins surged past Miami last night to grab second place on the MLB negative run differential leader board.


Three game better than our pythag? RonG for MotY!

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Posted 18 September 2013 - 11:52 AM

There are 95 pitchers who have pitched at least 140 innings this year. Amongst those 95, Pelfrey ranks 93rd in ERA.
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#183 ThePuck

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Posted 18 September 2013 - 02:28 PM

Only one bullpen in the AL has allowed a higher % of inherited runs than ours and only one AL team has allowed more inherited runs to score.

Expand that out to all of MLB, only 3 MLB teams have allowed a higher % of inherited runs to score than ours and only one MLB team has allowed more inherited runs to score.

Our bullpen ranks 5th in inherited runners.
Just remember: You put the lime IN the coconut. Only THEN, can you drink it all up.

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Posted 18 September 2013 - 06:32 PM

Only one bullpen in the AL has allowed a higher % of inherited runs than ours and only one AL team has allowed more inherited runs to score.

Expand that out to all of MLB, only 3 MLB teams have allowed a higher % of inherited runs to score than ours and only one MLB team has allowed more inherited runs to score.

Our bullpen ranks 5th in inherited runners.

I chalk all that up to 2 things: crappy starting pitching, obviously, but also Gardy's tendency to make reactive moves with his starters rather than proactive ones. He never seems to remove starters until too late.

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Posted 20 September 2013 - 04:41 PM

Catcher
League average 246/314/399
Twins 302/381/476

1B
League 260/333/449
Twins 258/320/411

2B
League 265/324/382
Twins 245/313/399

3B
League 262/323/422
Twins 247/305/369

SS
League 256/309/375
Twins 225/283/336

LF
League 257/319/408
Twins 228/318/383

CF
League 264/328/415
Twins 225/291/348

RF
League 263/323/419
Twins 236/313/389

DH
League 245/324/401
Twins 220/302/354

#186 Oldgoat_MN

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Posted 20 September 2013 - 04:55 PM

Catcher
League average 246/314/399
Twins 302/381/476

1B
League 260/333/449
Twins 258/320/411

2B
League 265/324/382
Twins 245/313/399

3B
League 262/323/422
Twins 247/305/369

SS
League 256/309/375
Twins 225/283/336

LF
League 257/319/408
Twins 228/318/383

CF
League 264/328/415
Twins 225/291/348

RF
League 263/323/419
Twins 236/313/389

DH
League 245/324/401
Twins 220/302/354


That was pretty much anything BUT fun with numbers.
Sure am glad our catchers have good stats.

Wait, that's mostly that one guy.

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Posted 20 September 2013 - 11:01 PM

That was pretty much anything BUT fun with numbers.
Sure am glad our catchers have good stats.

Wait, that's mostly that one guy.

Yeah, Pinto sure bumps up the numbers.

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Posted 20 September 2013 - 11:14 PM

The Twins have a chance to score fewer than 600 runs this season. If my research is correct, only two teams have "accomplished" that in the past 10 years.

#189 Mr. Brooks

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Posted 22 September 2013 - 10:07 AM

I chalk all that up to 2 things: crappy starting pitching, obviously, but also Gardy's tendency to make reactive moves with his starters rather than proactive ones. He never seems to remove starters until too late.


The crappy starting pitching would certainly inflate the actual number of inherited runners scored, but I fail to see how it would affect the %.
This bullpen is overrated. While I won't go as far as to say that ERA has no value as far as bullpens go, I think it is near the bottom of the list.

#190 ThePuck

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Posted 22 September 2013 - 10:25 AM

I chalk all that up to 2 things: crappy starting pitching, obviously, but also Gardy's tendency to make reactive moves with his starters rather than proactive ones. He never seems to remove starters until too late.


It's funny you say that. One another site, a fan was talking about how he thought Gardy was better this year at utilizing his relief corp and pointed out their collective ERA. I put up the same info I put here and wrote: '[COLOR=#000000][FONT=Helvetica Neue]That seems to suggest, at least to me, that he's waiting too long to use his relief corp.'
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And I really can't see an argument otherwise. If the bullpen ERA is as good as it is, but they allow that high a % of inherited runners to score, then the manager is not working his relief corp well...he's leaving the starters in too long. At the same time, a good bullpen, stops the bleeding.[/SIZE][/FONT][/COLOR]
Just remember: You put the lime IN the coconut. Only THEN, can you drink it all up.

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Posted 14 October 2013 - 10:12 AM

I've really never posted to this thread but thought about it as I was looking at strikeout numbers this morning.

We all know that Twins pitchers struck out the fewest batters this year but did you know that:

-they struck out 99 less than the Astros (the 2nd lowest AL team)?

-American League teams averaged 1235.74 strikeouts per pitching corps while NL teams averaged 1211.66? (remarkably similar)

-the variation from the average in the AL was incredible -- the Twins were 250 SO's below the average while the Tigers were 192 above the average; the NL was much more "compact" with the Rockies being 147 below the average and the Reds were 84 above

-the Yankees were the "mean" in the AL with 1233 while the D'Backs were the mean in the NL with 1218 (the mean in both leagues was surprisingly close to the average in both leagues).

-the pitching staffs of the remaining four playoff teams struck out: Tigers (1428); Red Sox (1294); Dodgers (1292); Cards (1254); the teams that lost earlier in the playoffs/wild cards/playin games lost: Reds (1296); Pirates (1261); Braves (1232); Indians (1379); Rays (1310)

-Braves at 1232 had the lowest number of strikeouts of any playoff team



Disclaimer: I took the figures from baseball reference and think I got all of them from the Pitching column not the batting column. If I screwed up on any of them, I apologize.

Raw numbers:

[TABLE="width: 128"]
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[TD="width: 64"]Twins[/TD]
[TD="width: 64, align: right"]985[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Astros[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]1084[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Orioles[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]1169[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]A's[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]1183[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Angels[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]1200[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Royals[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]1208[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Jays[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]1208[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Yankees[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]1233[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]White Sox[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]1249[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Red Sox[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]1294[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Mariners[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]1297[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Rangers[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]1309[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Rays[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]1310[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Indians[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]1379[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Tigers[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]1428[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]
Rockies[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]
1064[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Brewers[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]1125[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Padres[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]1171[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Marlins[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]1177[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Cubs[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]1184[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Phillies[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]1199[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Mets[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]1209[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]D'Backs[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]1218[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Braves[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]1232[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Nats[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]1236[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Cardinals[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]1254[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Giants[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]1256[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Pirates[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]1261[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Dodgers[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]1292[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Reds[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]1296[/TD]
[/TR]
[/TABLE]

#192 ThePuck

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Posted 14 October 2013 - 10:22 AM

Our relief staff had 33 more Ks than our rotation.
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#193 nicksaviking

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Posted 14 October 2013 - 11:49 AM

The Twins had only one qualified pitcher this year. Just as they did in 2012 and 2011. Amont qualifers, the Twins single qualified pitcher had the 7th fewest strikeouts in 2011, 2nd fewest in 2012 and the fewest in 2013.

These were never the same pitcher.

To make these facts fun::jump:

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Posted 14 October 2013 - 02:26 PM

Time to pile on: Justin Verlander and Max Scherzer combined to strike out 457 hitters this year. Twins starters--all of them added together--struck out 477.

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Posted 15 October 2013 - 04:17 AM

Outside of Correia and Deduno, the rest of the Twins starters somehow combined to deliver 600IP for -6.0 WAR (6.0 WBR?)

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Posted 15 October 2013 - 05:12 AM

Number of Twins fans depressed after reading this thread +1.
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Posted 15 October 2013 - 07:14 AM

Number of Twins fans depressed after reading this thread +1.


Severely underestimated.

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