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#1 Nick Nelson

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Posted 10 February 2013 - 09:49 PM

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#2 Ultima Ratio

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Posted 10 February 2013 - 11:04 PM

Phew, at least we'll get a good, extended look at all the young guys he's blocking.





/snark

#3 mnfanforlife

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Posted 11 February 2013 - 12:23 AM

Eh, Diamond's absence would allow us to evaluate someone else. We're not going to be winning, with or without Scotty D. So give him all the time he needs. He's not a real ace anyway, just a desperate attempt to fill the "ace role" with a surely awful pitching club in 2013

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Posted 11 February 2013 - 12:29 AM

Somehow, THIS is still relevant. Even after the numerous trades and free-agent signings...these four are still my best bet to stick long-term.

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Posted 11 February 2013 - 12:42 AM

He could switch to being a righty, but I sense a case of bilateral arm weakness coming on.

/snark

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Posted 11 February 2013 - 08:30 AM

He could switch to being a righty, but I sense a case of bilateral arm weakness coming on.

/snark


Bazinga....

#7 mike wants wins

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Posted 11 February 2013 - 08:40 AM

so, Worley, and Corriea, and um, who? I think they'll start Gibson in AAA. So, Hendriks. That leaves two open spots for injured guys, or AAAA guys. Two open spots. As some of us have been saying, this approach left no room for error/injury. Right now, this rotation looks like last year's rotation. Hopefully Hendriks is what some of us think he can be, and not what he was last year.

What I just typed is probably an opinion, not a fact. I mean, I'm usually right, so you should maybe assume it is or will be a fact soon, but that's up to you. :)


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Posted 11 February 2013 - 09:02 AM

Was there some sort of explanation why the surgery didn't happen until December?

#9 Nick Nelson

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Posted 11 February 2013 - 09:07 AM

Was there some sort of explanation why the surgery didn't happen until December?


According to La Velle, Diamond felt soreness late in the year but thought it was normal. When it was still bothering him during offseason throwing routines, they decided to do the surgery.

Still, kind of weird. Don't all these guys have year-end physicals where this type of stuff is supposed to be caught?

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Posted 11 February 2013 - 09:24 AM

This kind of backs up all the ideas that some have expressed around here regarding the fact that if you're going to rely on a rotation composed of a bunch of guys coming off arm injuries, you might want to have some contingency plans in place.

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Posted 11 February 2013 - 09:30 AM

The rotation could begin without Diamond, Pelfrey, and Gibson then. Worley is opening day starter . . . then Correia, Hendriks, Deduno, and DeVries???

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Posted 11 February 2013 - 09:35 AM

Pelfrey is supposed to be on schedule.

I think we are looking at Worley, Pelfrey, Correia, Hendriks, DeVries

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Posted 11 February 2013 - 09:37 AM

Pelfrey is supposed to be on schedule.

I think we are looking at Worley, Pelfrey, Correia, Hendriks, DeVries


Putting fear into the hearts of lineups everywhere...

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Posted 11 February 2013 - 09:40 AM

Pelfrey is supposed to be on schedule.

I think we are looking at Worley, Pelfrey, Correia, Hendriks, DeVries


You're only on schedule until you inevitably have a setback.

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Posted 11 February 2013 - 09:44 AM

"Where'd that bone chip come from?"

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Posted 11 February 2013 - 09:48 AM

Yes! More kindling to the fire on the Twins training personnel! They seriously do themselves no favors. I don't mind really. I think we'll see Worley, Correia, Hendriks, Pelfrey and Harden. I've had enough of De Vries, Deduno and all the other POS pitchers that logged innings last season. Pelfrey needs to prove he can pitch and will want to start in the MLB right away, and Harden deserves a shot to start out of the gate and if he has set-backs move him to the pen and let him be a shut-down set-up guy.
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Posted 11 February 2013 - 10:30 AM

Who was it again that was telling us there was NO ROOM for Saunders because, well, he'd be blocking all these prospects?

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Posted 11 February 2013 - 11:42 AM

According to La Velle, Diamond felt soreness late in the year but thought it was normal. When it was still bothering him during offseason throwing routines, they decided to do the surgery.

Still, kind of weird. Don't all these guys have year-end physicals where this type of stuff is supposed to be caught?


Thanks. I assumed there was some sort of reason, but missed the LEN article. Your question about end-of-season physicals is a very good one. You can't catch everything, but would seem that with very specific stress points like sore knees or elbows, imaging or other methods might provide early diagnosis for conditions that require surgery, therapy, or even just preventive measures like a re-tooled offseason regimen.

Edited by LaBombo, 11 February 2013 - 12:34 PM.


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Posted 11 February 2013 - 12:59 PM

I can't help but laugh. What is going on in MN? Why does every athlete that MN fans deem important suffer injury? Some sort of hex has been placed on us and the karmic pendulum seems to have forgotten to swing back in our direction. OH PLEASE MAKE IT STOP!

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Posted 11 February 2013 - 02:49 PM

I have to say, I'm deeply nervous and skeptical about medical news coming from the Twins these days. They've had quite a few significant injuries over the past few seasons, and seem to have managed to handle them very poorly overall.

I don't know if it's incompetent medical staff, poor communications, bad luck, or what but it's gotten a little absurd. How many times will we get a report that an injury or surgery is considered "minor" only to have it turn out to be much worse? How many players will be considered day-to-day for weeks?

At a certain point you have to stop believing word one about what the Twins staff says about an injury. Sigh.

#21 FrodaddyG

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Posted 11 February 2013 - 02:53 PM

Good news from the Twins medical staff. Diamond should be out of the wheelchair by the All Star Break.

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Posted 11 February 2013 - 02:54 PM

Good news from the Twins medical staff. Diamond should be out of the wheelchair by the All Star Break.


Right around the time Harden needs it...

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Posted 11 February 2013 - 02:55 PM

Right around the time Harden needs it...

Arrangements for Harden's memorial service are still being planned out.

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Posted 11 February 2013 - 02:56 PM

This kind of backs up all the ideas that some have expressed around here regarding the fact that if you're going to rely on a rotation composed of a bunch of guys coming off arm injuries, you might want to have some contingency plans in place.


"Plan B" has never been found in the Twins operations manual.

#25 jokin

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Posted 11 February 2013 - 03:01 PM

At a certain point you have to stop believing word one about what the Twins staff says about an injury. Sigh.


Right, except that point of certainty left the harbor a couple seasons back...except for the legion of "Yes We Can" fans who continue to enjoy their cruise on the General Bellgrano...Google Image Result for http://www.wrecksite.eu/img/wrecks/general_belgrano_sinking.jpg

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Posted 11 February 2013 - 03:06 PM

Good news from the Twins medical staff. Diamond should be out of the wheelchair by the All Star Break.


I vote that the Benny Hill theme plays in the background every time a medical update is given.

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Posted 11 February 2013 - 03:39 PM

According to La Velle, Diamond felt soreness late in the year but thought it was normal. When it was still bothering him during offseason throwing routines, they decided to do the surgery.

Still, kind of weird. Don't all these guys have year-end physicals where this type of stuff is supposed to be caught?


Perhaps not last year seeing as at the time the Twins were busy firing the head trainer.

I'm still thinking after a second opinion in May, the sore elbow is going to be deemed a misdiagnosis and he actually has a case of appendicitis.

Edited by nicksaviking, 11 February 2013 - 03:52 PM.


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Posted 11 February 2013 - 03:40 PM

Arrangements for Harden's memorial service are still being planned out.


That may be taking the 'rest' portion of rest-and-rehabilitation a bit too far.

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Posted 11 February 2013 - 03:45 PM

These things happen. Twins should start Gibson and then shut him down late in the season. Diamond will take over when he's ready.

I don't believe this is "on the training staff". Pitchers have problems, some just grit their teeth through them, others require agressive treatment.

If you were one of the "winning season" posters, you maybe should revise your estimate for this season's win total.

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Posted 11 February 2013 - 03:51 PM

According to La Velle, Diamond felt soreness late in the year but thought it was normal. When it was still bothering him during offseason throwing routines, they decided to do the surgery.

Still, kind of weird. Don't all these guys have year-end physicals where this type of stuff is supposed to be caught?


Yeah, that was exactly my question the other day in the Diamond thread. The parallels to Mauer are significant. Why, only two months out from reporting, are you having surgery? Why isn't this being checked thoroughly nearly three months sooner at the end of the season? It's this sort of thing that really makes me question the competency of our training staff. (Not trying to start a flame war on them, but seriously....you didn't get this taken care of until almost 3 months had passed?)

I get that injuries happen, but are late December surgeries common around the league? Sure doesn't seem like it.

Edited by TheLeviathan, 11 February 2013 - 03:54 PM.