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#1 BrentMpls

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Posted 30 January 2013 - 10:26 AM

Saying, but not saying, that concrete settling may be a reason left field is tougher to hit out of.

Also said they are still evaluating moving in the fences.

1500 1/30 with Judd.

Concrete settling is some of the craziest excuse for poor hitting out there. Can't believe he just implied it, still, here in 2013. :th_alc:

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Posted 30 January 2013 - 10:32 AM

Left field? Seems odd.

#3 gunnarthor

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Posted 30 January 2013 - 10:48 AM

Saying, but not saying, that concrete settling may be a reason left field is tougher to hit out of.

Also said they are still evaluating moving in the fences.

1500 1/30 with Judd.

Concrete settling is some of the craziest excuse for poor hitting out there. Can't believe he just implied it, still, here in 2013. :th_alc:


Jason Giambi once said the same thing.

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Posted 30 January 2013 - 10:52 AM

Did he actually say settled in in reference to the physical space? Or was he saying the park factors haven't really settled in, to give them a good idea what kind of ballpark it really is?

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Posted 30 January 2013 - 11:47 AM

Man, the Twins built a tough ballpark. Between the trees out in CF, the concrete settling and the no-man's land to the gaps... they have built a modern day labyrinth.
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Posted 30 January 2013 - 11:51 AM

Man, the Twins built a tough ballpark. Between the trees out in CF, the concrete settling and the no-man's land to the gaps... they have built a modern day labyrinth.


If we could only find Jennifer Connolly in it ....

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Posted 30 January 2013 - 12:11 PM

Saying, but not saying, that concrete settling may be a reason left field is tougher to hit out of.

Also said they are still evaluating moving in the fences.

1500 1/30 with Judd.

Concrete settling is some of the craziest excuse for poor hitting out there. Can't believe he just implied it, still, here in 2013. :th_alc:


Can someone explain what effect this would have or why there's even a theory that it would? I'm being serious here.

Also, does it somehow negatively affect our pitching as well and what is Josh Willingham's super power to negate the effect?

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Posted 30 January 2013 - 12:11 PM

What's wrong with left field? One of you is seriously confusing left field with right field.

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Posted 30 January 2013 - 03:01 PM

Concrete settling??? That seems crazy.

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Posted 30 January 2013 - 04:12 PM

Did the Twins spend the rest of their available budget on an excuse-making machine? It seems in full gear these days....

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Posted 30 January 2013 - 04:31 PM

They have to explain why the Twins are generally near the bottom of team HRs heat year-after-year--especially when the top HR hitter is a guy who came from a different team (Thome/Willingham).

I always chuckle when the Twins describe a young guy (draftee/minor leaguer) as a 5-tool player yet his HR total speaks so softly.

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Posted 30 January 2013 - 04:41 PM

The details are a bit hazy from all the mind numbing chemicals it required to watch Twins games in 2012, but I recall other teams' hitters doing just dandy with that settling concrete in Target Field,

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Posted 30 January 2013 - 04:48 PM

The details are a bit hazy from all the mind numbing chemicals it required to watch Twins games in 2012, but I recall other teams' hitters doing just dandy with that settling concrete in Target Field,


maybe if our hitters got to face our pitchers, we'd have no issues ourselves? :-)

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Posted 30 January 2013 - 05:01 PM

If we could only find Jennifer Connolly in it ....

Although I think they have their Hoggle:
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Posted 30 January 2013 - 05:16 PM

maybe if our hitters got to face our pitchers, we'd have no issues ourselves? :-)

Now if we can just convince the rest of the league that the Nick Blackburns of the world are the guys you want for all 5 of your starting pitchers...

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Posted 30 January 2013 - 05:40 PM

Also, just because:
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I still think that they had a significant costume budget on that movie, yet every morning when Bowie walked in, they just threw their arms up and said "Screw it, go with what you've got on, Dave". (I may have enjoyed that movie a little too much since my childhood.)

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Posted 30 January 2013 - 05:45 PM

Concrete isn't the problem, I blame it on the torrid of insults being hurled by disatissfied fans in the stands.
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Posted 30 January 2013 - 05:53 PM

Concrete isn't the problem, I blame it on the torrid of insults being hurled by disatissfied fans in the stands.

Move those fans to foul territory!

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Posted 30 January 2013 - 06:16 PM

Did he actually say settled in in reference to the physical space? Or was he saying the park factors haven't really settled in, to give them a good idea what kind of ballpark it really is?


Could somebody who actually witnessed this please answer this question? Otherwise, this will just devolve into a Terry Ryan-bashing thread.

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Posted 30 January 2013 - 06:23 PM

Could somebody who actually witnessed this please answer this question? Otherwise, this will just devolve into a Terry Ryan-bashing thread.


We have to give Kevin Correria a rest for awhile.

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Posted 30 January 2013 - 07:05 PM

For those interested here is the link:
Judd & Dubay | 1500 ESPN Twin Cities ? Minnesota Sports News & Opinion (Twins, Vikings, Wolves, Wild, Gophers)

Hour 2 from 1/30

When asked if you guys knew if the ballpark was be tough for lefties to hit out of the park (TR wasn't involved in that was he?... anyway) TR says:

"Well this ballpark hasn't settled in I don't think ... I don't know about concrete settling in .. I wasn't a part of this thing all that much but we set out to make it fair..."

I just couldn't believe that I actually heard the stadium settling/concete being used as a possible excuse for poor performance, and by Terry Ryan of all people.


The details are a bit hazy from all the mind numbing chemicals it required to watch Twins games in 2012, but I recall other teams' hitters doing just dandy with that settling concrete in Target Field,


Too true

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Posted 30 January 2013 - 07:09 PM

Well, we can hold out hope that the RF fence settles down another 12 or so feet, rendering that high wall less of an obstacle to our otherwise fearsome Murderers' Row of lefty mashers.

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Posted 30 January 2013 - 07:10 PM

Did he actually say settled in in reference to the physical space? Or was he saying the park factors haven't really settled in, to give them a good idea what kind of ballpark it really is?


The latter.
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Posted 30 January 2013 - 07:17 PM

Could somebody who actually witnessed this please answer this question? Otherwise, this will just devolve into a Terry Ryan-bashing thread.


Well, it certainly could be misinterpreted....but what other reason is Terry Ryan talking about concrete? Just a few years ago Thome had "heard about" this same issue. Seems like an organizational selling point Ryan is just now voicing directly to me.

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Posted 30 January 2013 - 07:28 PM

For those interested here is the link:
Judd & Dubay | 1500 ESPN Twin Cities ? Minnesota Sports News & Opinion (Twins, Vikings, Wolves, Wild, Gophers)

Hour 2 from 1/30

When asked if you guys knew if the ballpark was be tough for lefties to hit out of the park (TR wasn't involved in that was he?... anyway) TR says:

"Well this ballpark hasn't settled in I don't think ... I don't know about concrete settling in .. I wasn't a part of this thing all that much but we set out to make it fair..."

I just couldn't believe that I actually heard the stadium settling/concete being used as a possible excuse for poor performance, and by Terry Ryan of all people.




Too true


So that would be to RF, not LF... :-)

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Posted 30 January 2013 - 07:34 PM

Well, it certainly could be misinterpreted....but what other reason is Terry Ryan talking about concrete? Just a few years ago Thome had "heard about" this same issue. Seems like an organizational selling point Ryan is just now voicing directly to me.


He's talking about how the park is settling into more of a pitchers or hitters ballpark and whether it is "fair". He answered in the context of the RF fence being too far and if it would make sense to move in fences.

What he did not do was suggest concrete had any negative impact on the team compared to the opposition. That would be a problem.
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Posted 30 January 2013 - 07:41 PM

He's talking about how the park is settling into more of a pitchers or hitters ballpark and whether it is "fair". He answered in the context of the RF fence being too far and if it would make sense to move in fences.

What he did not do was suggest concrete had any negative impact on the team compared to the opposition. That would be a problem.


No but he's suggesting the concrete settling is part of how the field is playing. Which is something Thome regurgitated a few years back about why it's hard to hit home runs. Essentially, Ryan is verifying this weird notion that part of why lefties don't hit homeruns is because of how the concrete is or is not settling.

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Posted 30 January 2013 - 07:54 PM

Ryan is verifying this weird notion that part of why lefties don't hit homeruns is because of how the concrete is or is not settling.


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Posted 30 January 2013 - 08:03 PM

Can someone explain what effect this would have or why there's even a theory that it would? I'm being serious here.

Also, does it somehow negatively affect our pitching as well and what is Josh Willingham's super power to negate the effect?


still wet concrete doesnt relect the heat ,dried concrete causing riasing heat to help carry the ball?

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Posted 30 January 2013 - 08:04 PM

And witches.


and days that end in 'y', but only for his lefties... :-)