Posted 10 January 2013 - 11:09 PM
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Posted 11 January 2013 - 01:29 AM
Posted 11 January 2013 - 02:29 AM
I must have missed the Memo.
Posted 11 January 2013 - 02:32 AM
Are we back to being a Small Market Team?.
Apparently, because that fits the "defend the front office for the continually plunging payroll" narrative.
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Posted 11 January 2013 - 05:16 AM
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Posted 11 January 2013 - 08:29 AM
Grady may well be right about Ryan genuinely wanting to get better pitchers initially. But the whole idea of prices escalating beyond expectations would only be accurate if the Twins' expectations were absurdly unrealistic.
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Posted 11 January 2013 - 09:00 AM
Next year, Justin Morneau's 14 million will be coming off the books. This may drop the payroll into the 60's. Very little room available to sign quality Pitching.
And Blackburn's $5.5M, and Jamie Caroll, Pelfry, etc. the payroll liability for the Twins in 2014 right now is more like in the low 40s. This boggles my mind since there are no impending large arbitration awards on the horizon. The only explanation I could see is that Ryan believes none of the pitchers that got multi-year deals was worth it. I know I would feel a lot better if they signed Shaun Marcum to a 2-year deal at $8-10M per year. Clearly he has not signed because no one wants to give him a long-term contract or more money. This would not break the bank and he would be a great fit for Target Field so it is puzzling.
Posted 11 January 2013 - 09:08 AM
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Posted 11 January 2013 - 09:28 AM
The market went where the market was expected to go, when you realize every team is getting 25 million more in revenue next year. What is the baseball inflation adjusted salary relative to the dome years, anyone know?
Our payroll in 2007 was a 71.4M...regular inflation makes that just under 80M today. That's where our current payroll sits. And players salaries have gone up at a higher rate than standard inflation.
Posted 11 January 2013 - 09:29 AM
I don't think the Twins were legitimately going to compete in 2013 regardless. Detroit is too good. But I am very excited about the direction of the team. And frankly, young, talented players are much more valuable than just spending money to spend money.
Sometimes I feel like a few people would be happier if the Twins would have given Correia 2 years and $50 million because then the payroll would be back at $100 million and "at least the Pohlad's won't pocket it."
Posted 11 January 2013 - 09:36 AM
What is the process for signing a player with the Twins? Were the Twins estimates as far off as the knowledgeable fans here were? How quickly did they react? Does Ryan have free reign to spend 90 million? I have a suspicion that the Pohlads have to approve of any contract over 5 million given how the offseason went. Does the process the Twins use hurt them in signing players? Nobody asks the players if the Twins contacted them. Maybe it is because they wouldn't trust the player to be honest with an answer if one were obtained at all. The journalists don't look for the factors involved, they just push the blame Ryan bandwagon.
To say that the Twins are a large or mid market team is to ignore the paltry money earned from cable. As the newness of the stadium wears off, the revenue streams from it will be less.
Posted 11 January 2013 - 09:48 AM
It became apparent a long time ago that no first or second tier healthy free agent would sign here.
Repeat ridiculous talking point enough times, someone eventually might believe you.
Do you by any chance work for Fox News?