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#21 mike wants wins

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Posted 09 December 2012 - 05:54 PM

Saunders and Lannan are the only ones with a chance to be better than the Deduno line, and both can be had for 2-year contracts which fits the 2015 timetable for the youngsters. I'd go after them both.


That makes a lot of sense to me. I would love to hear why others disagree.


Because they are $25MM below last year's spend, have Blackburn coming off next year, and are getting $25MM more in tv revenue next year. Maybe Morneau is coming off next year. I disagree because they have money to spend this year on good pitching. They have even more next year. There is no good reason not to sign pitchers that you expect to be good this year, next year, and the year after.

What I just typed is probably an opinion, not a fact. I mean, I'm usually right, so you should maybe assume it is or will be a fact soon, but that's up to you. :) Also, I am NOT trying to convince anyone I am correct, I'm just talking here, not arguing.


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Posted 09 December 2012 - 06:25 PM

Both Diamond and Worley can be 12-15 game winners if they continue to pitch close to 180-200 innings and pitch like they have in the last year minus the injuries and if The Twins can get 2 more pitchers who can do the same then we will have the ability to compete for the playoffs. I don't think we will be heavy favorites but we won't be doormats like the last 2 years either.

If we can find a way to trade for another top 150 prospect or 2 or 3 that would be great for our future, SS Dee Gordon of LA.....

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Posted 10 December 2012 - 08:50 AM

I orignally wanted Marcum and McCarthy. I thought we'd have a good chance at both and they would be in our price range.
Now that McCarthy is gone I'd like to see Marcum and Lannan.
We'll see what happens. I have a feeling this week will say alot.
I bent my wookie...

#24 johnnydakota

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Posted 10 December 2012 - 09:07 AM

When will the twins quit wadding in the kiddy pool and actualy dive into the deep end?
Why not sign an asset,instead of a reject?

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Posted 10 December 2012 - 09:30 AM

I do not think the Twins will sign any pitcher with durability issues after paying for Pavano and Baker last year. That they paid Pavano shows at least a willingness to part with money for a pitcher they believe will be decent for them.

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Posted 10 December 2012 - 09:40 AM

robbie is that you?

#27 Shane Wahl

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Posted 10 December 2012 - 09:41 AM

I don't think Marcum is going to cost much more than Pavano's contract plus "inflation" (inflation works a bit differently within the baseball world).

John Lannan is not good. Career 1.39 K/BB rate and it is getting worse. And that's not due to be a wild fireballer. His k rate is 4.7 for his career. He's Nick Blackburn (pre 2012) with bad control. He's given up more hits than innings pitched. Etc. etc. There is no reason to sign this guy for even a minimum deal, much less multiple millions of dollars. Throw Hendriks out there instead.

Correia is almost as bad. Myers is declining and may not be able to start. Hopefully the domestic violence has stopped. Saunders COULD perform well. I just wouldn't trust it though.

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Posted 10 December 2012 - 09:42 AM

Mike is right on, but they won't do it, they will wait until all the fans are gone first.

#29 Shane Wahl

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Posted 10 December 2012 - 09:43 AM

Sorry but:

Diamond
Marcum
Worley
Hendriks
Deduno/DeVries/Gibson eventually

is a better rotation than adding in two of these guys anywhere.

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Posted 10 December 2012 - 10:15 AM

but you don't have Marcum, you got Black burn instead.

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Posted 10 December 2012 - 02:42 PM

[quote name='mike wants wins'][quote name='glunn'][quote name='ashburyjohn']Saunders and Lannan are the only ones with a chance to be better than the Deduno line, and both can be had for 2-year contracts which fits the 2015 timetable for the youngsters. I'd go after them both.[/QUOTE]

That makes a lot of sense to me. I would love to hear why others disagree.[/QUOTE]

Because they are $25MM below last year's spend, have Blackburn coming off next year, and are getting $25MM more in tv revenue next year. Maybe Morneau is coming off next year. I disagree because they have money to spend this year on good pitching. They have even more next year. There is no good reason not to sign pitchers that you expect to be good this year, next year, and the year after.[/QUOTE]

I was posting in reply to the question in the thread. Not to the exclusion of also going after someone better. Also, going after someone doesn't presume success since other teams will be bidding too and the player will have some opinion about where he'd like to go. My point was there is simply no purpose in signing someone who doesn't have even the potential to be better than the multiple AAAA options the Twins currently have for starting pitching.

#32 mike wants wins

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Posted 10 December 2012 - 02:51 PM

Wow, then I totally read your post wrong! My bad. I agree, they should not sign guys likely to be about the same or a tiny bit better than their current options.