Posted 09 December 2012 - 08:21 PM
Gordon is a decent SS with potential and lots of speed. He is on the trading block and I like him better than what we currently have. I was just thinking of a proposal. if anyone has other ideas please suggest what you think they are worth to acquire as Campuano helps in the short run and Gordon could be our SS for the next 4-6 years.
Questionable defense and questionable bat? What's not to dislike?
He just isn't good enough to be throwing a top 100 (almost top 50) prospect at.
Posted 09 December 2012 - 09:09 PM
I'd be surprised if Coletti and Ryan haven't spoken on the phone... It seems like a match to me. They got Pitching... We need Pitching... They need a left hander in the pen... They won't be interested in an average LOOGY so Perkins would be a great pick up for them.
Am I crazy here?
Posted 09 December 2012 - 09:24 PM
I can't WAIT for the Dodgers to crash and burn, they already wasted a ton of money last year to only miss the playoffs, now handing out an absurd contract to Greinke? looool. As far as the scrubs they have at the back end? pass, unless they want to give them away for nothing. (I would go after Billingsley in a heart beat though!
Also FWIW: Magic Johnson is a terrible businessman... how do I know? He originally owned the 5 year old building I currently live in, he went bankrupt within 16 months and it was sold for pennies on the dollars to a new ownere and they turned everything into rentals, now the owners make a real nice profit year over year. Also, his line of Magic Johnson Movie Theaters (like 100+ nation wide) went bankrupt as well recently.
Antoine Walker is a terrible businessman, Magic's done pretty damn well for himself. He's invested in so many different projects some are bound to fail. I doubt his ventures have filed bankruptcy anywhere near as often as Donald Trump's do. Trump sure seems to know how to turn a profit.
Posted 09 December 2012 - 09:48 PM
prefer for younger talent (as mentioned by kab21). Dodgers now have 8 starters, they may not get full value for their extra starters. Duensing instead of Robertson, or add Butera (Dodgers also looking for back up catchers).
Posted 09 December 2012 - 11:02 PM
Capuano's ERA and WHIP match up with Diamond in 2012 but Capuano has nearly double his K's in about 20 more innings of work.
When you consider the other options out there. I'm not sure why Capuano wouldn't interest a Twins team starved for pitching. He's left handed and doin alright... He had Tommy John and missed 2009 but has been a much better pitcher since.
Age I guess... Would be a concern... He is 34... But he we are talking 1 year and an option for 2014... He did fade some last year but was also lights out the first 2 or 3 months in 2012.
Harang doesn't excite me... Also 34... But he does eat innings. You could do worse at the back of the rotation.
Zach Lee... I don't think the Dodgers would go that way... They are overloaded with starters and the farm is light. Maybe they would but should the Twins add another arm that won't help this year. Wouldn't 2 in the hand be better than 1 in the bush...
We need some starters... Are these guys worse considerations than Myers, Pelfrey, Lannan. Are the salaries out of line? Blanton was considerably worse and got 15 over 2 years.
Could Perkins bring them both to Minnesota. Perkins plus ? Or would the Dodgers have to add something? Would it be Perkins for Capuano straight up?
I believe this could be a decent match. Losing Perkins would be problem but we could find a closer. Valverde? Wilson? K--Rod? Somethng homegrown...
I gotta believe that Perkins would be near the top of their want lists.
Diamond... Worley... Capuano... Gibson... Harang... You'd still have money left.
Edited by Riverbrian, 09 December 2012 - 11:07 PM.
Posted 10 December 2012 - 11:37 AM
I really fail to understand why the Twins would be trading a valuable piece like Perkins for two old starters that are almost FA's. The Twins should pick up a guy like them but they shouldn't be trading a valuable piece for them.
This. If the Dodgers no longer want Capuano or Harang or want to shed some salary, then they should be willing to do so for nearly nothing. It's not going to take Perkins or anything else of value.
Posted 10 December 2012 - 12:01 PM
Posted 10 December 2012 - 01:03 PM
As it stands today the Dodgers have 2 to 3 starters too many. I'm curious to see what Tiwns Daily thinks... What is reasonable in return for Perkins.
Myself.. if Capuano and Harang are possible for Perkins... I'm listening. Capuano alone... I'm not so sure. But I sure would like him on the roster.
Posted 10 December 2012 - 02:28 PM
Are you building for 2013 or the future? Getting a pair of average at best 30+ starters for a valuable trade chip hurts the future? If you are going to trade perkins then go after a nice prospect like zach lee or similar?
I get the first question but the second two are confusing the hell out of me. Are they answers posed as questions? You're tricksy.
Edited by twinsnorth49, 10 December 2012 - 02:32 PM.
Posted 10 December 2012 - 02:54 PM
It doesn't seem to me as if the Dodgers are interested in shedding payroll.
Bingo! If there's a team that has starting pitching depth that might look to make a deal to save money, it's the Royals... and the price increases (or it should) when trading within the division... so realistically, the Twins are left in the cold here too (twice!).
And honestly, the Twins are looking for stopgap-type guys to bridge the gap to the young'ns... take a fliar on a younger-ish guy coming off a down year (Jurrjens/Lannan) or a guy looking to pitch in a different role (Villanueva or Myers - if you're ok with an older guy), just to see if he could help out in a couple years when the team is looking to compete.
If the Dodgers were looking to give Capuano away, great... but I think they'd be more willing to give TR a couple million just to hang up. (Cause it's obvious "millions" isn't a big deal to them.)