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Article: Ben Revere Traded to Philly for RHP Vance Worley & Top Pitching Prospect

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#31 raindog

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Posted 06 December 2012 - 11:31 AM

Wow, huge trade. Both guys seem to have upside. Good K/9 rates. Worley had successful bone chip removal in September. Injury bothered him last year. The year before he had very nice numbers.

#32 gunnarthor

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Posted 06 December 2012 - 11:31 AM

Worley and May. I guess it's a good gamble. Worley could be a TJ guy soon and isn't really much more than a #4 but should eat innings, which we really need and is cheap. May walks a lot of guys but if he can get that under control .... he's a gamble but a worthy one, I suppose.

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Posted 06 December 2012 - 11:31 AM

A crazy idea.... would Gardy Sizemore be a good pick up if signed on a make good contract or is he still hurt? I haven't heard anyone say they thought Hicks or the other guys would be ready this spring.

May all our prospects be All Stars and the beer be free.


#34 Twins Twerp

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Posted 06 December 2012 - 11:32 AM

Chances the TWINS sign Michael "Jason" Bourn??? That is what this offseason was about.

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Posted 06 December 2012 - 11:33 AM

I guess they have been dangling these two guys for a few days: http://www.csnphilly...9865&feedID=693

Good deal for both teams.

#36 notoriousgod71

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Posted 06 December 2012 - 11:33 AM

How is the tone of the message board now????

#37 Seth Stohs

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Posted 06 December 2012 - 11:34 AM

You can view the page at http://twinsdaily.co...illy-for-Worley

#38 SpiritofVodkaDave

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Posted 06 December 2012 - 11:34 AM

Wow, amazing trade.

The TR haters should be eating a lot of Crow these days.

Also, Philly fans will looooooovvveeeeee Revere...haha.

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Posted 06 December 2012 - 11:35 AM

Regardless of how this plays out, I promise not to rip TR for this trade at any point down the line.

If this was the get for Revere, I'm kind of surprised we didn't get more for Span.

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Posted 06 December 2012 - 11:37 AM

Revere for Worley straight up would have been a good trade.
Revere for May straight up would have been a great trade.

I can't believe we got both of these guys. Face it, Revere had maybe one year where he would be our best CF option. There is a good chance that by June he would have been back to a 4th OF anyways due to Hicks.

#41 AllhopeisgoneMNTWINS

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Posted 06 December 2012 - 11:37 AM

Great trade pretting effin excited for the return we got. Everyone...go to church this weekend and pray that Worley is not going to have Tommy John eventually. Someone tried to tell me the other day CFs have no value this year...look what we just got for Revere! Grade Trade...very excited.....! ;)

#42 glanzer

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Posted 06 December 2012 - 11:37 AM

AND RHP Trevor May. TR got this one right.


Holy crap. TR just ****ed the Phillies so hard.

Pardon my French. There's no better way to put it.


Couldn't agree more. This is vintage Terry Ryan here. Has the feel of the Pierzynski trade... only way more initial excitement.

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Posted 06 December 2012 - 11:39 AM

Revere for Worley straight up would have been a good trade.
Revere for May straight up would have been a great trade.

I can't believe we got both of these guys. Face it, Revere had maybe one year where he would be our best CF option. There is a good chance that by June he would have been back to a 4th OF anyways due to Hicks.


I cant believe we got both of these guys either! As much as I liked Revere he sooner or later would have been replaced...just like you said Dave.....My question is......Morneau and Willingham....are they next? I was reading the the Rockies believe Cuddyer has lots of value due to this OF market right now.....so I really wonder what Willingham could get us in return.

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Posted 06 December 2012 - 11:40 AM

Chances the TWINS sign Michael "Jason" Bourn??? That is what this offseason was about.


Ha, none, Boras is going to be pissed at the Twins for flooding the market with cheap centerfielders. The Twins might as well go after Josh Hamilton.

#45 cmathewson

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Posted 06 December 2012 - 11:40 AM

Interesting that we actually got more for Revere than we did for Span. I'd put May between Meyers and Gibson. Worley becomes the number 2 starter, for the time being, behind Scott Diamond.

#46 neboo

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Posted 06 December 2012 - 11:40 AM

For some reason I picture TR sitting in a room with Ben Revere fielding highlights playing on a large screen behind him while the Phillies brass walks in. Using it as distraction to pull off the deal.
I'll Denard your Span.

#47 AllhopeisgoneMNTWINS

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Posted 06 December 2012 - 11:42 AM

[quote name='glanzer'][quote name='Brock Beauchamp'][quote name='Boom Boom']AND RHP Trevor May. TR got this one right.[/QUOTE]

Holy crap. TR just ****ed the Phillies so hard.

Pardon my French. There's no better way to put it.[/QUOTE]

Couldn't agree more. This is vintage Terry Ryan here. Has the feel of the Pierzynski trade... only way more initial excitement.[/QUOTE]

This trade made me as hard as watching Kate Upton do the Cat Daddy Dance!

#48 roger

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Posted 06 December 2012 - 11:42 AM

Will Joe Benson be starting in center field on opening day? Whereas Hicks may be the centerfielder of the short-term future, I doubt the Twins believe he will be ready on opening day. More likely sometime next summer. As for Benson, everything possible went wrong last year including two serious injuries (hamate bone and knee). What effect that had on his dismal season is unknown, however, one has to assume it had a real effect. If 100% healthy in spring, he just could report to Fort Myers and 'win' the starting centerfield job. On the other hand, Mr. Ryan will probably scrounge around for someone to compete with Mastroianni for center/4th outfielder should neither of the close kids win the job.

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Posted 06 December 2012 - 11:43 AM

Nice deal for the Twins, from a Braves fan perspective, I'm happy to see Worley out of the division. For some reason, he was the only righty (including Halladay) in the division that confuddled the Braves consistently. He's not an ace by any means, but he's a very solid pitcher whose stuff seems to "explode" to its location at the end. What that means, for those who don't understand the physics of it, is that unlike a normal pitch that slows down as it reaches the plate, Worley's pitch maintains velocity to the catcher's mitt, which is very deceptive to the hitter, and it leads to a lot of called strikes. I see May a lot like Meyer. If he can stick as a starter, he's ace possibility, but he's got a very high probability of spending his career as a stellar reliever rather than a starter because of some odd mechanics that could wear down over a season of 200+ innings.
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Posted 06 December 2012 - 11:44 AM

Well there's really no doubt 2013 is a reabuild year now. There's no one batting ahead of Mauer who can get on base now. I hope the Twins go all in about the rebuild and keep getting prospects for the expendable vets. I can wait a year and seems like everyone on this board is in agreement. It will be a harder sell to the regular Twins fans watching at home though.

#51 Miles

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Posted 06 December 2012 - 11:44 AM

Love Revere, but this seems like a great trade for the Twins.

#52 Monkeypaws

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Posted 06 December 2012 - 11:47 AM

Well there's really no doubt 2013 is a reabuild year now. There's no one batting ahead of Mauer who can get on base now. I hope the Twins go all in about the rebuild and keep getting prospects for the expendable vets. I can wait a year and seems like everyone on this board is in agreement. It will be a harder sell to the regular Twins fans watching at home though.


It's easier top be patient when you have a competent GM at the helm as opposed to a bumbling buffoon.

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Posted 06 December 2012 - 11:48 AM

I like what they got for Revere considering what Revere was but I believe Meyer will end up better than both of the guys we got for Revere.

I do love this trade though...partly cause I don't feel we lost much...but also because it addresses pitching for the present and future. Ryan robbed the Phillies GM, which is fun to see.

#54 gunnarthor

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Posted 06 December 2012 - 11:49 AM

I don't mind rebuilding, I enjoy watching the Twins and spending time following prospects. Should be fun to watch young guys learn to play at the major league level.

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Posted 06 December 2012 - 11:49 AM

Well there's really no doubt 2013 is a reabuild year now. There's no one batting ahead of Mauer who can get on base now. I hope the Twins go all in about the rebuild and keep getting prospects for the expendable vets. I can wait a year and seems like everyone on this board is in agreement. It will be a harder sell to the regular Twins fans watching at home though.


Unless they bring Hicks up and he does what he's capable of doing...heck bring up Hicks and Arcia now....which is what I wanted all along

#56 Monkeypaws

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Posted 06 December 2012 - 11:51 AM

Good trade for Philly, great trade for the Twins.

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Posted 06 December 2012 - 11:51 AM

I like what they got for Revere considering what Revere was but I believe Meyer will end up better than both of the guys we got for Revere.

I do love this trade though...partly cause I don't feel we lost much...but also because it addresses pitching for the present and future. Ryan robbed the Phillies GM, which is fun to see.


Meyer is a better prospect than May.

But given how many pitchers the Twins need in both the short and long term, it's impossible not to love this deal.

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Posted 06 December 2012 - 11:53 AM

new top 10. I guess we should wait till spring training at this pace to do one of these lists.

1. Sano
2. Buxton
3. Arcia
4. Meyers
5. Hicks
6. Gibson
7. May
8. Rosario

THis system is getting deep.

I guess CF is now Hicks to lose.

#59 AllhopeisgoneMNTWINS

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Posted 06 December 2012 - 11:54 AM

I like what they got for Revere considering what Revere was but I believe Meyer will end up better than both of the guys we got for Revere.

I do love this trade though...partly cause I don't feel we lost much...but also because it addresses pitching for the present and future. Ryan robbed the Phillies GM, which is fun to see.


Meyer is a better prospect than May.

But given how many pitchers the Twins need in both the short and long term, it's impossible not to love this deal.


Exactly.....Is Morneau and Willingham next?!

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Posted 06 December 2012 - 11:55 AM

It had to be done, I guess. I liked Revere, but didn't think the Twins could carry him and Span in the OF (not enough power). Now, both are gone. Who plays center next year? Aaron Hicks? Joe Benson? Mastro? Well, you can't say that Ryan had a do-nothing Winter Meetings.