Jump to content

Providing independent coverage of the Minnesota Twins.
Subscribe to Twins Daily Email
Photo

Strib's JoeC: Brett Myers' Agent says Twins "perhaps very interested"

  • Please log in to reply
50 replies to this topic

#41 Brock Beauchamp

Brock Beauchamp

    Owner

  • Administrators
  • 20,324 posts

Posted 25 November 2012 - 03:59 PM

[quote name='jorgenswest'][quote name='Brock Beauchamp'][quote name='jorgenswest']The budget is not the reason I am concerned about the Twins adding players to a bad team that are highly likely to decline.

They need to build a foundation and then add. Veteran players are an attempt to patch a crumbling foundation. You know the patch won't last long and will weaken over time. The patch does make things look a little better today.

Adding veterans to a 2010 Twins team makes more sense.[/QUOTE]

So what should they do? Not spend the money and give ABs to Drew Butera? What does that accomplish?[/QUOTE]

I believe we are back where we started.

My comment on Myers was to sign him to a one year deal and flip him at the trade deadline. That is what I would have done with Doumit instead of extending him.[/QUOTE]

Doumit's value was very low at the deadline. While teams need a backup catcher that can hit, no team is going to fall over themselves to trade much of anything for a three month rental of said backup catcher. Look at what the Twins got for Liriano. Halve that and there's your return on Doumit.

And at that point, why bother? If you can extend that guy, you do it because his value as a three month rental is minimal and he fills a need on your team. As an added bonus, if you trade him the following year, his value will be higher.

#42 jorgenswest

jorgenswest

    Senior Member

  • Members
  • 3,831 posts

Posted 25 November 2012 - 04:02 PM

I look forward to the return.

#43 snepp

snepp

    Curve Hanger

  • Twins Mods
  • 6,259 posts
  • LocationSioux Falls

Posted 25 November 2012 - 08:40 PM

Doumit is worth more to the Twins under his current contract than any anemic return they would have received in a trade.

Member VP of the "Baseball Player Positional Flexibility" Club


#44 Brandon

Brandon

    Senior Member

  • Members
  • 1,807 posts

Posted 25 November 2012 - 09:42 PM

Myers is worth a 2 year 18 million contract. If the Twins can get him signed and then trade a CF for another starting pitcher then we are only one more starting pitcher away from a rotation.

#45 Alex

Alex

    Senior Member

  • Members
  • 978 posts

Posted 26 November 2012 - 06:43 AM

I look forward to the return.



Even if you are right, is 3.5M *2 that big of a deal? It's one thing to argue the Twins should have traded Willingham or Morneau but Doumit's return and contract are far more insignificant.

#46 Brock Beauchamp

Brock Beauchamp

    Owner

  • Administrators
  • 20,324 posts

Posted 26 November 2012 - 07:03 AM

I look forward to the return.



Even if you are right, is 3.5M *2 that big of a deal? It's one thing to argue the Twins should have traded Willingham or Morneau but Doumit's return and contract are far more insignificant.


Yep. This team already has enough Esmerling Vasquezes. We don't need more of that player.

And that's what the return on Doumit would have been at the deadline.

#47 Cody Christie

Cody Christie

    Twins Contributor

  • Twins Writers
  • 1,350 posts

Posted 26 November 2012 - 07:14 AM

Can't say I would be excited by Myers signing with the Twins but it seems like the kind of move they would make. I wonder if there are more teams interested in him now that this story was widely reported??

Cody Christie
@nodaktwinsfan
 


#48 Boom Boom

Boom Boom

    Cham-Peen of the World

  • Members
  • 1,759 posts

Posted 26 November 2012 - 08:54 AM

No thanks to Myers.

We're talking about giving a year with an option (or even 2 years?) to a guy who's been a mediocre starter in the NL and has since been converted to a reliever. And since becoming a reliever, his K/9 has actually decreased.

I know the Astros have been a poorly run organization recently, but they know this guy better than the Twins do... and the Astros didn't want Myers in their awful rotation.

#49 beckmt

beckmt

    Senior Member

  • Members
  • 2,175 posts

Posted 26 November 2012 - 10:10 AM

Astro's use of Myers was very different. They wanted to see what pitchers could turn out to be useful in the future, Myers was better in the bullpen and they could get a better return for him using him in that role. If Myers is the cheapest of the FA starting pitchers the Twins signed, I think this could be a good move. Reason Twins are so high on his list is that he could be used as a starter.

#50 TheLeviathan

TheLeviathan

    Twins News Team

  • Members
  • 15,185 posts

Posted 26 November 2012 - 04:52 PM

2 years and 7M for Myers? Oof, the difference between reality and pre-offseason speculation continues to grow!

#51 Alex

Alex

    Senior Member

  • Members
  • 978 posts

Posted 26 November 2012 - 06:44 PM

Myers has been a fly ball pitcher in hitters' parks. His k/bb ratio is good and he strikes out more hitters than most Twins pitchers. Looking at him more closely, I actually think he might be a decent fit for the Twins in Target Field. Obviously there are risks involved and his last season could be a bad sign or it could be a pitcher in a role he's not used to, or it could be a good thing not a lot of mileage went onto his arm. If they can get him for $5-6M for no more than two years it wouldn't be a terrible signing, though I'd agree I'd hope they'd still get another pitcher or two.