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#21 PseudoSABR

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Posted 20 November 2012 - 06:54 PM

That contract doesn't look horrible to me, kind of what I would expect really. Thats why I say spend the money and get Grienke. Don't **** around with mediocre pitchers like Guthrie.

I'm not surprised by the amount, but the length.

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Posted 20 November 2012 - 07:07 PM

Bad clubs have to take chances and spend more. Twins have issue noted above that they do not look like a contender. That raises prices and reduces the number of FA's who want to play here.

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Posted 20 November 2012 - 07:18 PM

Hardballtalk had him as the 35th best free agent this year. If people do not want a guy like him, what are you expecting?


I'm more worried that the 35th best FA just got a 3/25 contract...

#24 mike wants wins

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Posted 20 November 2012 - 09:54 PM

There are 30 teams with multiple holes and the tv contract is adding 20 million next year. What would you expect the 35th best player to get? You all know contract values are going up, right?

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Posted 20 November 2012 - 11:40 PM

This is why I always advocated signing Santana and Hunter for whatever they were asking for. The way salaries skyrocket a lot of deals will end up looking like steals just because of how awful all the new contracts are.

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Posted 21 November 2012 - 12:38 AM

Let him have his $8 million or so per year.

Three years? Hells no.

#27 TheLeviathan

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Posted 21 November 2012 - 08:22 AM

I'm more worried that the 35th best FA just got a 3/25 contract...


It's FA with a ton of cash floating around....what in god's name do people expect? I'll keep saying it, Baker is going to look like a steal at 5M by the end of this.

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Posted 21 November 2012 - 09:23 AM

I'm more worried that the 35th best FA just got a 3/25 contract...


It's FA with a ton of cash floating around....what in god's name do people expect? I'll keep saying it, Baker is going to look like a steal at 5M by the end of this.

I have to wonder where the Twins drew the line with him. Maybe he just didn't want to come back or wanted to try somewhere else. I don't blame him since the Twins training staff completely destroyed his ability to make a lot of money this offseason.
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#29 greengoblinrulz

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Posted 21 November 2012 - 09:47 AM

Twins havent spent on a FA pitcher as good as Guthrie in 2 decades.....Sid Ponson still upright?

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Posted 21 November 2012 - 10:02 AM

[quote name='Badsmerf'][quote name='TheLeviathan'][quote name='diehardtwinsfan']I'm more worried that the 35th best FA just got a 3/25 contract...[/QUOTE]

It's FA with a ton of cash floating around....what in god's name do people expect? I'll keep saying it, Baker is going to look like a steal at 5M by the end of this.[/QUOTE]
I have to wonder where the Twins drew the line with him. Maybe he just didn't want to come back or wanted to try somewhere else. I don't blame him since the Twins training staff completely destroyed his ability to make a lot of money this offseason.[/QUOTE]

My understanding is that the sticking point was the option year. The Twins were insistent on one and Baker was adamant against.

I can see it from both sides. With the assumption that Baker pitches well in 2013, the Twins were hoping to get an extra year at a relatively cheap salary. From Baker's standpoint, his next contract is probably going to be his last so he is hoping that he can get a 3/30+ after next season and didn't want to wait an extra year to hit FA again.

#31 TheLeviathan

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Posted 21 November 2012 - 01:08 PM

I have to wonder where the Twins drew the line with him. Maybe he just didn't want to come back or wanted to try somewhere else. I don't blame him since the Twins training staff completely destroyed his ability to make a lot of money this offseason.


My point more was that people are crediting the Twins for not spending that much on Baker. By the end, that credit is going to look really foolish when the pricetags keep rolling in.

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Posted 21 November 2012 - 01:40 PM

From fangraphs

http://www.fangraphs...jeremy-guthrie/

I fear the Twins will soon celebrate with the Royals.