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Who might be the Joe Benson of 2013?

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#1 Pius Jefferson

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Posted 16 November 2012 - 05:00 PM

The prospect with high expectations who had a horrible season. Nothing went right for Benson last year. Might something similar happen to Arcia, or Hicks? Perhaps one of the Rookie league players has difficulty adjusting to a full season.

#2 AllhopeisgoneMNTWINS

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Posted 16 November 2012 - 05:08 PM

Oh man i sure hope something similar doesnt happen to Arcia or Hicks...

#3 John Bonnes

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Posted 16 November 2012 - 05:11 PM

It might be Benson.

I'm going to go with Berrios. Second place is Arcia. Third is Sano.

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Posted 16 November 2012 - 05:15 PM

It might be Benson.

I'm going to go with Berrios. Second place is Arcia. Third is Sano.


Beson will probably do only slight better than last year (Gut feeling). I remember Keith Law saying he isnt a big fan of Berrios due to the fact he thinks his stuff wont get any better and eventually hitters will catch up.

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Posted 16 November 2012 - 05:18 PM

The prospect with high expectations who had a horrible season. Nothing went right for Benson last year. Might something similar happen to Arcia, or Hicks? Perhaps one of the Rookie league players has difficulty adjusting to a full season.


Anthony Slama.

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Posted 16 November 2012 - 05:19 PM

The prospect with high expectations who had a horrible season. Nothing went right for Benson last year. Might something similar happen to Arcia, or Hicks? Perhaps one of the Rookie league players has difficulty adjusting to a full season.


Anthony Slama.


I wouldnt refer to Slama as a prospect anymore. I dont think anyone should have high expectations for him anymore either. Seems like he is and always be just a good minor league pitcher.

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Posted 16 November 2012 - 06:11 PM

Today, I feel like my glass is half full and optimism flows through my veins. My gut tells me all of our top prospects will progress, the worse case scenario is no progress, but no regression. I will say this - it would be awful if Kyle Gibson is 2013's Joe Benson. That would not only be a crowbar to the rib cage - it would also be a stake through the heart, destroying the hopes of having a pitching prospect that can help in the present time or near future.

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Posted 16 November 2012 - 06:18 PM

[quote name='AllhopeisgoneMNTWINS'][quote name='ashburyjohn'][quote name='Pius Jefferson']The prospect with high expectations who had a horrible season. Nothing went right for Benson last year. Might something similar happen to Arcia, or Hicks? Perhaps one of the Rookie league players has difficulty adjusting to a full season.[/QUOTE]

Anthony Slama.[/QUOTE]

I wouldnt refer to Slama as a prospect anymore. I dont think anyone should have high expectations for him anymore either. Seems like he is and always be just a good minor league pitcher.[/QUOTE]

seriously? how would one really know? i hope the twins trade him or release him if they don't give him a real shot to see. as for projecting who might have the luck of benson's 2012.......... i won't even go there. i can't think in those terms, i won't think in those terms - to close to "a self fulfilling prophecy" / a wish for misfortune.

Edited by h2oface, 16 November 2012 - 06:23 PM.


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Posted 16 November 2012 - 06:45 PM

Pretty sure that Rosario is too good to be true. It would only make sense that he suffer an even further setback than the ball to the eye.

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Posted 16 November 2012 - 06:49 PM

[quote name='AllhopeisgoneMNTWINS'][quote name='ashburyjohn'][quote name='Pius Jefferson']The prospect with high expectations who had a horrible season. Nothing went right for Benson last year. Might something similar happen to Arcia, or Hicks? Perhaps one of the Rookie league players has difficulty adjusting to a full season.[/QUOTE]

Anthony Slama.[/QUOTE]

I wouldnt refer to Slama as a prospect anymore. I dont think anyone should have high expectations for him anymore either. Seems like he is and always be just a good minor league pitcher.[/QUOTE]

A fine line between trying for a quick joke and trolling. Maybe I eradicated that line, this time.

#11 AllhopeisgoneMNTWINS

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Posted 16 November 2012 - 07:01 PM

[quote name='ashburyjohn'][quote name='AllhopeisgoneMNTWINS'][quote name='ashburyjohn'][quote name='Pius Jefferson']The prospect with high expectations who had a horrible season. Nothing went right for Benson last year. Might something similar happen to Arcia, or Hicks? Perhaps one of the Rookie league players has difficulty adjusting to a full season.[/QUOTE]

Anthony Slama.[/QUOTE]

I wouldnt refer to Slama as a prospect anymore. I dont think anyone should have high expectations for him anymore either. Seems like he is and always be just a good minor league pitcher.[/QUOTE]

A fine line between trying for a quick joke and trolling. Maybe I eradicated that line, this time.[/QUOTE]

I wasnt kidding and im not a troll. Its reality. Slama is just a good minor league pitcher at best.

#12 glunn

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Posted 16 November 2012 - 07:40 PM

I am too superstitious to name anyone in this thread.

#13 old nurse

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Posted 16 November 2012 - 07:41 PM

Every player gets injured at some time. I would hope every player thinks they should be at a higher level than what they are currently playing at. I hope every player is that competitive. Joe Benson is a reflection of the big league pitching staff. Everything that could go wrong did. I hope no prospect has to go through that.

#14 Physics Guy

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Posted 16 November 2012 - 10:01 PM

Could we be a little more pessimistic? Are we really trying to predict who will have a crappy season next year? Damn the Twins need to do something soon so we have something to talk about.

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Posted 16 November 2012 - 10:12 PM

FREE SLAMA!!!

Go Sioux

#16 raindog

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Posted 16 November 2012 - 10:28 PM

Could we be a little more pessimistic? Are we really trying to predict who will have a crappy season next year? Damn the Twins need to do something soon so we have something to talk about.


Exactly what I was thinking.

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Posted 17 November 2012 - 08:24 AM

Well, Benson's main problem (besides injuries) is that he didn't have great plate discipline and that caught up with him when he went above AA. And he had actually repeated AA to get used to that. So, how about Goodrum? Struck out a lot in rookie ball, although he did walk a lot, too. Might have trouble in A ball.

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Posted 17 November 2012 - 08:43 AM

I think this thread makes a great point that needs to be interjected into most all the threads and posts here. That is, that very few prospects, even highly rated ones, make it to the big leagues much less turn into stars. I haven't done the exact math but approximately, for every 10 minor leaguers only 1 makes it to the big leagues. Or another way to put it is that if you think you have several great prospects (ie the Twins minor league outfielders) the odds would dictate that maybe one or two at the most end up really being a good MLB caliber player. So, when people post plans that include every prospect making the big leagues, they are dreaming.

#19 ashburyjohn

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Posted 17 November 2012 - 01:14 PM

I was joking in the first place - "Free Anthony Slama" is a constant refrain here - and your response was in line with my actual thinking as well, leading me to think *I* was coming across as trolling for serious responses.

#20 ashburyjohn

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Posted 17 November 2012 - 01:20 PM

I think this thread makes a great point that needs to be interjected into most all the threads and posts here. That is, that very few prospects, even highly rated ones, make it to the big leagues much less turn into stars.


As further evidence, take a look at any baseball-reference.com's list of, say, second or third round draft picks from around a decade ago - long enough ago to be pretty sure who's ever going to make it to the majors. Even the bottom half of the first round is sobering to look at in retrospect. Pretty slim pickings most years - lots of cups of coffee, a few solid role-players, not lots of cumulative WAR.