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#21 ashburyjohn

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Posted 16 November 2012 - 06:45 PM

> If it was up to me, I would start him in Cedar Rapids and play it by ear from there.

Get ready for more Cedar Rapids Kernels puns this upcoming season!

#22 mnfanforlife

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Posted 20 November 2012 - 10:17 AM

> If it was up to me, I would start him in Cedar Rapids and play it by ear from there.

Get ready for more Cedar Rapids Kernels puns this upcoming season!


HAHA! Corny..

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Posted 20 November 2012 - 04:30 PM

> If it was up to me, I would start him in Cedar Rapids and play it by ear from there.

Get ready for more Cedar Rapids Kernels puns this upcoming season!


The puns will be knee-high by July.

#24 mnfanforlife

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Posted 21 November 2012 - 09:41 AM

Oh, for what it's worth, Jason Parks of Baseball Prospectus says he pitches with serious #rig.


Could you clarify what you're talking about here? (#rig)

Edited by mnfanforlife, 23 November 2012 - 09:55 AM.


#25 mnfanforlife

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Posted 23 November 2012 - 10:01 AM

If he is in the Majors in 2014, he'll be 21 years old. I am excited about what he did last year too, but I think that is pushing it a lot. If he is in AA by 2014, I'll be more than happy with that.

I'd be very surprised if he made it to Ft. Myers in 2013. There just isn't a reason to push him that quickly. The only way it happens is if he is so completely dominant that they can't hold him back any longer.


Dont you think that our need at Starting Pitcher would be a good reason to fast track Berrios in 2013?

#26 kab21

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Posted 23 November 2012 - 07:17 PM

Need should not dictate lower level promotions. He should be promoted when he is ready.

#27 mnfanforlife

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Posted 24 November 2012 - 05:42 PM

Need should not dictate lower level promotions. He should be promoted when he is ready.


Are you suggesting that he is not ready to be promoted past rookie ball? What level do you think Berrios is "ready" for? What constitutes being "ready" in your opinion? If you use statistics to measure "readiness", than where would Berrios' stats place him next year, in your opinion?

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Posted 24 November 2012 - 06:51 PM

I would start him in Ft. Myers and if he excels promote him to New Britian.

#29 PseudoSABR

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Posted 24 November 2012 - 07:25 PM

No reason to hurry this guy. New Britain next year seems like a total reach.

#30 Brad Swanson

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Posted 24 November 2012 - 10:35 PM

No reason to hurry this guy. New Britain next year seems like a total reach.


With you, in fact, New Britain in two seasons is a reach. Player development not player acceleration. What's the rush?

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Posted 24 November 2012 - 11:16 PM

He should start in Cedar Rapids. If he earns it, he will be promoted to Ft. Myers mid-season. That gives him a shot at New Britain sometime the following season. We'll be lucky if he gets a cup of coffee at Target Field by 2015.

#32 Mike Sixel

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Posted 25 November 2012 - 01:41 PM

Right, he's 3-4 years out, minimum. Agreed.

I don't know, it is a site to discuss sports, not airline safety.....maybe we should take it less seriously?


#33 Shane Wahl

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Posted 25 November 2012 - 02:17 PM

[quote name='Madre Dos'][quote name='mnfanforlife'][quote name='Madre Dos']Jose stayed in my home while in Elizabethton. He is polite and easy to get along with. He doesn't eat shrimp and he really likes cookie and cream ice cream. (two very important things for a host mom to know!) Good luck Jose!! You will go far.[/QUOTE]

Cool inside information about our best pitching prospect! Thank you for sharing! Do you know if Jose is coming back to live with you next summer?[/QUOTE]

I don't know. I'm going to spring training in March ( i still have about 30 "baseball sons" in the organization). I try to get all of them out to dinner. We have to work around English lessons! I usually have a list of 13 or so that want to stay here if they come to Elizabethton. I find out about 4 or 5 days before they get on the bus in fort myers who is going to be here.[/QUOTE]

There really ought to a story written about you and the other host families for these guys.

#34 ThePuck

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Posted 25 November 2012 - 02:20 PM

why are so many fans completely content to say a pitcher drafted as high as Berrios was will take 4 or more years in the minors to make it to the show? If he's as awesome as so many claim, why take that long?

#35 PseudoSABR

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Posted 25 November 2012 - 03:19 PM

If he's as awesome as so many claim, why take that long?

The potential for awesomeness doesn't equate to immediate awesomeness.

#36 kab21

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Posted 25 November 2012 - 06:57 PM

Need should not dictate lower level promotions. He should be promoted when he is ready.


Are you suggesting that he is not ready to be promoted past rookie ball? What level do you think Berrios is "ready" for? What constitutes being "ready" in your opinion? If you use statistics to measure "readiness", than where would Berrios' stats place him next year, in your opinion?


He's absolutely ready for Cedar Rapids. I'm disagreeing with the general notion that he needs to be fast tracked because the Twins have a need at pitcher. Many in this thread are suggesting that he should get to Ft Myers next season and start 2014 in NB. Perhaps that could happen but let's see what he does in full season ball before we start promoting him beyond Cedar Rapids.

#37 mnfanforlife

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Posted 25 November 2012 - 08:15 PM

why are so many fans completely content to say a pitcher drafted as high as Berrios was will take 4 or more years in the minors to make it to the show? If he's as awesome as so many claim, why take that long?


Realistically: he should start 2013 in low-A, finish 2013 in A+, then start 2014 in A+ with a shot to finish in AA or higher.

#38 jtrinaldi

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Posted 25 November 2012 - 08:51 PM

Berrios will be in CR around May
Buxton in June
Kepler/Goodrum to start
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Posted 25 November 2012 - 09:10 PM

The Twins are considering Kyle Gibson for their Opening Day rotation.

Gibson is almost fully recovered from Tommy John surgery and finished with 75 innings between the regular season and Arizona Fall League. With only Scott Diamond returning to next year's rotation, there's little upside for the Twins to stash him if he's still healthy in spring training. Earlier this offseason, GM Terry Ryan said he expects Gibson to be limited to 140 innings in 2013.


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#40 Mike Sixel

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Posted 26 November 2012 - 08:50 AM

I will not speak for others, but I am posting what I think is likely to happen, not what I would do.