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#21 DaveW

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Posted 09 November 2012 - 06:21 PM

[quote name='Kwak'][quote name='SpiritofVodkaDave'][quote name='Kwak']Trevor Plouffe. My guess--he never duplicates that 6 week streak of (bases empty!) HRs ever again. Goodness knows he isn't "all-that" in the field either. A potentially future, dominant pitcher looks better to me than Plouffe.[/QUOTE]

What about Trevor Plouffe? Are you implying trading him for Bauer straight up???[/QUOTE]

Yes.[/QUOTE]

wow.....

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Posted 09 November 2012 - 06:23 PM

Yeah, Bauer commands Sano+. No? Then Arizona will take Bauer and easily trade him to a team with good hitting prospects. The Red Sox would easily part with Bogaerts to get Bauer. Cleveland would give up Lindor and anything else Arizona wants. Bauer has the value of a young Curt Schilling, circa 1993. We could get him, but Sano and Rosario would be the return. What they should do is see if Texas will give them Andrus and one of their good prospects like Rogned (sp). Their middle infield could be set for years.

All of those are probably true.

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Posted 09 November 2012 - 08:26 PM

I think the posts here have hit it pretty much on the head. There is no denying that the kid has talent and is major league ready today. If half of the stories floating around about him are true, I wouldn't trade much value for him.

The Twins track record with head cases speaks for itself. They either decide not to work with them (Ortiz, Lohse) or give them to much rope (Delmon). Part of the Twins way is conformity. This guy does not fit that bill. I can't see them making a move here (as much as he could help them).

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Posted 09 November 2012 - 10:12 PM

Arizona could be interested in Span, correct? Gerado Parra isn't much of a player so I think that would be someplace we could move Denard. Arizona is my favorite NL team and if Span had to go anywhere I'd chose there. He could play alongside Kubes!

This enough, too much, or too little?
Span, Rosario, Harrison, Herrmann

I'm really resilient on trading Hicks, but I LOVE Bauer's upside. If the prior wasn't enough, maybe this?

Hicks, Rosario, Harrison, Herrmann

I'd really like some input and thoughts please.

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Posted 09 November 2012 - 10:49 PM

Arizona could be interested in Span, correct? Gerado Parra isn't much of a player so I think that would be someplace we could move Denard..


Um, Parra and Span are pretty similar stat-wise. The only difference is that Parra has primarily played the corner outfield, whereas Span has been a center fielder. Arizona won't take Span.

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Posted 09 November 2012 - 10:55 PM

Diamondbacks president Derrick Hall told reporters Bauer admitted he made mistakes and has even reached out to some veteran teammates, including closer J.J. Putz. And though there had been some whispers the D-Backs might trade Bauer this offseason, Hall told the reporters that this wouldn't be happening.

This quote is from Friday.

We were maybe just getting our hopes up.

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Posted 09 November 2012 - 11:04 PM

Diamondbacks president Derrick Hall told reporters Bauer admitted he made mistakes and has even reached out to some veteran teammates, including closer J.J. Putz. And though there had been some whispers the D-Backs might trade Bauer this offseason, Hall told the reporters that this wouldn't be happening.

This quote is from Friday.

We were maybe just getting our hopes up.


I am sorry you had to be the Harbinger of this bad news. Maybe now we can move on to how Stephen Strasburg is pissed off at the Nats for shutting him down in early September and how we can trade Denard Span for him... the Nats are always seemingly in the market for a Center fielder ya know!

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Posted 10 November 2012 - 01:18 AM

The DBacks and the Twins simply do not match up with needs/wants. The Twins do match up very well with TB/ATL/SEA/CIN though and I think we'll see a deal (or two?) happen this offseason.

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Posted 10 November 2012 - 11:16 AM

Um, Parra and Span are pretty similar stat-wise. The only difference is that Parra has primarily played the corner outfield, whereas Span has been a center fielder. Arizona won't take Span.

Span has a career OPS+ of 104, Parra has 93.

Also his WAR was 3.2 higher last year then Parra's and has been quite a bit higher over the course of their careers Span (16.5 vs 4.8)

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Posted 10 November 2012 - 02:29 PM

[quote name='Kwak'][quote name='SpiritofVodkaDave'][quote name='Kwak']Trevor Plouffe. My guess--he never duplicates that 6 week streak of (bases empty!) HRs ever again. Goodness knows he isn't "all-that" in the field either. A potentially future, dominant pitcher looks better to me than Plouffe.[/QUOTE]

What about Trevor Plouffe? Are you implying trading him for Bauer straight up???[/QUOTE]

Yes.[/QUOTE]

10 Trevor Plouffe's couldn't bring back Bauer.

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Posted 10 November 2012 - 02:54 PM

[quote name='SpiritofVodkaDave'][quote name='Kwak'][quote name='SpiritofVodkaDave'][quote name='Kwak']Trevor Plouffe. My guess--he never duplicates that 6 week streak of (bases empty!) HRs ever again. Goodness knows he isn't "all-that" in the field either. A potentially future, dominant pitcher looks better to me than Plouffe.[/QUOTE]

What about Trevor Plouffe? Are you implying trading him for Bauer straight up???[/QUOTE]

Yes.[/QUOTE]

wow.....[/QUOTE]

Back to the idea that our trash is another team's treasure! Brilliant!!

#32 edavis0308

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Posted 10 November 2012 - 02:55 PM

We are a year or so too late or we could have packaged Valencia and Slowey with Plouffe to get the deal done.

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Posted 10 November 2012 - 03:30 PM

[quote name='edavis0308'][quote name='SpiritofVodkaDave'][quote name='Kwak'][quote name='SpiritofVodkaDave'][quote name='Kwak']Trevor Plouffe. My guess--he never duplicates that 6 week streak of (bases empty!) HRs ever again. Goodness knows he isn't "all-that" in the field either. A potentially future, dominant pitcher looks better to me than Plouffe.[/QUOTE]

What about Trevor Plouffe? Are you implying trading him for Bauer straight up???[/QUOTE]

Yes.[/QUOTE]

wow.....[/QUOTE]

Back to the idea that our trash is another team's treasure! Brilliant!![/QUOTE]

I don't think Plouffe alone is enough to get Bauer. We'd probably have to throw in blackburn (solidify their 5th starter). And probably Carrol too.

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Posted 10 November 2012 - 07:54 PM

[quote name='SpiritofVodkaDave'][quote name='Kwak'][quote name='SpiritofVodkaDave'][quote name='Kwak']Trevor Plouffe. My guess--he never duplicates that 6 week streak of (bases empty!) HRs ever again. Goodness knows he isn't "all-that" in the field either. A potentially future, dominant pitcher looks better to me than Plouffe.[/QUOTE]

What about Trevor Plouffe? Are you implying trading him for Bauer straight up???[/Q

Yes.[/QUOTE]

wow.....[/QUOTE]

The original article has a premise of "no OFers" because AZ has plenty of them, requires a package that doesn't contain an OF. To include Gibson is likely self-defeating--Twins require pitching--so trade something else. True, I am skeptical about Plouffe and consider him "tradeable", but many teams are seeking HR hitters at 3B, (and in AZ) I think Plouffe might be considered more than useful. Plouffe is at the ML level (now) and as such is more valuable than most "prospects" the Twins can offer. I infer most other poster are also skeptical about Plouffe. Most teams are forced to compromise at 3B simply because there aren't enough of them that hit and field the position at the desired level and Plouffe may be someone that AZ places value. Could the Twins add to this offer?--Yes.

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Posted 11 November 2012 - 08:33 PM

The original article has a premise of "no OFers" because AZ has plenty of them, requires a package that doesn't contain an OF. To include Gibson is likely self-defeating--Twins require pitching--so trade something else. True, I am skeptical about Plouffe and consider him "tradeable", but many teams are seeking HR hitters at 3B, (and in AZ) I think Plouffe might be considered more than useful. Plouffe is at the ML level (now) and as such is more valuable than most "prospects" the Twins can offer. I infer most other poster are also skeptical about Plouffe. Most teams are forced to compromise at 3B simply because there aren't enough of them that hit and field the position at the desired level and Plouffe may be someone that AZ places value. Could the Twins add to this offer?--Yes.


You obviously misread the topic. This was about trading for Trevor Bauer and not Josh Collmenter. If teams are going to compromise then they offer a compromise back instead of a top ten prospect.

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Posted 12 November 2012 - 02:53 AM

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